Hot Shot - Mar 23 - 25 - Season XII

puppychow

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

I'm a generous player myself, I climb then I sacrafice so my friends & mates can get covers where they need. I actually keep my words when I say I "donate". I don't play for ranks or chest pump, u catch me and I'll catch u. See you out there Puppy Chow.

I don't think i've ever hit you before this event, Apocalypse. I don't like to hit ppl more than once per event, except in retaliation. But for some reason, the AI seems to offer me a lot of matchups w/ Crewsaders. And I certainly can't ignore a 30+ target when the alternatives are worth 3-5 points.

That being said, let me give a comparison. As a player focused on speed matches, I normally spend 2 minutes per match. Shamsali's match took me 3 minutes. Kallark took 2 1/2 minutes. Yours took 90 seconds, which indicates weakness in your defensive team b/c your Torch is under leveled. I don't want you to take my comment as criticism but rather critique. I realize you're not a whale, and I'm not either. But you need to find a way to level up your featured pvp character as much as possible. I personally took this advice from another player in my alliance. He said to level my Loki ASAP, I added 60 levels to my trickster and my defensive team (Loki/Hood/HT) have given me 5 defensive wins. Never happened to me before.

Unknown

slidecage wrote:

kaif the mad wrote:

If it is going to take 600 points too get top 100 in this one, I'm screwed. I'm at 500 and getting steamrolled by 230 Torch 260 Patch, 260+ someone else non-stop. This one sucks for those of us without torch. Worse than usual.

i could jump with an hour to go and get around 300 to 350 and was good enough for top 100. Jumped with hour to go Top 10 was over 1000 pts and ever other team had 230 torch ARES and Jugg. Whats the point in even playing this game... Im so glad i did not spend the cash on the last sale. until they change it back never again will they see my pennies.

I normally finish top 50 if i dont care. Top 25 if i do. Here i stopped caring. Then i go to the simulator and run into a cage iron fist team who gives me hundreds of damage for free every round while i tickle them. Then i go to the gauntlet..

Lol.. guys here can downvote me and delete my posts all they want but these guys appear to be trying to make the game worse.

Unknown

puppychow wrote:

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

I'm a generous player myself, I climb then I sacrafice so my friends & mates can get covers where they need. I actually keep my words when I say I "donate". I don't play for ranks or chest pump, u catch me and I'll catch u. See you out there Puppy Chow.

I don't think i've ever hit you before this event, Apocalypse. I don't like to hit ppl more than once per event, except in retaliation. But for some reason, the AI seems to offer me a lot of matchups w/ Crewsaders. And I certainly can't ignore a 30+ target when the alternatives are worth 3-5 points.

That being said, let me give a comparison. As a player focused on speed matches, I normally spend 2 minutes per match. Shamsali's match took me 3 minutes. Kallark took 2 1/2 minutes. Yours took 90 seconds, which indicates weakness in your defensive team b/c your Torch is under leveled. I don't want you to take my comment as criticism but rather critique. I realize you're not a whale, and I'm not either. But you need to find a way to level up your featured pvp character as much as possible. I personally took this advice from another player in my alliance. He said to level my Loki ASAP, I added 60 levels to my trickster and my defensive team (Loki/Hood/HT) have given me 5 defensive wins. Never happened to me before.

Thanks for the advice. And trust me if you hit me 3-5x it just means im too confident out there. I don't expect anyone to wait for me to shield up and or ask me (if not my mates). Hit me up, I won't cry, or call you out like "some" folks here. Sometimes they think everyone is supposed to let them walk through like they magically got those points. Someone had to take a beating. Some noob lvl 94s team had to take a 40+ hit for them to climb.

As far as my characters, im just lvling as I go and lvling them where I like; not where it's needed (not trying to sound smart btw). Again thanks for the evaluation of my much needed improvement of characters. Cheers.

Unknown

puppychow wrote:

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

I'm a generous player myself, I climb then I sacrafice so my friends & mates can get covers where they need. I actually keep my words when I say I "donate". I don't play for ranks or chest pump, u catch me and I'll catch u. See you out there Puppy Chow.

I don't think i've ever hit you before this event, Apocalypse. I don't like to hit ppl more than once per event, except in retaliation. But for some reason, the AI seems to offer me a lot of matchups w/ Crewsaders. And I certainly can't ignore a 30+ target when the alternatives are worth 3-5 points.

That being said, let me give a comparison. As a player focused on speed matches, I normally spend 2 minutes per match. Shamsali's match took me 3 minutes. Kallark took 2 1/2 minutes. Yours took 90 seconds, which indicates weakness in your defensive team b/c your Torch is under leveled. I don't want you to take my comment as criticism but rather critique. I realize you're not a whale, and I'm not either. But you need to find a way to level up your featured pvp character as much as possible. I personally took this advice from another player in my alliance. He said to level my Loki ASAP, I added 60 levels to my trickster and my defensive team (Loki/Hood/HT) have given me 5 defensive wins. Never happened to me before.

as a guy with a decent roster. I have developed the following strategy:

Get a decent roster of 166 3 star people, plus a xforce wolverine over 200.. then get as many marginal characters who are featured in pvp over 100 as possible.

This leaves you competitive every pvp match. It has worked well to this point. Im inside top 25 daken now without trying for example.

puppychow

puppychow wrote:

That being said, let me give a comparison. As a player focused on speed matches, I normally spend 2 minutes per match. Shamsali's match took me 3 minutes. Kallark took 2 1/2 minutes. Yours took 90 seconds, which indicates weakness in your defensive team b/c your Torch is under leveled. I don't want you to take my comment as criticism but rather critique. I realize you're not a whale, and I'm not either. But you need to find a way to level up your featured pvp character as much as possible. I personally took this advice from another player in my alliance. He said to level my Loki ASAP, I added 60 levels to my trickster and my defensive team (Loki/Hood/HT) have given me 5 defensive wins. Never happened to me before.

To be fair, I can lump Predetah in with Apocalypse re: weak HT. Predtah's level 90 HT enabled me to finish my match against his defense in 90 seconds too. And I'm up to 8 defensive wins right now.

puppychow

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

Thanks for the advice. And trust me if you hit me 3-5x it just means im too confident out there. I don't expect anyone to wait for me to shield up and or ask me (if not my mates). Hit me up, I won't cry, or call you out like "some" folks here. Sometimes they think everyone is supposed to let them walk through like they magically got those points. Someone had to take a beating. Some noob lvl 94s team had to take a 40+ hit for them to climb.

You make 2 interesting points. First, I had a 2* roster hit me tonight in sim for 30 points. As he's only worth 6 points in a retal, I decided to move on. Even if I were to get those 1/2 dozen points back, the re-retal will cost me maybe another 30 points too. lol

In this HT pvp, there was a guy in my bracket who made an intentional decision to hit me 4x in the span of a few hours on day 2 (who's gonna bother shielding w/ 3 dozen hours left in the event?). Apparently he felt the need to push me down in the bracket for whatever reason. So what did I do in response? Instead of retal'ing for a lousy 20 points against the same dude, I decided to make a push up the standings instead. Result? I'm a full 200 points ahead of my nemesis for this event, and in second place in my bracket (sorry LAWYER!). Point made.

Unknown

I'm sorry but this whole super buff of half the roster is stupid... For those of us who had to fight and scrape to finally move up... And now people with a jug are dominating... I Am almost all 3* at this point... And after all that work now it is pointless... Please... PLEASE don't leave it like this... All it does is help beginners get to the limbo that is some 3*... And then those that are already doing just fine with multiple 3* and 4* maxed... They just get more power... I don't even see a point in trying anymore... Where before i would get at least 300 I'm barely above 200 and all my health packs are gone... PLEASE STOP THIS CRAZY STUFF

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PhoenixReborn83 wrote:

I'm sorry but this whole super buff of half the roster is stupid... For those of us who had to fight and scrape to finally move up... And now people with a jug are dominating... I Am almost all 3* at this point... And after all that work now it is pointless... Please... PLEASE don't leave it like this... All it does is help beginners get to the limbo that is some 3*... And then those that are already doing just fine with multiple 3* and 4* maxed... They just get more power... I don't even see a point in trying anymore... Where before i would get at least 300 I'm barely above 200 and all my health packs are gone... PLEASE STOP THIS CRAZY STUFF

Like i said before this seems to be an apology for the fact that they cant set it up so matches are segregated between 4, 3 and 2 star teams. It seems like they are trying to even teams in pvp via buffing regardless of level because they cant make matches properly.

In a moment of hilarity i find myself thinking about levelling out ares and juggernaut just in case despite having numerous levelled out 3 star people. On top of that they nerf my 94 magneto.

I feel sorry for up and comers now. Regardless of the wacky buffing they do i can do fine but i realize up and comers who d3 needs will struggle worse than they did before.

energythief

This event sucks. Boosted Ares is just stupid. Lost 150 pts in 10 minutes.

franckynight

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

puppychow wrote:

_APOCALYPSE_ wrote:

Hey I thought you guys were polite at asking if I was going to be shielded before sniping me? I'm broke, im poor and needed the points and you promised donations. Btw, tell Shamsali I was only sniping Jamie Madrox but I don't kno why he lost points. Can we still be friends?

Apocalpyse, your HT is weak. Level 101 only? Your team gave me a 90 second match. But no worries, I've hit Kallark and Shamsali in this pvp. I'm an equal opportunity hitter.

I'm a generous player myself, I climb then I sacrafice so my friends & mates can get covers where they need. I actually keep my words when I say I "donate". I don't play for ranks or chest pump, u catch me and I'll catch u. See you out there Puppy Chow.

What a lot of ppl like you, apocalypse, dont understand is that i never hit ppl outside of crews during my hops.. Thats why we re so defensive against ppl who want to feed off us and follow us from shard to shard (im talking about you and your immortal rage buddies) trying to get easy points from us.. Sham and i would never hesitate to tank down and get our points back if needed just to show you we re not your punchbags.. Coming here doing some gimmicky bravados is easy but i saw what you got on the battlefield.. And it was not much.. We have all retreated to crews ppl to ensure any of you get this elektra cover.. I hope next time you will choose more carefully your shard..apocalyse postponed.. lol

acescracked

puppychow wrote:

puppychow wrote:

That being said, let me give a comparison. As a player focused on speed matches, I normally spend 2 minutes per match. Shamsali's match took me 3 minutes. Kallark took 2 1/2 minutes. Yours took 90 seconds, which indicates weakness in your defensive team b/c your Torch is under leveled. I don't want you to take my comment as criticism but rather critique. I realize you're not a whale, and I'm not either. But you need to find a way to level up your featured pvp character as much as possible. I personally took this advice from another player in my alliance. He said to level my Loki ASAP, I added 60 levels to my trickster and my defensive team (Loki/Hood/HT) have given me 5 defensive wins. Never happened to me before.

To be fair, I can lump Predetah in with Apocalypse re: weak HT. Predtah's level 90 HT enabled me to finish my match against his defense in 90 seconds too. And I'm up to 8 defensive wins right now.

Wow, you are really good at this game! I can't even beat seeds in 90 secs..maybe 102 secs if I get lucky cascades. Forget any defensive wins...never get those. Keep up the good work!

PeterGibbons316

orbitalint wrote:

PeterGibbons316 wrote:

So usually I target 600 pts and that is good enough for top 100, think that will change this event?

I'm still seeing pretty soft teams at 550 with less than 24 hours left.

My guess, with purple Daken on the line, is that top 100 will be in the 650-675 range for most brackets. Sought after covers bring out the pushes in droves.

I shielded at 670 something for when Cyc was awarded. Barely saved top 100.

I can't remember the last time top 100 was purple Daken, so anyone that can push for it, will give it a try.

100th ended up being 598 pts in my bracket. I shielded last night at 575 hoping for some defensive wins, but didn't get any. Woke up this morning at 112th with 3 minutes left in the event. Fought a quick 31 pt battle to pull myself up to 604 and grab the 96th spot and the Daken cover I needed.

franckynight

Got some time to waste so here we go..

aesthetocyst wrote:

It's been awhile, Mr. Night, this policy is new to me. When did it go into effect?

things are simple.. under 900 pts, i'm hitting anyone worth the points if i didnt reckonize names and we have no history between us (i dont know your ign so i dont know how i will behave with you if i see you in my nodes..) over 900 pts, at the shield hoping level, i will only hit and look for my teamates.. thats the very essence of the shield hop.. so except for a retal worth the points, i never hit ppl outside the crews during my hop.. so this policy is in effect since i shield hop (515 days here so maybe a year.. cant remember)..

aesthetocyst wrote:

Now this is paranoia. Every point earned in PVP comes at someone else's expense. They can't all be seed teams, or D3 would have to call it PVE, East Wing.

i dont know your team so i may sound paranoiac but each shard has a dominant team in pvp.. best in 1, x in 4-5, raiders and punishers in 3, crews in 2.. i ve been playing this game for enough time to reckon when ppl target you on purpose.. so yeah, there are guys who prided themselves in chasing us.. once again, under 900 pts i never hit ppl more than once to avoid bad blood.. and it gives ppl generally a good retal they can save for later..

aesthetocyst wrote:

Why would points from you and your fellows be easier than from anyone else? You are saying you are soft targets?

are you really playing this game? ppl alaways look for big points nodes and there are plenty of those in my team.. so yeah.. ppl tend to feel comfortable looking for our points..if you ve ever been in a battlechat, you should know that..thats why lately, we re drying up the pool by shielding out around the 3-4 hrs mark to let late climbers fighting for 3-4 pts q.. lol

aesthetocyst wrote:

FIFY. Wow, that Elektra must be AWESOME, since you're willing to make a sham of PVP to protect her honor!

i always fight for the honor of a girl.. thats who i am..

san

You guys actually plan these things? I don't even look at names. If the points are there, and I feel I can beat the defensive team, I'm in. Simple as that. No bad blood, no targeting, and I don't save any nodes for later. Granted that I don't shield hop very often, and I'm roughly a 700-800pt player, so certainly not competing for the same spots.

I feel that some folks just put way too much effort and thought into this game. It is, after all, a game.

Unknown

Loving the PvP changes. Always thought it would be nice to buff more than one character an event. First time hitting 1000 x4 icing on the cake.

Unknown

san-mpq wrote:

You guys actually plan these things? I don't even look at names. If the points are there, and I feel I can beat the defensive team, I'm in. Simple as that. No bad blood, no targeting, and I don't save any nodes for later. Granted that I don't shield hop very often, and I'm roughly a 700-800pt player, so certainly not competing for the same spots.

I feel that some folks just put way too much effort and thought into this game. It is, after all, a game.

So what you're saying is that you don't understand why anyone would play the game differently than your way, the correct way.

san

ark123 wrote:

san-mpq wrote:

You guys actually plan these things? I don't even look at names. If the points are there, and I feel I can beat the defensive team, I'm in. Simple as that. No bad blood, no targeting, and I don't save any nodes for later. Granted that I don't shield hop very often, and I'm roughly a 700-800pt player, so certainly not competing for the same spots.

I feel that some folks just put way too much effort and thought into this game. It is, after all, a game.

So what you're saying is that you don't understand why anyone would play the game differently than your way, the correct way.

What I am saying is that there are folks on here who at least appear to be quite upset at getting "hit" in a game. I understand playing for fun, and I understand playing competitively (been there, done that with many a game), but in the end, a game is a game and if it is affecting your mood to the point where you are getting frustrated and clearly expressing that frustration as much as some forumites here do, that is an actual problem. I mean that in the most respectful way - when something is allowed to take over how you feel and react, whether it be drugs, people, or video games, it is a problem.

I don't believe my way is the only way or the correct way, as you allege. In fact, I point that out in the last sentence, in understanding that I do not play the same as others, nor compete for the same rosters spots. Rather, I see it all as a spectrum. Some of my alliance mates are quite competitive, and do really well, others not as much as simply play to the minimums. The one thing we all understand is that real life takes priority, something I value very much. As a human being, a gamer, and a mental health professional, I do believe that real life ought to take priority over something as trivial as a video game. Play to your heart's content. Enjoy the game. Be competitive. Have some fun with it and build some rivalries. But to take the time out of your day and go out of you way to specifically target someone or retaliate for loss of virtual points in a video game, goes a bit too far for me.

simonsez

san-mpq wrote:

Granted that I don't shield hop very often

Well, thanks for chiming in and critiquing the play styles of those who do...

san

ark123 wrote:

san-mpq wrote:

You guys actually plan these things? I don't even look at names. If the points are there, and I feel I can beat the defensive team, I'm in. Simple as that. No bad blood, no targeting, and I don't save any nodes for later. Granted that I don't shield hop very often, and I'm roughly a 700-800pt player, so certainly not competing for the same spots.

I feel that some folks just put way too much effort and thought into this game. It is, after all, a game.

So what you're saying is that you don't understand why anyone would play the game differently than your way, the correct way.

Let's clear any misconceptions before I begin here. Please, re-read my last sentence. It is implied that I play my own way, and I understand that different people play in different ways. I understand this from a personal perspective and have played games both competitively and casually. However, the essence of competitive play was always fun. I have never allowed a game to dictate my life, my emotions, or my behaviour in other aspects. There are many in my alliance who are competitive, and quite good at this game, and others that are less so. The one thing that we all get, however, is that in the end, real life takes priority.

I was trying to make light of the situation at hand. I observed that there are several individuals who have expressed being offended by getting "hit" in a video game. Some of these individuals feel that others "target" them because they are so valuable, which I was comically attempting to dispute with a real example. I truly do not care if someone is a Crewsader, or X-Men, or Punisher - I don't care for your alliance, and I do not target you because you are in it - rather, I look at the points. The argument appears to be that these individuals are specifically targeted, and to some extent, this may very well be the case. However, even this is part of the game. Getting upset over that, and expressing frustration with such zealous conviction that one may be seen as delusional, tells me that all of a sudden, the virtual world has affected someone's emotional world - this is what I see as a problem. As a gamer, a mental health professional, and a human being, I see this a a problem. In fact, I would argue that anything that is allowed to affect us to such a high degree is often seen as a problem (drugs, alcohol, people, video games). What I point out, and want to point out, is that in the end, this is a video game. It will be a part of your life for days, weeks, maybe a couple of years, and then you will move on with your life. Let's look at the bigger picture. Don't let the frustration from a virtual game cloud your judgement or sway your emotions. Let's all take a break, think about this, and check our selves. Let's be real.



TL:DR It's a video game. Don't take it so seriously.

TxMoose

dangit - just need to vent! With Ldaken on the line I went all out and tried my hand at shield hopping for the first time since he is the last *** I really want. First hop I won 2 games but was hit twice, so that was a wash. Got gun shy on the second and only played one game. Third hop cascade got me early and had no chance so retreated quickly and played a second, so it was a wash. So after my initial push and only one match worth of points had me in the 520s. Was going to be close and with 20 min left I dropped below 100th so I broke with ~12 min left, won 2 matches and lost 100 pts, ending with 420. TINYKITTY!!! I know I was only running ares obw, so that made me a ripe target, but losing that many matches in minutes blows. working on Lthor Loki but not sure they're ready yet. Maybe Loki would be a better deterrent than OBW. He has 4 green now but could spend for the 5th. Ugh, I really wanted to start daken - with ddq making it just a matter of time before what you have gets better, and the gauntlet 2nd sub complete except for his essentials I thought spending some hp on shielding would push me over the top. I think I had too slow of a team and I play very cautiously checking opponents ap before deciding what to do - maybe that needs to change, but when I get fast, I get sloppy and they get a power off and down goes obw. I don't have to worry about that with loki but his animations are slow, so bleh. Oh well, live and learn. And don't get me wrong - not upset with those who hit me. I would've hit me too, but nevertheless....it blows.