Wolvie and Thor have been completely wrecked

danikalil

I can't believe it. When they said they would nerf Wolvie and Thor, I never thought it'd be anything like this.

I spent tons of Iso-8, and even a few of my own bucks, upgrading those two. And now - voilá - Wolvie's healing factor has been nearly nullified, and Thor's yellow attack is now so puny it's ridiculous.

Seriously. I'm no longer playing this game. They have no respect at all for the time and effort you put into it.

I know there are players who have whole 3-star teams, but I didn't. I'd invested everything in W and T.

Well. So much for it. Now for the other online games available.

I wish I could just get my money back.

Unknown

They aren't wrecked, they are refocused.

Thor is now aimed entirely at bringing on his very powerful green ability. Red feeds yellow feeds green - he is 'gathering the storm' and unleashes it when you hit your green AP.

Wolverine was ever intended to be a tank and because of his absurdly powerful regen he was doing just that. He was nigh on impervious to most match damage. Instead his healing factor cuts in when he needs it most to save his life, just as it does in the comics.

Unknown

You people (the devs) call this a fair tune up, i just got beat by a team including a lvl 85wolvie with adamantium slash doing 2884 damage... Why would you bother announcing its gonna be fair for all, then just f**k up thor???

Unknown

im glad im not the only one who found this ridiculous! how are they gonna make his most powerful move his weakest now?! they have screwd this game up badly! i dont think ill be playing anymore either u never know what they screw us over on next..

Unknown

I think the nerfs are fine both characters are still two of the strongest 2* characters. Its better to see skills do slightly different things rather than cost 1/2ap more it keeps the game interesting. My thor is 5/3/5 so I guess I get some good from the alteration to him but it now seems like 3/5/5 is his best build.
The two characters have not been wrecked, this is nothing compared to rags (he was wrecked without notice) both characters are still going to be two of the most common characters in pvp.

Unknown

It just seems that every time they put out an update, they screw the game up more and more. Not only did they cripple those characters, they also want you to spend HP on stockpile power up instead of 200 ISO. They are doing everything they can to squeeze more money out of anyone stupid enough to spend it. Crippling heroes makes people want to quit playing, not spend more $$$.

Dragon_Nexus

murphys938 wrote:

im glad im not the only one who found this ridiculous! how are they gonna make his most powerful move his weakest now?! they have screwd this game up badly! i dont think ill be playing anymore either u never know what they screw us over on next..

And they made his weakest move the most powerful, assuming you're talking about Thor.
Thor was designed to be a gradual build up to a singular big attack, but his lower end moves were so cheap people just spammed those and gathered greens for Wolverine's undercosted Feral Claws.

Now his yellow attack is formidable. Did you even see that? It creates 9 green tiles. Nine! Damage is lowered, sure, but the cascade potential will likely make up for it. Dude's a board shifter, the tiles will be all over the place. Gather all the green, then fire off the storm and damage the *entire enemy party*.
Honestly, Thor is MORE appealing to me now than before.

Unknown

Totally agree with first post.

Oh and if AT LEAST the devs could tell how they would nerf the characters, that could have helped some people, including myself. I finished maxing Thor a few days ago. If I knew how he was gonna be nerfed, I wouldnt have gone 5/5/3!
So now what, I have to wait for an update that is going to allow me to relocate the covs, or just make another Thor from 0? Nope. Im gonna stop playing. This game is still fun, but because Ive spent so much time (and some real money) on a team based on Thor (im not saying the new version is weak, far from it, he just doesnt fit in my team now), I dont think ill have the patience to max another team.
Oh and as somebody else said, stockpile for 100HP, are you serious? I was basically buying stockpiles every 3 fights. Here is something else I cant/wont do.

Goodbye Marvel Puzzle Quest, it was fun while it lasted!

Unknown

They said that Thor and Wolverine were getting changed weeks ago. I don't see how you're blaming them because you maxed Thor the wrong way 2 days ago when everytime you log in it's comes up in your face saying '' WE ARE CHANGING THESE 2 HEROES SOON '' . As for the boosts , as I don't completely agree with the HP costs , the boosts needed to get nerfed for PvP. All i was doing was boosting every match , made back my ISO to boost the next matchs , and was just killing everyone without even thinking of what i was doing. Now without boosts you have to stop and think , which i like more.

For example on how OP boosts were , during the Ares tourny , i kept him at 30% , had to make 1 yellow match , use IM40 recharge , get 9 red, hopefully made another red match or 2.Then proceed to deal 4k damage to the enemy team , twice ,and it was just rinse and repeat. Something had to be changed.

Unknown

Why why why why why would you EVER change an already existing character as a game developer? If Thor and wolverine were over powered, why not change other elements of the game to encourage users to use different characters? Make tournaments and fights that call for certain characters or have other elements that require very specific abilities that wolverine and Thor don't have. Offer buffs for other characters. Make all the new introduced characters just as strong. They could have done hundreds of things other than make 75% of gamers extremely frustrated because their whole strategy has been wrecked. I almost threw my phone at the wall tonight when I was losing fights tonight that I breezed by this morning. Bring about change in new elements please. Stop changing the old ones.

Unknown

You mid-tiered players have a right to be upset. The devs have continually screwed you for the past few months now. Less rewards, worse characters and deliberate choices in making it even harder for you to compete with the upper tiered players hat have been here since the beginning.

Unknown

Wolverine (patch) was also nerfed. Now, the green berserker power now puts 2 strike tiles for EACH TEAM! Like anybody goes into battle and says "Oh, by the way, I may be too strong for you, so here's some weapons to use against me..."

Who is the **** that thought this was a good idea?

Why do you have to be so damn greedy that you have to make the game worse for those who don't spend all their hard earned money?

Unknown

Lazarus Atreides wrote:

Wolverine (patch) was also nerfed. Now, the green berserker power now puts 2 strike tiles for EACH TEAM! Like anybody goes into battle and says "Oh, by the way, I may be too strong for you, so here's some weapons to use against me..."

Who is the **** that thought this was a good idea?

Did you EVER bother to read his skill descriptions? It is how it was supposed to work. "All friendly" tiles was a bug that worked against skill description.

Unknown

I've taken the time to actually create an account for this forum just to post how bad the nerf on thor was...
That's not how you go with balances. You do not nerf the **** out of a hero and call it balance in your books. I agree with doing some small changes to a hero that is powerful at the current time but not drop the NerfHammer on its head and call it balance, there should be other improvements in other corners of the game, slightly nerf a hero but at the same time buff other heroes to keep it on the same scale.
At the moment you just crushed a ** Hero to be worse than any hero in the game. I mean look at the 1 Star heroes, they are over THOR in terms of power by too much and they are the easiest to get.

Good job on ruining the game experience of alot of players.

NorthernPolarity

So I remember when Ragnarok was actually nerfed from tier 1 insaneness to the realms of unplayability, and I believe that everyone had a right to complain about that nerf. However, I guess what they say is true, and that people are always going to complain regardless of how the changes actually affect the game.

MarvelKarvel wrote:

Why why why why why would you EVER change an already existing character as a game developer? If Thor and wolverine were over powered, why not change other elements of the game to encourage users to use different characters? Make tournaments and fights that call for certain characters or have other elements that require very specific abilities that wolverine and Thor don't have. Offer buffs for other characters. Make all the new introduced characters just as strong. They could have done hundreds of things other than make 75% of gamers extremely frustrated because their whole strategy has been wrecked. I almost threw my phone at the wall tonight when I was losing fights tonight that I breezed by this morning. Bring about change in new elements please. Stop changing the old ones.

I don't even know where to begin with this one. Were you here for back when ragnaroks thunderclap was 2 ap, and how it was basically an instawin button with boosts? By your logic, why not buff everyone to be able to win the game in a single turn. Characters that are overpowered need to be toned down for the health of the game, although the devs could buff some underused characters every once in a while. Sure, the game might not be as instawin for you anymore, but the same applies across the board, which makes it potentially more strategic and better overall.

justcallcoco wrote:

I've taken the time to actually create an account for this forum just to post how bad the nerf on thor was...
That's not how you go with balances. You do not nerf the tinykitty out of a hero and call it balance in your books. I agree with doing some small changes to a hero that is powerful at the current time but not drop the NerfHammer on its head and call it balance, there should be other improvements in other corners of the game, slightly nerf a hero but at the same time buff other heroes to keep it on the same scale.
At the moment you just crushed a ** Hero to be worse than any hero in the game. I mean look at the 1 Star heroes, they are over THOR in terms of power by too much and they are the easiest to get.

Good job on ruining the game experience of alot of players.

Worse than any hero in the game? Seriously? Have you seen Bagman or Loki? Do you understand the concept of board control and cascading? Just because a skill does low damage doesn't mean its ****: if I had a skill that made all the tiles on the board purple but did no damage, would that be the worst skill in the game? Thor's yellow adds 9 green tiles to the board, which is more than almost every other skill in the game, and is still a top tier 2*. If you listed all of the 2* characters in order of power level, I'm sure Thor would still be near the top: why don't you try that out before complaining about how Thor is suddenly bag-tier.

Unknown

If limited to 2 character combinations (since an awful a lot of tournaments forces you to use someone else), Wolverine is still top tier damage in 2* when paired with OBW. In my limited tests the pair is still more than capable of outracing Spiderman before he can establish any kind of board control, and probably will outrace GSBW too. By outracing I mean that your glass cannon will kill those two problematic characters before they die almost all the time. It says nothing about whether you'll actually win the game because you can easily have a scenario where you kill Spiderman and then they kill Wolverine and OBW, but you can definitely remove any 1 dangerous character before either of your two characters die on average (but both of your glass cannon may die before their second character dies).

Thor seems more like a combo character now, which he should be because he's a tank. Note that Ares is not a tank character. His moves are massive liabilities on defense, and even on offense it's hardly foolproof to use his moves without having them blow up on your face, which is why his moves do so much damage.

Unknown

The cost of his Yellow attack is too high for the outcome which is very situational when placing the green tiles.

Dayv

justcallcoco wrote:

At the moment you just crushed a ** Hero to be worse than any hero in the game. I mean look at the 1 Star heroes, they are over THOR in terms of power by too much and they are the easiest to get.

Right. So you'd rather use Bag-Man or Moonstone than the modified Thor? Or Yelena, 1-star Hawkeye, or Venom?

Yes, he's not as powerful as he was, but to say Thor has been made the weakest character in the game isn't even close to sensible.

Unknown

Just want to point out that one of the cited reasons for the nerf was variety. In the past 2 days I've seen a heck of a lot of OBWs on darn near every team I fight. I'm aware she's on the radar for a nerf but again it seems unnecessary if you have enough strong 2* guys that can deal with her. Depending on the board she can stall out a game singlehandedly while you get beaten down if you don't have her maxed. It's also kind of funny that they nerfed Wolverine's 2* healing but not the 3*, I fought one Patch that after 3 rounds had negligible damage on him.

Unknown

OBW isn't getting nerfed (at least she wasn't on that list they posted). I just think her black is slightly bugged and they are going to correct it.

Unknown

Not a whole lot to say about the changes other than I will simply not be supporting* you all anymore with in game purchases... I'm not going to chase/lvl the next hot character simply so you can wreck them in the future like you've done with these two characters. I've spent a fortune in crystals (earned via time and effort) on level up character and ignore others only to see my time and effort completely wasted. I've worked too long and hard to be competitive in tournaments to see my team destroyed.

This isn't elegantly written, I'm a bit too annoyed to do better, but I think I've gotten my points across.

* I've supported with 10-20 dollars spent. I cannot remember which.

Edit: Actually just looked through Google play. It was 25 dollars. (Most of it spots for more covers.)