Anniversary? Not so much!

GothicKratos

Maybe it's just me, but rubberbanding seems extremely minimal this time around (or it might be because it's just starting?).

Bowgentle

GothicKratos wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but rubberbanding seems extremely minimal this time around (or it might be because it's just starting?).

If it's anything like the last events, it won't kick in until you are 10K behind the leader.
With the top grinders at 16K you won't see much RB until later.

But don't worry, since there's no subs, RB will insane in the last few hours. Which is exactly the reason heroics without subs are the worst of a really bad sort of PVE.

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GothicKratos wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but rubberbanding seems extremely minimal this time around (or it might be because it's just starting?).

I think it is various factor that keep people from pushing too hard in order for the rubberband to kick in:

- Not good progression rewards (For an anniversary event)
- Another Heroic with extremely bad choice of featured characters (Only good playble one is Thor**)
- CA sounds more fun to participate in than another Heroic

So people (Including me) are taking it slow and are trying to get the most out of that Thor they have in order to do the most rewarding nodes. I am not even going for full clears this time around. I just do essentials and clear the ones with 1 vilain and 2 goons or 3 goons. If there is 2 vilains I wont bother. The fight will be so slow and health consuming that I will hate every second of it.

GothicKratos

I managed to roll past the Thor progression a few minutes ago. I probably won't be able to get anything else, except maybe the next mark (which is ISO, I think),

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I'm frankly amazed that they didn't roll out the Gauntlet again for Anniversary week. People loved that event and if the rewards were good enough then I could absolutely see people busting out a few HP for health packs or boosts to clear the final few nodes.

Anyways, more Gauntlet plix.

Unknown

I guess I still do not get what all the griping is about. There are anniversary events all week. If players wanted a pve for the entire week, they should have chosen one that lasts longer than 2.5 days. Players voted and chose DP versus which is a 2.5 day event. That was the anniversary PVE. There is no second anniversary PVE. The heroic PVE was just a filler to provide players that prefer PVE over PVP an event to play and bridge the gap to the regular PVE that will probably start on Friday.

There were three voted PVP's: DP, CA, and BOP. The anniversary "present" to players were the events themselves that players voted on and requested to play. Anything prizes or rewards above that is just a bonus.

People are upset because dino was going to be given all week. They made it very clear that Dino was going to be in the Anniversary Packs. The packs are available all week (and I do not mean via purchase). Depending on your level of play, you will reach the progressive(s) anniversary packs at different points during the week.

The week is capped on Thursday with the Goddess Thor Lightning Rounds.

Again as advertised, explicitly and specifically, several times: The anniversary was to feature player voted events (check), have anniversary packs with a chance to win Devil Dino (check), and have an event to play Goddess Thor (will be a check in two days).

Everything else that they have provided has been extra (aka in addition) to what was promised.

The free anniversary token, progressive anniversary tokens, Dino rewards in a PVP and progressive, double iso, etc. These were not promised. These were extra things because they were being nice.

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about. On behalf of those who have been having fun and grateful for everything, let me say thank you for your best efforts to ruin everyone elses good time. We really do not get much in the way of extra compensation, and the one time they do, you decide to blast them for it. Why would they have future functions like this if all there going to get is grief in return?

The truth is simple in this case. MPQ has actually gotten this right (this time). The real problem is that some people (because it is pretty much the same people every time) have to find something wrong or some personal slight to complain about something. Well guess what? There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time.

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stephen43084 wrote:

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about.

It is another thing to be satisfied by what they offered this Anniversary, but when you say this, I really cannot understand where it is coming from. I would really like to know your roster and the days you play in the game. I am just curious to see where this is coming from.

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stephen43084 wrote:

I guess I still do not get what all the griping is about. There are anniversary events all week. If players wanted a pve for the entire week, they should have chosen one that lasts longer than 2.5 days. Players voted and chose DP versus which is a 2.5 day event. That was the anniversary PVE. There is no second anniversary PVE. The heroic PVE was just a filler to provide players that prefer PVE over PVP an event to play and bridge the gap to the regular PVE that will probably start on Friday.

There were three voted PVP's: DP, CA, and BOP. The anniversary "present" to players were the events themselves that players voted on and requested to play. Anything prizes or rewards above that is just a bonus.

People are upset because dino was going to be given all week. They made it very clear that Dino was going to be in the Anniversary Packs. The packs are available all week (and I do not mean via purchase). Depending on your level of play, you will reach the progressive(s) anniversary packs at different points during the week.

The week is capped on Thursday with the Goddess Thor Lightning Rounds.

Again as advertised, explicitly and specifically, several times: The anniversary was to feature player voted events (check), have anniversary packs with a chance to win Devil Dino (check), and have an event to play Goddess Thor (will be a check in two days).

Everything else that they have provided has been extra (aka in addition) to what was promised.

The free anniversary token, progressive anniversary tokens, Dino rewards in a PVP and progressive, double iso, etc. These were not promised. These were extra things because they were being nice.

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about. On behalf of those who have been having fun and grateful for everything, let me say thank you for your best efforts to ruin everyone elses good time. We really do not get much in the way of extra compensation, and the one time they do, you decide to blast them for it. Why would they have future functions like this if all there going to get is grief in return?

The truth is simple in this case. MPQ has actually gotten this right (this time). The real problem is that some people (because it is pretty much the same people every time) have to find something wrong or some personal slight to complain about something. Well guess what? There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time.

Over the last few days, there has been legit complaints, insane whining, and some plain old venting. Overall, I would say that the anniversary was successful. Your post is very thorough and well thought out. I think that saying "There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time." is a bit of a stretch since at the very least everyone can see that the popup is misleading. And there are other issues I don't want to rehash. I realize that the forums are bursting with posts from the last few days, but if you weed through them you can find other good points as well.

Actually, I just thought of another, just to throw out there. The Deadpool PvP had record scores. I think I saw a screenshot in which 10th place had 1800 points. So as a Dev I am sitting here and saying "We are going to have Anniversary token rewards for only ONE PvP. Should we put the rewards with the PvP that 3* rosters will excel at (Deadpool) OR with one of the PvPs that rewards diverse rosters and gives a chance to 2* players as well. (BoP, CA).

So the 3* power players get the best Anniversary Season Rewards, the 3000 points Anniversary 10pack that most 2* wont get, AND the prized Anniversary PvP rewards. Even as a strong 3* player I can see how this would lead to negativity. Especially since transition players have a bad enough time competing with 3* rosters every day of the year, it would have been nice if ONE thing was catered to everyone equally. And no, the free token doesn't count because many people were unlucky. And the 50HP token IS a great deal, but it doesn't matter if you don't have HP to begin with.

51 Weeks out of the year I will advocate that 3* rosters have earned the right to dominate the field. They have put in the time and/or resources. But 2* rosters shouldn't have had to compete for the chance to taste the virtual cake at a celebration. You say the Devs gave extra things just because they are nice. I agree. But not on a level playing field. Some people are walking away with nice things, while others are walking away remembering that they had a chance at nice things. OK for competition, disappointing for a celebration.

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Okin107 wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about.

It is another thing to be satisfied by what they offered this Anniversary, but when you say this, I really cannot understand where it is coming from. I would really like to know your roster and the days you play in the game. I am just curious to see where this is coming from.

First, having a problem with the game itself is totally different that having a problem with the anniversary events. If you have a problem with transitioning, I can empathize with that. However, that has nothing to do with the anniversary events or what they have offered.

Second, my roster is available to be viewed by any one at any time. I put my IGN and Alliance name in my signature. I'm proud of the long hours and time I have put into the game. For the most part, it's been fun.

Third, I've already been where you are now. Ironically, most veteran rosters have. You can say it is harder now than before, I'd agree with that. But to use this as a red herring argument against the anniversary events is just plain wrong.

You can say whatever you want about me, MPQ, or other players. The only point is the anniversary events have been far more generous than any one could have expected.

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stephen43084 wrote:

Okin107 wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about.

It is another thing to be satisfied by what they offered this Anniversary, but when you say this, I really cannot understand where it is coming from. I would really like to know your roster and the days you play in the game. I am just curious to see where this is coming from.

First, having a problem with the game itself is totally different that having a problem with the anniversary events. If you have a problem with transitioning, I can empathize with that. However, that has nothing to do with the anniversary events or what they have offered.

Second, my roster is available to be viewed by any one at any time. I put my IGN and Alliance name in my signature. I'm proud of the long hours and time I have put into the game. For the most part, it's been fun.

Third, I've already been where you are now. Ironically, most veteran rosters have. You can say it is harder now than before, I'd agree with that. But to use this as a red herring argument against the anniversary events is just plain wrong.

You can say whatever you want about me, MPQ, or other players. The only point is the anniversary events have been far more generous than any one could have expected.

Who are you talking to? It seems you are addressing my post but have quoted Okin. But it can't be my post because you speak to me like I am a transition player when I obviously posted that I have a strong 3* roster. I am so confused.

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Paintsville wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

I guess I still do not get what all the griping is about. There are anniversary events all week. If players wanted a pve for the entire week, they should have chosen one that lasts longer than 2.5 days. Players voted and chose DP versus which is a 2.5 day event. That was the anniversary PVE. There is no second anniversary PVE. The heroic PVE was just a filler to provide players that prefer PVE over PVP an event to play and bridge the gap to the regular PVE that will probably start on Friday.

There were three voted PVP's: DP, CA, and BOP. The anniversary "present" to players were the events themselves that players voted on and requested to play. Anything prizes or rewards above that is just a bonus.

People are upset because dino was going to be given all week. They made it very clear that Dino was going to be in the Anniversary Packs. The packs are available all week (and I do not mean via purchase). Depending on your level of play, you will reach the progressive(s) anniversary packs at different points during the week.

The week is capped on Thursday with the Goddess Thor Lightning Rounds.

Again as advertised, explicitly and specifically, several times: The anniversary was to feature player voted events (check), have anniversary packs with a chance to win Devil Dino (check), and have an event to play Goddess Thor (will be a check in two days).

Everything else that they have provided has been extra (aka in addition) to what was promised.

The free anniversary token, progressive anniversary tokens, Dino rewards in a PVP and progressive, double iso, etc. These were not promised. These were extra things because they were being nice.

Despite MPQ keeping all their promises and going way beyond what they promised, some people on here always have to find something to gripe about. On behalf of those who have been having fun and grateful for everything, let me say thank you for your best efforts to ruin everyone elses good time. We really do not get much in the way of extra compensation, and the one time they do, you decide to blast them for it. Why would they have future functions like this if all there going to get is grief in return?

The truth is simple in this case. MPQ has actually gotten this right (this time). The real problem is that some people (because it is pretty much the same people every time) have to find something wrong or some personal slight to complain about something. Well guess what? There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time.

Over the last few days, there has been legit complaints, insane whining, and some plain old venting. Overall, I would say that the anniversary was successful. Your post is very thorough and well thought out. I think that saying "There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time." is a bit of a stretch since at the very least everyone can see that the popup is misleading. And there are other issues I don't want to rehash. I realize that the forums are bursting with posts from the last few days, but if you weed through them you can find other good points as well.

Actually, I just thought of another, just to throw out there. The Deadpool PvP had record scores. I think I saw a screenshot in which 10th place had 1800 points. So as a Dev I am sitting here and saying "We are going to have Anniversary token rewards for only ONE PvP. Should we put the rewards with the PvP that 3* rosters will excel at (Deadpool) OR with one of the PvPs that rewards diverse rosters and gives a chance to 2* players as well. (BoP, CA).

So the 3* power players get the best Anniversary Season Rewards, the 3000 points Anniversary 10pack that most 2* wont get, AND the prized Anniversary PvP rewards. Even as a strong 3* player I can see how this would lead to negativity. Especially since transition players have a bad enough time competing with 3* rosters every day of the year, it would have been nice if ONE thing was catered to everyone equally. And no, the free token doesn't count because many people were unlucky. And the 50HP token IS a great deal, but it doesn't matter if you don't have HP to begin with.

51 Weeks out of the year I will advocate that 3* rosters have earned the right to dominate the field. They have put in the time and/or resources. But 2* rosters shouldn't have had to compete for the chance to taste the virtual cake at a celebration. You say the Devs gave extra things just because they are nice. I agree. But not on a level playing field. Some people are walking away with nice things, while others are walking away remembering that they had a chance at nice things. OK for competition, disappointing for a celebration.

I do not disagree with any of that. However, if you do not remember from the last BOP or CA, they winners of those events will pretty much be the same names as the DP one. I've said this in alliance chat, I thought it would have been good to offer Dino rewards in a PVP and PVE so there would be a more balanced opportunity to win the rewards (and there still might be Dino rewards in BOP, we'll find out tomorrow. And why waste a week being upset, if it turns out there is nothing to be upset about. People can always rant later.). However, to take that one aspect and make it out to be the "be all" for the entire event is wrong. And I do not want to hear about the Pop Up is misleading from any one here. If non-forumites want to say that, they have a fair argument. However, we were explicitly told what this week was, so we do not have that excuse.

My contention is really simple. MPQ did everything they told us they would and went way beyond that. So from strictly an Anniversary perspective, there is really nothing to complain about. That veteran rosters have an unfair advantage in winning PVP's is argument with the game itself and not unique to the Anniversary. This is a fallacious red herring argument. If you want to say the game overall needs improvement for PVP that's one thing, to use that as excuse to try and undermine a totally different subject is just wrong.

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stephen43084 wrote:

The truth is simple in this case. MPQ has actually gotten this right (this time). The real problem is that some people (because it is pretty much the same people every time) have to find something wrong or some personal slight to complain about something. Well guess what? There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time.

stephen43084 wrote:

I do not disagree with any of that. However, if you do not remember from the last BOP or CA, they winners of those events will pretty much be the same names as the DP one. I've said this in alliance chat, I thought it would have been good to offer Dino rewards in a PVP and PVE so there would be a more balanced opportunity to win the rewards....

Both of the above quotes are snippets of 2 posts by stephen43084. I did my best to keep the context the same. If anyone feels that I did not, let me know and I will edit. Thank you.

In quote one you say there is nothing to complain about.

In quote two you say that it would have been good to offer Dino rewards in PvP and PvE for a more balanced opportunity to win.

So please correct me if I am wrong, but you DID see something that could have been done differently. You choose not to complain, because you feel that the generosity in other aspects of the anniversary compensate. I actually agree with you. But this is what it is all about. What bothers me might bother you. What bothers me may not bother you. What doesn't bother me may bother the 80,000 other players in the game. I completely and totally respect your opinion that the anniversary was perfect. But to some people, it wasn't perfect.

When someone makes a comment that says "D3 delivered on everything they promised", I agree with them. But the point is that the delivery was flawed and some people had a less enjoyable time than others. And when people perceive that they have been slighted, they SHOULD stand up and say "Excuse me, but this isn't cool". Of course, on the flip side of the coin, some people took it too far and fell into whining and ranting. But some of the people have legit complaints, and telling them "You have no reason to complain" is unfair, especially when many posts give well thought out reasons as to why they are complaining.

GrumpySmurf1002

stephen43084 wrote:

MPQ did everything they told us they would and went way beyond that. So from strictly an Anniversary perspective, there is really nothing to complain about.

Their in-game pop says Dino would be available in events all week; he's not.
Somewhere it was said (I can't find a link, so maybe it wasn't official) that Anniversary Tokens were replacing the regular tokens all week; they haven't.

Those are my points of contention. There's a lot of good, sure, and I'm sure participation in all events is quite high. Doesn't mean it doesn't feel like the missed the boat in a few places.

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Paintsville wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

The truth is simple in this case. MPQ has actually gotten this right (this time). The real problem is that some people (because it is pretty much the same people every time) have to find something wrong or some personal slight to complain about something. Well guess what? There was nothing, zero, zilch, etc. to complain about this time.

stephen43084 wrote:

I do not disagree with any of that. However, if you do not remember from the last BOP or CA, they winners of those events will pretty much be the same names as the DP one. I've said this in alliance chat, I thought it would have been good to offer Dino rewards in a PVP and PVE so there would be a more balanced opportunity to win the rewards....

Both of the above quotes are snippets of 2 posts by stephen43084. I did my best to keep the context the same. If anyone feels that I did not, let me know and I will edit. Thank you.

In quote one you say there is nothing to complain about.

In quote two you say that it would have been good to offer Dino rewards in PvP and PvE for a more balanced opportunity to win.

So please correct me if I am wrong, but you DID see something that could have been done differently. You choose not to complain, because you feel that the generosity in other aspects of the anniversary compensate. I actually agree with you. But this is what it is all about. What bothers me might bother you. What bothers me may not bother you. What doesn't bother me may bother the 80,000 other players in the game. I completely and totally respect your opinion that the anniversary was perfect. But to some people, it wasn't perfect.

When someone makes a comment that says "D3 delivered on everything they promised", I agree with them. But the point is that the delivery was flawed and some people had a less enjoyable time than others. And when people perceive that they have been slighted, they SHOULD stand up and say "Excuse me, but this isn't cool". Of course, on the flip side of the coin, some people took it too far and fell into whining and ranting. But some of the people have legit complaints, and telling them "You have no reason to complain" is unfair, especially when many posts give well thought out reasons as to why they are complaining.

This is not a paradox. That's like winning a million dollars and then saying it would have been nice to have direct deposit so you don't have go down to the bank in person.

Hello? You won a million dollars, there's nothing to complain about that. The direct deposit is wishful thinking. It's not saying the million dollars sucks because it was not direct deposited. It's saying the only way it could get better than this if it had been direct deposited.

Same thing. There is nothing to complain about the Anniversary (I say while LR is mysteriously absent). When I say it would have been nice to make it more balanced for everyone to win, this is not saying the Anniversary events sucks or is a slap in the face because it is not more balanced. Rather, I'm saying the Anniversary is great and the only way it could have been better than this is if it had been (and again there may be more Dino rewards in BOP) more balanced for everyone.

I hope you can see the difference. I will not respond any further because I belive both you and Okin speak what others are feeling, but I thought it was equally valuable to try and express to those with similar views how others are viewing the anniversary events. I would like every one to have as much fun as possible (even if it is not ideally how much you would like) because this ain't happening again any time soon. There will be plent of time to look at the shortcomings and the way the week could have been improved afterwards, when we have seen what has transpired over the entire week. I've said in another thread, I may also pick up a pitchfork and join y'all depending on things continue to unfold (I say as again the LR's are noticably absent).

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GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

stephen43084 wrote:

MPQ did everything they told us they would and went way beyond that. So from strictly an Anniversary perspective, there is really nothing to complain about.

Their in-game pop says Dino would be available in events all week; he's not.
Somewhere it was said (I can't find a link, so maybe it wasn't official) that Anniversary Tokens were replacing the regular tokens all week; they haven't.

Those are my points of contention. There's a lot of good, sure, and I'm sure participation in all events is quite high. Doesn't mean it doesn't feel like the missed the boat in a few places.

Again, the progressive anniversary token rewards will be won at different paces all week. And again, can we at least wait until we see the rewards for BOP before we come to the conclusion Dino will not be a reward again? From what I hear, that is the event (if they were going to put him in as a reward again) that players seem to want him to be the reward for any way.

GrumpySmurf1002

stephen43084 wrote:

Again, the progressive anniversary token rewards will be won at different paces all week. And again, can we at least wait until we see the rewards for BOP before we come to the conclusion Dino will not be a reward again? From what I hear, that is the event (if they were going to put him in as a reward again) that players seem to want him to be the reward for any way.

The tokens in the current PvE and PvP are not anniversary tokens. Regardless of the overall 'anniversary season' progression, these tokens are not replaced and thus contradictory to what was said.

And regardless of whether Dino is or isn't in BoP, he's not playable or available in the current events, which is contradictory to the in-game pop up.

What happens later doesn't change those contradictions.

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It says "Devil Dinosaur is in special Anniversary events all week long!"

1) It does not say Anniversary tokens every event.

2) It does not say Devil Dino in every Anniversary event during the week.

So, sadly, the pop-up is not misleading. Your expectations may have lead you to infer 1 and 2, and that would have been much, much cooler. But, I am also hoping Dino will show up in BOP (just like everyone else).

babinro

No offense to the OP but this was clearly a whine post.
Look, I get it...things could always be better, but this is clearly an anniversary feeling event.

- New 4* character with covers that are MUCH MUCH easier to obtain than any we've ever seen. This is HUGE.
- PvP that had 4* character as cover rewards beyond simply 1st place or 1300 progression. HUGE.
- Double ISO for an entire week. HUGE.
- First sale I've seen as a steam player in maybe 7 months. HUGE.
- Player chosen events. Good stuff.
- A mini-season that still has some great rewards in both progression and placement. HUGE.

I'm not about to mistake this week for our typical week of playing MPQ.
Thanks to D3 for doing this.

Edit: Now if you'll excuse me...I have 5 health packs to lose in the next 10 minutes trying to clear out 2 or more Venom:Heroic PvE nodes. You'd think having a maxed out Mohawk and GSBW would help but it doesn't. Glass cannons next to my level 180 opponents.

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I was researching GT LR. Apparently, there was supposed to be Anniversary tokens in CA. So, we'll have to see what MPQ has to say about it (apparently it will be by smoke signal or carrier pigeon).

"•Fan-picked PVP and PvE events! These events will reward special Anniversary Pack Tokens that include.."

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We are kinda missing Lightning rounds. Double ISO is nice and all, but if there is no LR, then the net gain could easily be the same as without double ISO and running LR. Hoping this is not the case.