Colossus is bad?How many times did he save you this PVP/PVE?

Unknown

Black Panther is simply much better than Colossus even without a level boost, though Black Panther is probably a bit too good in general. I used the red quite a few times but there's no reason to use Immovable Object (or most yellow powers) over Battleplan and same applies to black. Without ROTP I think Fastball Special is borderline playable. Sure it's never a top tier black power but something like a level boosted Nick Fury + Colossus + Iron Fist is quite playable, as you're instead accelerating into a random Nick Fury move instead of your black and a random move from Nick Fury is usually better than most blacks except ROTP.

Buret0

I used him with my 220 SW and 150 2* Storm.

SW tanked blue, green, and purple, generating blue tiles that I could grab to launch Storms attacks.
Hexbolt was used to grab more blue and purple.
By the time I was launching a reality storm, I was generally ready to throw a fastball, which often led to another reality storm.

While SW was flying through the air, I would continue to tank for Storm by dropping the colossus yellow, generally able to grab red.

If they weren't dead by the time SW landed and (hopefully) launched another reality storm (and not a hexbolt), Colossus would hit them from the front with his red.

Luke Cage may be better for general damage reduction from matches, but his little protect token doesn't do a thing against actual AP using attacks.

MarvelMan

I think he only "saved" me once or twice.....when a cascade/special knocked out one or both of my other chars. I used FBS once....the entire PVP. I think I accumulated enough red a few times. It was pretty much the BP/IF show with XF thrown out a couple times, and that is with a ~100 Colossus boosted to 180. So yeah, unboosted he is kinda bad.

Jasonzakibe

If Colossus tanked all AOE damage, he'd be great.

I also think no true healing hurts him, because once he does his thing he's got to sit out for a while or eat health packs.

grunth13

I feel that Colossus isn't bad, but he isn't great, but I rarely use him outside of when forced to. BUT, when you are required and boosted to 198 and your next best guy is 144, you are naturally going to be good. I remember when doc ok and beast came out and were boosted through the roof, and I thought, "man I really need this character". Then I started playing with a normal version and I figured out how bad they really are. My Colossus is max covered so he does what I need him to do, but only when he is boosted. Also, I like using him with patch and loki so that he tanks black, red, yellow for them.

Malcrof

His fastball special is the ability that makes him the most useful, sure it takes someone out for a couple of turns, but being able to get a free Sniper Rifle or CoTs... can't beat that

MarvelMan

Malcrof wrote:

His fastball special is the ability that makes him the most useful, sure it takes someone out for a couple of turns, but being able to get a free Sniper Rifle or CoTs... can't beat that

Unless youre going RotP or SS with that black.....

sinnerjfl

Fastball special could be changed to another color... Especially considering the many great black powers that came after Colossus' release. Maybe purple, or blue.

Wonko33

i wanted to love Colossus (because of the comics) and i don't think he's awful either but I struggle to find a fun team for him and like many said his color combo is out-shined by Cage- maybe if his yellow was purple or something IDK

Unknown

I really like Colossus. But mine is only 4/1/2, and not even in the century club yet, while my panther is at 153, boosted to 220, 5/3/4. I would love to make use of him, but I need covers first. Then I can get him into a trio where he's effective.

Definitely agree with the notion that fastball special is unique and fun. But it doesn't compare to the practicality of firing Panther's yellow and black in succession for 4100+ AOE.

Taganov

Boosted he was fun, but I can't recall him saving me. I used him more because with the boost I figured "why not?" Overall, I came away with the feeling that I liked all his abilities, they're just badly priced. Especially black; that's just silliness. I'd say:

I'm actually fine with 11
should under no circumstances be more than 11
5

Then I'd be more inclined to bring him out before Cage dies.

Unknown

Not loving Colossus MPQ design to be honest he's ...s l o w... I think his abilities cost too much & he's usually still getting his shoes on by the time everyone else is knee deep in aggro. Quick fix would be to simply lower ability costs.

Hayek

I saw an interesting combination that gave me surprisingly a lot of trouble: . The obvious one to go first usually is KK, but you can't hit her with big powers because DP jumps in front. So I decided to focus DP with my match damage only to have colossus drop his cd tile somewhere I couldn't match it and jump in front. Meanwhile the AI starts getting some skills off and both DP and Colossus heal up to full. I think if DP/KK were buffed this week, this would have been a very deadly team. Conversely, when KK or DP pvp comes around, if the other two in this combination are buffed, that's the team I'm going to try.

thedarkphoenix

If he had a different color set he'd be good, if his yellow was purple and black was green he'd be super good.

Buret0

thedarkphoenix wrote:

If he had a different color set he'd be good, if his yellow was purple and black was green he'd be super good.

I don't really get that.

I mean, there are a lot of yellow passives out there, so much so that I'm always a bit surprised when a yellow active fires.

Meanwhile, I have a lot of active purple users, so I'd hate to have him in there competing for use of the Purple AP.

Are you just thinking of how you would plug a hole in your specific two man team combination, or do you actually think that globally that there aren't good combinations to use him with on these colours?

Various38

I know a lot of you don't really like Colossus, but with no BP in usable form then he is the way to go. I like his combination with MNMags and Hood. Hood stealing the whole time, and MNMags creating red. A better match in that combo would be SW, but I don't have her covered well at all. The main team I had for the essentials was Featured Character, Blade, and CMags. In the Colossus node, I had CMags taking the yellow to create protect tiles, Blade took black to steal AP and Colossus hit them with the punch.

Dauthi

simonsez wrote:

Dauthi wrote:

As the title states, while may think he is a "bad" character, how many times did he protect your damage dealers from major single target damage dealing abilities?

Honest answer, never. Unless you don't have a BP, you're winning these matches by getting battleplan out ASAP, not by prolonging the match. I've used his yellow exactly once. I was about 3 moves away from winning via match damage, so I figured I might as well mitigate the match damage I'd be taking on those 3 moves.

Ah, my team was XForce and Iron Fist for quick wins. If things went awry and I had to eat a Surgical Strike, Repulsor Punch etc I would be fine while Colossus stood out in front. I guess it's all about team composition.

morph3us wrote:

I don't think he's bad. I do think he's been obsoleted by Luke Cage, unfortunately, though. Same colour combination, with better team damage reduction all around (for free, to boot).

I don't agree that Cage replaces Colossus, Cage's red is nothing like Colossus' yellow. Cage protects vs match damage while Colossus protects against ability damage. When Cyclops for example gets red/black I know I am going to get wrecked even with cage on my team. If I have yellow held for colossus though, I feel very safe as he jumps out and eats that damage like a champ.

I'm surprised nobody is speaking up for him in PVE, juggernaut/Ares nodes are Colossus' cup o tea.

Buret0

Various38 wrote:

I know a lot of you don't really like Colossus, but with no BP in usable form then he is the way to go. I like his combination with MNMags and Hood. Hood stealing the whole time, and MNMags creating red. A better match in that combo would be SW, but I don't have her covered well at all. The main team I had for the essentials was Featured Character, Blade, and CMags. In the Colossus node, I had CMags taking the yellow to create protect tiles, Blade took black to steal AP and Colossus hit them with the punch.

I had my level 120 Blade taking a seat for these matches. I don't like grabbing red when I'm trying to generate Thirst tiles.

I was lucky enough to have a well covered SW coming out of Ultron 1 and 2 and had a couple more SW covers get picked up in the events that followed.

Colossus' active Yellow, Red, Black worked very well with her Purple, Green, Blue (passive). Throw in that 150 2* Storm and you've got your full rainbow covered.

I do like using Blade with my Squirrel Girl. Neither is looking to match red, so you have the choice of SG's Nuts from Above attack or Blade's Keep the Enemy Closer Purple. Blade's passive is on Green, which happens to be SGs nuke. Grabbing a bunch of Green will help protect your Furry Friend attack tiles and your Blade CD tile (which gets placed on Green for no apparent reason).

I just wouldn't pair them with Colossus, because he's after Black (Blade's), Red (Thirst tiles), and Yellow (SG's protect tiles).

Wonko33

Buret0 wrote:

thedarkphoenix wrote:

If he had a different color set he'd be good, if his yellow was purple and black was green he'd be super good.

I don't really get that.

I mean, there are a lot of yellow passives out there, so much so that I'm always a bit surprised when a yellow active fires.

Meanwhile, I have a lot of active purple users, so I'd hate to have him in there competing for use of the Purple AP.

Are you just thinking of how you would plug a hole in your specific two man team combination, or do you actually think that globally that there aren't good combinations to use him with on these colours?

maybe blue then?

Note: Thx OP for a cool Colossus thread, maybe the info is in the character forum but it is usually such a pain to go read through that one.

Pylgrim

Can't say that he saved me, but sometimes the opponent's annoyed me. However, I had lots of fun tossing people around. Having IF buffed to feed him black made it possible regularly.

I believe that judging by the power level set by later characters, his yellow and red should cost 1 AP less and his black, 2 less. It's really too bad that Demiurge rarely makes this kind of minute adjustments.