Character Rotations For Season XI

David [Hi-Fi] Moore
David [Hi-Fi] Moore Posts: 2,872 Site Admin
edited February 2015 in MPQ General Discussion
Greetings MPQ Community,

Here's the latest Character Rotation plan set to go live with the start of Season XI on Thursday, February 5th, 2015. (To see the original post outlining the Character Rotation Plan visit: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17494).

Rotating In: Magneto (Classic), Squirrel Girl, Thor (Modern) and Star-Lord added to packs.

Rotating Out: Captain America (Steve Rogers), Captain Marvel (Modern), The Hulk removed from packs.

The Full Slate Of 3-Star Characters Available For Season XI;
    Blade Daredevil Deadpool Doctor Doom Falcon Gamora The Hood Human Torch (Classic) Loki Luke Cage Magneto (Classic) Mystique Punisher Rocket & Groot Sentry Spider-Man (Classic) Squirrel Girl Storm (Mohawk) Thor (Modern) Wolverine (Patch)

3-Star Characters Excluded In Season XI;
    Beast Black Panther Black Widow (Grey Suit) Captain America (Steve Rogers) Captain Marvel (Modern), Colossus Daken (Classic) Doctor Octopus The Hulk Iron Man (Model 40) Psylocke Ragnarok She-Hulk

Characters that are taken out of packs will start rotating back in as other characters ahead of them in the rotation queue return. We'll always communicate in advance which characters will be rotating out.

Reminder: This allows us to work on the characters that are out of the spotlight.

Thank you!
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  • Captain America is out of rotation now? Seriously? He's arguably the best PvE character in the game and someone starting now cannot possibly get him?

    I'm all for roster diversity but unless everyone can no longer use Captain America for PvE this isn't even remotely fair and there would literally be no reason for a new person to even attempt PvE starting with a handicap of unable to ever get Captain America.
  • rixmith
    rixmith Posts: 707 Critical Contributor
    I hope cMags and Thor get added to the Lightning Rounds!
  • eaise
    eaise Posts: 217 Tile Toppler
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    there goes 3 of the 4 characters that I have with a decent amount of covers icon_cry.gif
  • Instead of rotating Captain America and/or Marvel, why not do it to the likes of Lazy Storm?
  • GrumpySmurf1002
    GrumpySmurf1002 Posts: 3,511 Chairperson of the Boards
    Phantron wrote:
    Captain America is out of rotation now? Seriously? He's arguably the best PvE character in the game and someone starting now cannot possibly get him?

    I'm all for roster diversity but unless everyone can no longer use Captain America for PvE this isn't even remotely fair and there would literally be no reason for a new person to even attempt PvE starting with a handicap of unable to ever get Captain America.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say the list of people that started the game at the beginning on season 9 and now have a usable 3* Captain America for PvE is a short one. That's approximately the duration that he'll be vaulted.

    I'd also like to see the argument of how rosters with 1 cover of Rogers is fair compared to maxed Cap rosters, but not zero.

    I'm all for outrage, but c'mon. Every characters getting a spin in the vault, it seems. He was due eventually.
  • Thanos
    Thanos Posts: 722 Critical Contributor
    They really need to do something about the token situation, the list of excluded characters is almost as long as the included ones.
  • ballingbees
    ballingbees Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    Mohawk Storm does not really need reworking, on the other hand Susan Storm certainly does.

    and while we're at it, Release the Daken!
  • Phantron wrote:
    Captain America is out of rotation now? Seriously? He's arguably the best PvE character in the game and someone starting now cannot possibly get him?

    I'm all for roster diversity but unless everyone can no longer use Captain America for PvE this isn't even remotely fair and there would literally be no reason for a new person to even attempt PvE starting with a handicap of unable to ever get Captain America.

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say the list of people that started the game at the beginning on season 9 and now have a usable 3* Captain America for PvE is a short one. That's approximately the duration that he'll be vaulted.

    I'd also like to see the argument of how rosters with 1 cover of Rogers is fair compared to maxed Cap rosters, but not zero.

    I'm all for outrage, but c'mon. Every characters getting a spin in the vault, it seems. He was due eventually.

    If you have one of each cover you can always buy more, but if you have no covers and a certain character isn't in the rotation then that's not even an option. You have a situation where if someone new heard Captain America is good and want to spend money on him, he can't even do that. This pretty much means they've no plan for future growth. It doesn't matter whether this guy who is going to spend money on Captain America really exists. The fact that you can end up with a situation where you can't even spend money on the game even if you wanted to is absurd. This is no longer a 'we need to work on characters when they're vaulted'. Captain America doesn't need to be worked on. If he does, it'd be easier to completely remove him from being usable at all for PvE while they're figuring out how to balance his shield juggling awesomeness because the difference between having that as an option or not is probably the biggest advantage in PvE that doesn't involve a probable infinite combo. Daken and Patch were both out at certain times, and they're not characters that need to be worked on. If true healing is bad, they simply need to be removed from the game, which obviously didn't actually happen. If true healing is okay, then they're also perfectly okay and taking away the pillars of sustained grinding is terrible for a new player.
  • PuceMoose
    PuceMoose Posts: 1,445 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanks for the update. It would be fantastic if the out-of-rotation characters all received some small changes/buffs. Looking at the list, here's my quickly-tossed out ideas:

    Beast - needs complete rework. Not even sure how to fix this mess without a do-over.
    Black Panther - *So close* to awesome! Make blue do the same thing as yellow, but with protect tiles - fixed!
    Black Widow (Grey Suit) - make red better. Cost 9, keep the damage, make it target only one 3x3 block?
    Captain America (Steve Rogers) - lower the cost of yellow to 10, make it target just a single tile, with 50% of the total protection offered by the 19 AP's three tiles cumulative protection.
    Captain Marvel (Modern), - Yellow and Black seem fine, make red target strike tiles at higher levels, up the damage by 20%
    Colossus - haven't used him much - maybe re-evaluate black's cost / devastating alternate usage if he's the last one standing (black power automatically downs target enemy if C is last one standing, for example)
    Daken (Classic) - seems fine
    Doctor Octopus - either lowered costs across the board or big-time rework
    The Hulk - red needs a rework
    Iron Man (Model 40) - eliminate AP drain, lower costs by 5 AP on blue and 3 on red, make his yellow a straight 7 AP with slight increases in AP gain per level
    Psylocke - 15% increase in damage on Red and Black, elimination of tile restriction on red. Blue allows you to target any basic tile, steals that color when it resolves
    Ragnarok - third ability: Imperfect Mjolnir: [8 blackflag.png ] Ragnarok launches his not-quite-a-perfect copy of Mjolnir at the enemy, dealing xx damage (1,777 damage at max level) and destroying seven random yellow or red tiles in the process, dealing damage but not generating AP.
    She-Hulk - level 5 blue - four tiles. Red - destroyed tiles deal damage. Green - for that cost, it should be true healing. If that's not a thing that can happen, it should only cost 8 or 9.
  • I started this game on 30 Nov, toward the end of Season VIII

    I've these guys with 1 cover sitting in my roster doing nothing:
    Colossus
    Psylocke
    Laken
    (and of course I don't have a few 3* like Black Panther/ BWGS/ IM40)

    So these guys with 1 cover are going to be covered in dust until at least in March? :<
  • Arondite
    Arondite Posts: 1,188 Chairperson of the Boards
    "David wrote:
    Moore"]Greetings MPQ Community,

    Here's the latest Character Rotation plan set to go live with the start of Season XI on Thursday, February 5th, 2015. (To see the original post outlining the Character Rotation Plan visit: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=17494).

    Rotating In: Magneto (Classic), Squirrel Girl, Thor (Modern) and Star-Lord added to packs.

    Rotating Out: Captain America (Steve Rogers), Captain Marvel (Modern), The Hulk removed from packs.

    The Full Slate Of 3-Star Characters Available For Season XI;
      Blade Daredevil Deadpool Doctor Doom Falcon Gamora The Hood Human Torch (Classic) Loki Luke Cage Magneto (Classic) Mystique Punisher Rocket & Groot Sentry Spider-Man (Classic) Squirrel Girl Storm (Mohawk) Thor (Modern) Wolverine (Patch)

    3-Star Characters Excluded In Season XI;
      Beast Black Panther Black Widow (Grey Suit) Captain America (Steve Rogers) Captain Marvel (Modern), Colossus Daken (Classic) Doctor Octopus The Hulk Iron Man (Model 40) Psylocke Ragnarok She-Hulk

    Characters that are taken out of packs will start rotating back in as other characters ahead of them in the rotation queue return. We'll always communicate in advance which characters will be rotating out.

    Reminder: This allows us to work on the characters that are out of the spotlight.

    Thank you!

    Magneto and Thor in

    Yessssss

    Hulk and Steve out

    Nooooo
  • When are spidey and iw getting rotated out? They should've been taken out in seasons 7 or 8
  • Oldboy
    Oldboy Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    Drats i'm still missing two black hulk covers and 2 covers (black and yellow) for cap marvel.

    Fingers crossed i pull them from tokens before the season ends
  • ronin_san
    ronin_san Posts: 980 Critical Contributor
    As Ragnarok is out of the rotation for Season 11, I'll assume 3* Bullseye drops first. This grants time for us to get Ragnarok's third ability RIGHT as Season 12 starts.
  • mohio
    mohio Posts: 1,690 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm decent at math but just don't remember all the numbers. So does this now mean we have a whopping 0.45% chance of drawing a given 4* (2.7% by 6 chars)? Not that they were great before, but that seems pretty abysmal. And if you only need one color? Whew, good luck.
  • OzarkBoatswain
    OzarkBoatswain Posts: 693 Critical Contributor
    Puce Moose wrote:
    She-Hulk - level 5 blue - four tiles.

    This would give the enemy another strike tile. Otherwise your suggestions are good.
  • Not more than 3 months after character rotation was included and already more than 1/3 of the 3* is out of rotation. Does this still seem like a viable solution?

    PS: I need 1 cover to respec my LCap, but I can forget about that now!
  • Quebbster
    Quebbster Posts: 8,070 Chairperson of the Boards
    Huh, I thought they'd run Unstable ISO again before they vaulted Steve. Maybe this means they have realized it is a terrible event. icon_lol.gif
  • rbdragon
    rbdragon Posts: 479 Mover and Shaker
    Phantron wrote:
    Captain America is out of rotation now? Seriously? He's arguably the best PvE character in the game and someone starting now cannot possibly get him?

    I'm all for roster diversity but unless everyone can no longer use Captain America for PvE this isn't even remotely fair and there would literally be no reason for a new person to even attempt PvE starting with a handicap of unable to ever get Captain America.

    I get what you're saying, but I must say there are plenty of other characters who do just fine in PvE - I usually place very high, and almost never use LCap...
  • CNash
    CNash Posts: 952 Critical Contributor
    On one hand, I only need one more red Hulk cover to max him, so he won't be seeing 166 for another month or so.

    On the other, the chance of me pulling that red Hulk was almost non-existent anyway.

    On a third hand (for all you mutants out there), this does mean I can push Patch up higher than him and have Patch tanking more colours...