The Simulator (April 19-24)

simonsez

Phantron wrote:

Hulk, Punisher, and Prof X seems to be able to beat Iron Fist somewhat reliably.

Marty17

Finally overcame hard sim with somewhat unlikely team composiotion of Ever since hp are boosted, survived much longer than anticipated.

Unknown

tuscan panty raider wrote:

Loftus wrote:

Jesus christ the hard node with iron fist, ares and blade is tinykitty impossible. I think ive had one wipe in about 30-40 matches prior, now just had 3 wipes in a row on it. Iron fists constant damge plus blade drowning me in strike tiles and ares spamming onslaught the second he gets a whiff of a green match is completely destroying whatever i put in front of them. Doesnt help no matter how careful i am i'm getting cascaded like crazy. Got hit with back to back nightstalkers after they did one 3 match and ended up with about 40 ap. ugh.

I had my eye on some cap covers but doesnt look possible now. I know i should have done a few easier node runs first but the first wipe annoyed me so much i went straight back for revenge. God i hate fighting against iron fist.

A couple of things.

First, Iron Fist, as with Luke Cage, is in his current form, unbalanced / unfair / overpowered. Googling them together one sees things like this:



So it is in some manner no surprise given that they will likely make their debuts on the big or small screen soon. There is no excuse though to make 1 guy who shuts the match down with a protect tile, and another who stacks the deck with a strike tile automatically, out of the gate, without fail.

This brings me to my greater point about this simulator. I've not had a particularly bad time with it and I think it is because of my overall strategy for character development. I have a nucleus of 166 3 star people, but have focused on getting as many 3star characters to 100 or more as possible. This has payed huge dividends in things like pvp, and this simulator - since you almost always have the feature / essential character at a high level. I have a 166 hulk, I have a ( otherwise useless ) iron man at 110+, I have a mystique at 110+ - so in this case, these "essential" nodes have been much easier because I have a buffed essential character.

I otherwise have no use for mystique, but doing her masterstroke souped up with her disguise power is nasty, and easy to get to for a quick 4500 damage.

Getting back to my strategy of getting as many 100+ as I can.. another reason for this is that since d3 has exhibited a capricious habit of nerfing and buffing characters I don't want to get fooled AGAIN.

I'd love to throw all my iso at cage and fist, but at some point they'll have to be "balanced" and I don't want to spend time and money on them only to rule the roost for 3 months until they get ultimo nerfed.

Luke Cage isn't overpowered

Phantron wrote:

Hulk, Punisher, and Prof X seems to be able to beat Iron Fist somewhat reliably. Put Hulk in front so you get green on match 5 from the Anger triggered by Iron Fist, and if Blade puts down some strike tiles you can trigger Anger on match damage too and then it's just about spamming Judgment over and over again and hopefully getting a lot of extra Master Plans from the Angers.

It seems like the key to beating alot of ridiculous nodes is Hulk(at least the ones that don't outright one-shot you), which is sad because 2* players don't have and they lost Magstorm.

Unknown

raisinbman wrote:

It seems like the key to beating alot of ridiculous nodes is Hulk(at least the ones that don't outright one-shot you), which is sad because 2* players don't have and they lost Magstorm.

Hulk is good against Daken, Blade, Iron Fist, and high level goon + villian combination (goons have elevated match damage to trigger Anger). These characters do tend to form a significant portion of the 'impossible' PvE enemy configurations.

Unknown

Phantron wrote:

raisinbman wrote:

It seems like the key to beating alot of ridiculous nodes is Hulk(at least the ones that don't outright one-shot you), which is sad because 2* players don't have and they lost Magstorm.

Hulk is good against Daken, Blade, Iron Fist, and high level goon + villian combination (goons have elevated match damage to trigger Anger). These characters do tend to form a significant portion of the 'impossible' PvE enemy configurations.

question, when the hell is goon damage used anyway? When non-goons are downed? Whenever they're highest?

Unknown

My slice ends in ~18 hours. I currently have 0 points in the hard sub, and that's good for 81st place (and at least up to 76th; not sure where the cutoff is).

Arimis_Thorn

Currently plotting the destruction of all mankind because of the Squirrel Girl, Blade, Daken hard node. So many tiles generated. Hulk just dies before you even get half a chance to use him. I've tried Hulk Bombing twice. The second time I managed to get Blade and Daken down, though lost Hulk and Falcon (I think). And just when I finally was able to pull off a Berserker Rage, Nuts From Above.

The End.

It hurts my brain to think that in that matchup, I might have to target SG first. It just seems like suicide.

EDIT:

Also tried a Loki, DD, LThor team.

NOPE!! As soon as I had enough black to alter all of those strike tiles, Loki goes down.

Basically if you don't have an ABSURDLY favorable board right from the get go, quit out. Abandon all hope ye who enter. This way lies madness.

vinnygecko

Got to the node on hard. First move for the AI was a cascade into a match 5. Hello master plan and Speed Shot. 2nd Turn they get off Mjolnir's Might and my Iron Fist is already down before turn 3. I retreated in shame before the speed shots went off

TxMoose

Arimis Thorn wrote:

Currently plotting the destruction of all mankind because of the Squirrel Girl, Blade, Daken hard node. So many tiles generated. Hulk just dies before you even get half a chance to use him. I've tried Hulk Bombing twice. The second time I managed to get Blade and Daken down, though lost Hulk and Falcon (I think). And just when I finally was able to pull off a Berserker Rage, Nuts From Above.

The End.

It hurts my brain to think that in that matchup, I might have to target SG first. It just seems like suicide.

EDIT:

Also tried a Loki, DD, LThor team.

NOPE!! As soon as I had enough black to alter all of those strike tiles, Loki goes down.

Basically if you don't have an ABSURDLY favorable board right from the get go, quit out. Abandon all hope ye who enter. This way lies madness.

yep that one was either get loki enough black in time or wipe. there really should be more than one way to do a node.

TxMoose

vinnygecko wrote:

Got to the node on hard. First move for the AI was a cascade into a match 5. Hello master plan and Speed Shot. 2nd Turn they get off Mjolnir's Might and my Iron Fist is already down before turn 3. I retreated in shame before the speed shots went off

almost exactly my experience with first go at it except the cascade on move 2 made 2 match-5s so one was down after move 2 - retreated then. have skipped it since. still planning on giving another go after a while.

vinnygecko

TxMoose wrote:

vinnygecko wrote:

Got to the node on hard. First move for the AI was a cascade into a match 5. Hello master plan and Speed Shot. 2nd Turn they get off Mjolnir's Might and my Iron Fist is already down before turn 3. I retreated in shame before the speed shots went off

almost exactly my experience with first go at it except the cascade on move 2 made 2 match-5s so one was down after move 2 - retreated then. have skipped it since. still planning on giving another go after a while.

Hah, so I wasn't the only one

Brought Loki with me on my second try and things went much better. No match 5's thankfully and lots of match 4's. He's been my mvp for this event.

Unknown

I ended up using the same anti-Iron Fist team against Squirrel Girl + Daken + Blade with basically the same strategy. Let them pile up strike tiles and Hulk clean up. Prof X makes the world go round but the time I won I think I only got one Master Plan to trigger, but something like 7 Judgments still did the trick.

Arimis_Thorn

Arimis Thorn wrote:

Currently plotting the destruction of all mankind because of the Squirrel Girl, Blade, Daken hard node. So many tiles generated. Hulk just dies before you even get half a chance to use him. I've tried Hulk Bombing twice. The second time I managed to get Blade and Daken down, though lost Hulk and Falcon (I think). And just when I finally was able to pull off a Berserker Rage, Nuts From Above.

The End.

It hurts my brain to think that in that matchup, I might have to target SG first. It just seems like suicide.

EDIT:

Also tried a Loki, DD, LThor team.

NOPE!! As soon as I had enough black to alter all of those strike tiles, Loki goes down.

Basically if you don't have an ABSURDLY favorable board right from the get go, quit out. Abandon all hope ye who enter. This way lies madness.

Great Googly Moogly, I was finally able to beat this with Patch/Hulk/Loki. Of all things, an Arrow Stab team up saved my butt, and I did in fact target Squirrel Girl first for this one.

Unless I happen to have a full stack of Health Packs, I highly doubt I'm going back for that one.

Unknown

Wow...people are really craving for Lcap.
I'm at 6th with 70k, only 3k ahead of 10th player with 11 hours remaining.

Good luck everyone!

JVReal

Has Simulator always used 5/5/5 build characters?

john1620b

JVReal wrote:

Has Simulator always used 5/5/5 build characters?

In all PvE events, any opponent over their usual max level is 5/5/5. It's part of how they make it "challenging" for us.

JVReal

john1620b wrote:

JVReal wrote:

Has Simulator always used 5/5/5 build characters?

In all PvE events, any opponent over their usual max level is 5/5/5. It's part of how they make it "challenging" for us.

I was facing a 137 She-Hulk, and she's 5/5/5, and not over her 166 normal max level.. Thats what is throwing me off.

Unknown

The cover status can be overwritten to be higher or lower than expected. For example a lot of the introductory teamup nodes have enemies at 1/1/1 even though they're usually around level 100. It seems like essential nodes always have 5/5/5 guys even if they're very low level, as well as any node with a 500 iso 8 reward.

Unknown

I've been saving up my whales for this event! Finally get to unleash the whales.

Unknown

Arimis Thorn wrote:

Arimis Thorn wrote:

Currently plotting the destruction of all mankind because of the Squirrel Girl, Blade, Daken hard node. So many tiles generated. Hulk just dies before you even get half a chance to use him. I've tried Hulk Bombing twice. The second time I managed to get Blade and Daken down, though lost Hulk and Falcon (I think). And just when I finally was able to pull off a Berserker Rage, Nuts From Above.

The End.

It hurts my brain to think that in that matchup, I might have to target SG first. It just seems like suicide.

EDIT:

Also tried a Loki, DD, LThor team.

NOPE!! As soon as I had enough black to alter all of those strike tiles, Loki goes down.

Basically if you don't have an ABSURDLY favorable board right from the get go, quit out. Abandon all hope ye who enter. This way lies madness.

Great Googly Moogly, I was finally able to beat this with Patch/Hulk/Loki. Of all things, an Arrow Stab team up saved my butt, and I did in fact target Squirrel Girl first for this one.

Unless I happen to have a full stack of Health Packs, I highly doubt I'm going back for that one.

I got it done with Patch/Cmags/Loki, focusing on Blade first, better done with a few iso boosts (+black/green and +red/yellow). Patch can eat a few hits, and still get out of the fight with full health, Cmags for board shake and protect tiles. Red tiles management is key, this way, the Thirst won't trigger, Daken will have fewer strike tiles and Cmags red will be fueled. Giving Patch higher attack priority grants that he's the one to make red matches, leaving cmags less exposed. As soon as loki gets enough black the match is over, especially if SG managed to use her yellow power.