Need help, i want to hit 1k progression this season!

morph3us

mikepro wrote:

ok heres my issue with getting 1K points. i can avg about 750 peak but inish around 500-600 depending on end time. i dont have te greatest roster but they include a lvl 114 a 94 and what ever is boosted for that event. i have a few that need powers to lvl up like those guys are all over 75 but unless they are boosted i dont use them ofetn.

i do a quick 300-400 at the start then try and push to the 500 mark during day 2 then the final push after that to get the 750 mark. i want to hit the 800 right now but the 1K would be great with my roster

Sorry to say, but you're very unlikely to clear 1K with that roster at the moment. Once you clear 700-800, your MMR isn't going to protect you by matching you up with similar rosters to yours; you'll be exposed to everyone around that level. With underlevelled characters like that, you'll be first pick as a target for everyone looking for points. 800 is a good target for you at present, I think (and is probably going to be difficult still). You need to get your characters up to 140-166 before you can really start having a run at 1K.

Malcrof

Ok, roster is in my sig. KK is now level 166, who should i bring up next? Was thinking Daken, Cage, or Doom.. which do you think will be most helpful in my quest for 1k?

Sickboy254698

Great googly moogly!

I couldn't make it half way down the first page. You guys are really over complicating this. You need two things to get to 1000+ very easily.

1. Two level 166 three star heroes that cover at least 4 colors. Obviously more is better but 4 is OK.

2. You need the events boosted hero to be at least level 100 (I'm not sure if its 105 but it's close to that). That way they are boosted to 166 and you dont look like an easy mark.

That's it. 4 star cover here you come. How I do it if I don't have the events hero is below. Adjust accordingly if you have the boosted hero. Also I'm a dirty pay player so if you're a dirty free player you will have to wait longer to start and less time between pushes. That's what she said.

If you don't have the events hero or yours is low level you can still hit 1000. Wait until there are about 36 hours or so left in the tournament Just make sure you make a small run up to 300 or so then wait a few hours. You will probably get attacked but losses will be minimal so dont worry. Your next jump should be around the 24 hour mark to make it easier on you. Try to hit at least 750. 800 is better. Skip, skip, skip. You should be able to get to 600+ and still find opponents worth 50 or more points. Shield for 8 hours.

With less then 15 hours to go you once again should be able to find opponents worth 50+. What you do now determines whether or not you hit 1000 without losing any points. I go for two or three attacks here. If you've been getting pooped on with your shield up only go for two. If not then three. Then shield for 3 hours and go for 2 more. You should be at 1000 by now. If not you will have to waste HP on the 24 hr shield which sucks.

My method assumes that you, like myself, despise losing. You loathe the thought of having to make another attack to get back the points you just lost to that prick with a maxed Professor X and Hulkbuster. If you dont mind losing some points you can shield less and start early. Your choice.

Malcrof

Appreciate the input.. so based on your response, that would put Daken as my next 166, then all colors covered except red, and with so many red users, there is a chance that one is the essential, so that covers that.

TxMoose

I've found that any more than one match per hop is a risk, especially if you're over 800-850. of course I'm just now getting close to my second 166, so maybe that helps. that basically means more hops - I employ the 8/3/8/3... to the end strategy but I've only made it a few times. I tend to chicken out when my first hit comes in at 775-800 or so, I usually throw a shield up. I haven't tried to push more because I figure I'm visible to everyone now and will be targeted. am I wrong there? I'm wondering if I should push through the first hit?

during the sentry event last season I had multiple hops where I did not finish a single match before getting hit. and those weren't long and drawn out (but not timed either). had another match in the grocket event where a boosted grocket healed twice on me that took forever and I just knew I would be hit for a ton but nothing came in until I finished and shielded - then 3 quick hits came, but I made it. you just never know.

morph3us

Malcrof wrote:

Appreciate the input.. so based on your response, that would put Daken as my next 166, then all colors covered except red, and with so many red users, there is a chance that one is the essential, so that covers that.

I'm going to disagree with Daken as a choice. The value of having a rainbow team is that it doesn't matter whom you're facing; regardless of what colour you're defending on, you'll have an outlet for the AP.

Daken only has one active in blue, which means that you won't be able to use the black that you're collecting. Black's a really strong colour in the current meta at the moment, so it'd be better if you could use that AP, if you're having to deny it to IMHB, Cyclops, XFW, IF etc. In addition, Daken has suffered, in my estimation, from the recent health shifts. He used to have a lot of value in sustained pushes, but his health is way too low, even maxed at 166 to be considered a serious threat in PvP. A lot of my PvP teams will one shot him, or close to it. He still shines if you pair him with Blade and Falcon in PvE, though.

So, if you're pursuing the 2x 166 strategy, I'd choose Cage instead. That gives you coverage with an active purple, green, yellow, and black. Cage's protect tile will allow you to push further in PvP before needing to break for health packs. In addition, his single target damage is great, which is a critical factor in PvP, particularly in matches where you're facing a loaner + 2. It does leave you weak on blue, but blue's not so common as an attacking colour at present anyway (4* Thor and Fury are the main characters that you'd worry about there).

lukewin

I'd say it's more about lining up the targets than anything. You've got 140s, so do I. There's a difference between hitting 1k and finishing the PVP with 1k. I could've hit 1k with 1 3 hr this PVP. I will finish with over 1k, because I am using 1 3 hr and 2 8 hrs.

140s get buffed to 200, as you probably know, and the feature gets up to 245. I climbed early, to over 725 to get the reward. Did not shield. Got knocked down to 495. Climbed from there later. Was able to get over 900 and shielded at 955. Got up to 988 off defensive wins, using Hood and Fury (reg 160 5/5/3, buffed to 199). Lined up a target would be worth the pts and hit them.

I think it's about timing, using boosted characters, and lining up the right targets. If you're playing during off hours or not when it's lined up when people normally shield-hop, which is 3 hrs out, 8 hrs, 11 hrs, etc, you might see less attacks. You can check your leaderboards to line up targets. Queue them when they're unshielded, hit them when they're shielded, so you know that their point value won't drop.

Pongie

With the new rewards in the shield simulator, does climbing to 2k there follow the same strategy (only over the month)? Or is there a completely different approach to climbing?

Unknown

Pongie wrote:

With the new rewards in the shield simulator, does climbing to 2k there follow the same strategy (only over the month)? Or is there a completely different approach to climbing?

Just my 2 cents, but I feel like the Simulator also requires a lot of shields. I barely got the Loki cover before I got hit with 100 pt losses. It's a lot of 2 steps forward 1 step back kind of play. I usually try to leave sim last as I want to prioritize DDQ, PVP, and PVE. At night I try to fight to my last character and use whatever health packs I have left (if any).

Pongie

I managed to climb to 1400 in one sitting before receiving my first attack. So far I've only dropped to 1300, I think I'm going to wait till the ranking drop lower (to get more 60-70 points targets) before trying to reach 2k.

drcassino

Pongie wrote:

With the new rewards in the shield simulator, does climbing to 2k there follow the same strategy (only over the month)? Or is there a completely different approach to climbing?

Thanks to the new 2K reward in the Simulator, the competition at the end of the Season is going to be much worse than usual. Right now, it's early enough to be pretty quiet, so if you want that Prof X, you need to get on it as soon as you can: if you try and wait until anywhere near the end of the Season, you'll be beaten back really hard. Burn through your 10 health packs once or twice to climb, then don't worry about the inevitable beat-down afterwards.
Also, don't worry about shielding in the Sim: unless you're at 1900 with no health packs left, just let it slide, get the retails, and make your climb later.

meekersX

I've been trying to see how high I can push without shields with my roster. I can pass 800 easily, and touch 900 with some luck. It seems like I would probably need to shield at least twice in order to earn the 1k progression consistently. I've not yet succeeded though.

However, I'd like to take a step back and ask when one should begin spending time and hp on earning the 1k progression. I have all 3 and 4 rostered, but I'm still working towards rostering all 2 . I have 6 maxed 3 currently: Black Widow, Daken, Doctor Doom, The Hood, Thor, and Wolverine.

I'm fairly certain I could have reached 1k in First Avenger, but I didn't manage shields properly nor start my final push early enough. Kinda bugs me I didn't even make 900 for the Independence Vault Recruit Token as well. Fortunately the 1k reward was , and I don't see me spending Iso-8 on her.

I'm considering trying for 1k in Top Gun since the reward is Hulkbuster. My Falcon is 120 3/5/5. Any suggestions for a pushing team? I'm thinking Wolvering 166 3/5/5 and Storm 130 5/3/5. Is that team going to be quick enough to win 2-3 matches when hopping?

Malcrof

Ok, have now taken KK, Cage, Daken, and Doom to 166 (feel like a big boy now with my first 4 166's!). PVP this weekend was brutal, did not hit 1k in Cap, got to 820, then when i went to make my hop, got slaughtered, finished mid 700s, enough for a cover i didn't need and recouped the Hp from my shield.

BUT.. tried out my new 166's in shield sim KK, Cage, Daken (when there was a 270 4* involved, i brought doom for purple)

and this happened!

One of the first 10 people ever in my bracket to hit the new 2k reward! Hooray for PX Blue, i really needed that cover.

Thank you for all the help with who to level etc. i am getting better and better.. wish i could thumbs up everyone!!



i decided since i had hit my 4k 10 pack and now the 2k in shield sim, to remain unshielded in the simulator, overnight i lost 300+ points.. which i am very ok with.. the sim is now just an iso farm, which i need to get 3Thor to 166.

drcassino

meekersX wrote:

I've been trying to see how high I can push without shields with my roster. I can pass 800 easily, and touch 900 with some luck. It seems like I would probably need to shield at least twice in order to earn the 1k progression consistently. I've not yet succeeded though.

However, I'd like to take a step back and ask when one should begin spending time and hp on earning the 1k progression. I have all 3 and 4 rostered, but I'm still working towards rostering all 2 . I have 6 maxed 3 currently: Black Widow, Daken, Doctor Doom, The Hood, Thor, and Wolverine.

I'm fairly certain I could have reached 1k in First Avenger, but I didn't manage shields properly nor start my final push early enough. Kinda bugs me I didn't even make 900 for the Independence Vault Recruit Token as well. Fortunately the 1k reward was , and I don't see me spending Iso-8 on her.

I'm considering trying for 1k in Top Gun since the reward is Hulkbuster. My Falcon is 120 3/5/5. Any suggestions for a pushing team? I'm thinking Wolvering 166 3/5/5 and Storm 130 5/3/5. Is that team going to be quick enough to win 2-3 matches when hopping?

If you can field a good *** team, don't bother trying to roster all of the ** characters: if you have enough to make it through DDQ every day, you're fine. Save the HP for the new characters that are always coming down the pike. Though ** get boosted in PVP, they're still easy prey for any maxed *** team, so the only use you'll get out of them will be in PVE. I know it's tempting to have all of the ** so that you have whoever is required for that PVE, but since we generally have 3-7 days notice as to who the next required ** will be, you'll have plenty of time to get a couple covers of whoever it is before the PVE.
You might be able to make a run at the Falcon PVP, with some shielding: I'd guess your best bet would be Doom/Patch: concentrate on putting out some Demons, boost them all to hell, and 'Zerk all over the opponent once you've built up a bunch of purple traps: Patch won't overwrite Dooms traps, so you can (theoretically) make it such that the opponent doesn't get any of the tiles. That'll boost the demons even more, and you can sit back.
You'll still take a lot of hits - make sure to have some Doc Ock or SG team ups ready to deal with boosted Hailstorms - but if you're willing to spend the HP on a 8/3/8/3 shield pattern, and don't get greedy (1-2 fights per jump, period), you can make it. Good luck!

drcassino

Malcrof wrote:

Ok, have now taken KK, Cage, Daken, and Doom to 166 (feel like a big boy now with my first 4 166's!). PVP this weekend was brutal, did not hit 1k in Cap, got to 820, then when i went to make my hop, got slaughtered, finished mid 700s, enough for a cover i didn't need and recouped the Hp from my shield.

BUT.. tried out my new 166's in shield sim KK, Cage, Daken (when there was a 270 4* involved, i brought doom for purple)

and this happened!

One of the first 10 people ever in my bracket to hit the new 2k reward! Hooray for PX Blue, i really needed that cover.

Thank you for all the help with who to level etc. i am getting better and better.. wish i could thumbs up everyone!!



i decided since i had hit my 4k 10 pack and now the 2k in shield sim, to remain unshielded in the simulator, overnight i lost 300+ points.. which i am very ok with.. the sim is now just an iso farm, which i need to get 3Thor to 166.

Congrats, Malcrof. Glad you made it - and you made the right call unshielding in the simulator: there's no sense in staying shielded for the next two weeks! I'd guess that a lot of the folks in your bracket made it to 2K, then let themselves get knocked down (I'm sitting at 1400 or so, aftermaking 2K late last week). KK, Cage, Daken isn't a bad climbing team - good defense, annoying enough to not be worth the fight unless you're worth a lot of points. Don't rely on Daken too much, though - since everyone else's health got buffed, he's an easy target for a nuke.

Pongie

Been trying to hit 2k as well but my roster is only lvl 120. So far I only managed to get to 1800 before I run out of health packs. By the time my health pack refreshes, I'm back down to 1400-1500. It's been a yoyo the last few days and I don't think I'll get there with my current roster.

Ram51

Malcrof wrote:

Ok, have now taken KK, Cage, Daken, and Doom to 166 (feel like a big boy now with my first 4 166's!). PVP this weekend was brutal, did not hit 1k in Cap, got to 820, then when i went to make my hop, got slaughtered, finished mid 700s, enough for a cover i didn't need and recouped the Hp from my shield.

BUT.. tried out my new 166's in shield sim KK, Cage, Daken (when there was a 270 4* involved, i brought doom for purple)
.

Malcrof, between Daken and Doom who would you say is better for getting to 2k pts in Shield Simulator or for PVP in general? Strangely enough nobody in my alliance ever use Doom in PVP (nobody's even maxed him!) but I have this nagging feeling he can be better than Daken in PVP.

Malcrof

Ram51 wrote:

Malcrof wrote:

Ok, have now taken KK, Cage, Daken, and Doom to 166 (feel like a big boy now with my first 4 166's!). PVP this weekend was brutal, did not hit 1k in Cap, got to 820, then when i went to make my hop, got slaughtered, finished mid 700s, enough for a cover i didn't need and recouped the Hp from my shield.

BUT.. tried out my new 166's in shield sim KK, Cage, Daken (when there was a 270 4* involved, i brought doom for purple)
.

Malcrof, between Daken and Doom who would you say is better for getting to 2k pts in Shield Simulator or for PVP in general? Strangely enough nobody in my alliance ever use Doom in PVP (nobody's even maxed him!) but I have this nagging feeling he can be better than Daken in PVP.

Doom is amazing in PVP, and even more-so when boosted. 5 @ 166 can 1 shot any 3* and some 4*'s if you time it well, his black can be a real annoyance and get you some skips, unless they see you are using cage (AI always uses his black first.. been up against them many times now).

Mine is 5/3/5, his blue is meh, even at 5 covers its use is conditional to the board, which is why i went 5/3/5.

but Doom can help you climb fast and has loads of HP

meekersX

I still don't understand how to hit 1k progression. Whenever I try to go past 800-850 points I get hit for attacks for more points than I can earn in the same amount of time. The particularly frustrating thing is getting hit by people 200+ points below me for a ton of points even though they have significantly more developed rosters.

The only thing I can think of is to try to push at less popular times. Trying to push with 4-5 hours left in an event appears to be too popular still with the plan to use the 3h shield after. However, trying to push at 9-10 hours left and there just doesn't seem to be a reasonable amount of points available. I seem to hover at ~600 unshielded, so I need a shield to remain higher, but it takes me more than 10 health packs to get to 1000 from there.

I feel pretty stuck.

spectator

If you're pushing during a quiet time, anything above 30 points is worth hitting. As long as you're shielded up, those high point loss retaliation wont matter much. I would suggest pushing up to a few days out depending on whether placement matters and how much hp the 1k progression is worth to you. Remember that each hop should net you 40+ points and if you're lucky, 70+ and you don't have to shield up on the last hop if you don't need the placement covers