Moral wrote: You know that iPhone 5s you paid $150 for in July? They're giving them out for free. Early adopters pay. It's life. You're paying for a temporary advantage. You don't get to enjoy the rewards of the advantage then demand a refund when the playing field gets leveled down the road.
Fievel wrote: Moral wrote: You know that iPhone 5s you paid $150 for in July? They're giving them out for free. Early adopters pay. It's life. You're paying for a temporary advantage. You don't get to enjoy the rewards of the advantage then demand a refund when the playing field gets leveled down the road. While I don't have a horse in this race, I will say that this argument is not valid. Phones are goods, while HP is technically currency. Goods depreciate in value over time due to obsolescence, whereas currency remains relatively steady. $5 is always going to be $5. It may not buy as much as it used to, but a $5 from 10 years ago still acts as a $5 bill today. The price of HP has not changed in the few months that I've been playing this game, so the value of the HP purchased remains constant. Once again, I don't have much of an opinion on this matter either way: I've only recently joined a free public alliance and I've never had to pay for alliance slots or dealt with an alliance that did. I'm just weighing in on that one comment's inaccuracy.
Maximus Punishus wrote: Securities or not securities or whatever magic.... They made my purchase void. The agreement between me and the buyer has been nullified and i am left with zilch value for my money spent.
Maximus Punishus wrote: The guy used a metaphor to explain how we feel riped off. They bite the hand that feed them like a snake. Under contract laws, D3 has just voided our agreement by making my purchase worthless and this is not the first time they do this. It seems like this is their business model. Bait people to buy something then devalue it and create something else of value and make it worthless.
Coppertouret wrote: http://www.d3pforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18552 link for petition to maybe gain some ground with devs
pmorcs wrote: This poll is ****. Refer to the more accurate poll thread including the option "mpq players are all whiners". Jesus. Nobody owes you anything. Grow up. Stop spending money on frivolous digital nonsense if you can't afford to "lose" it, which you actually haven't, incidentally.
pmorcs wrote: Nothing was taken away from you. Except maybe vowels.
Maximus Punishus wrote: pmorcs wrote: Nothing was taken away from you. Except maybe vowels. Free rider ?? All free riders seem to always have shallow one line responses. No wonder D3 never refunds or treat their customer like. People whine but nobody every mobilises to take actions. Instead the army of free riders come out and demonise the ones trying to make a stand. Pointless arguing!!! Everyone seems to have gotten over it, life goes on until the next rip off and whine cycle and D3 knows they wont make a stand.
pmorcs wrote: I bought the bulk of the slots in my alliance (with money) and I voted "whiners". Just for the record. I have in no way reaped any of these supposed benefits as my alliance is almost all meatspace friends, who are by and large terrible at this game and uncommitted. Whatever, it's a game, it's about having fun. I chose to spend the money and that's on me. My entire alliance could have decided to quit this week and .. what? Am I robbed? No.
Maximus Punishus wrote: To put it simply: 1. Buyer + Seller make x agreement 2. Later agreement is not X anymore but Y 3. Buyer agreed to X - Y voids agreement because X non existent. 4. Agreement was for X and if X dont exist the contract is broken. Thats what we learn here before they release us out in that world of corporation thieves and yes it dont even need to be on paper here it can be emotional and in our minds for as long as we can prove it. As simple as that, stop playing with words.
pmorcs wrote: You make a lot of assumptions. Wrong ones. Maximus Punishus wrote: pmorcs wrote: Nothing was taken away from you. Except maybe vowels. Free rider ?? All free riders seem to always have shallow one line responses. No wonder D3 never refunds or treat their customer like. People whine but nobody every mobilises to take actions. Instead the army of free riders come out and demonise the ones trying to make a stand. Pointless arguing!!! Everyone seems to have gotten over it, life goes on until the next rip off and whine cycle and D3 knows they wont make a stand. ... pmorcs wrote: I bought the bulk of the slots in my alliance (with money) and I voted "whiners". Just for the record. I have in no way reaped any of these supposed benefits as my alliance is almost all meatspace friends, who are by and large terrible at this game and uncommitted. Whatever, it's a game, it's about having fun. I chose to spend the money and that's on me. My entire alliance could have decided to quit this week and .. what? Am I robbed? No.