Anniversary? Not so much!
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stephen43084 wrote:HailMary wrote:
Of course, though that depends on the actual point being made, so I can see why you might find yourself on the wrong side of that.MikeHock wrote:^
Mary, do you ever make an attempt to sympathize with a person before siding with D3?
I think that making the PVE progression tokens non-Anniversary was a stupid mistake, especially for something as visible as an Anniversary event. Same goes for copy-pasting old CA PVP rewards into the Anniversary week: stupid mistake. Those mistakes aside, I'm liking the Anniversary a good bit.
Flailing about how the devs should go backrupt because your roster doesn't account for the nature of Heroic PVEs? How laughably absurd.
You all act like they had a choice for the pve. The fan voted was dp vs. Therefore, to not have a gap, heroic pve was the only real choice aside from no pve. Y'all do remember the truncated hulk pve and hire bad that was, right?
We've recently done so for heroics, do it was going to be a recent one. Due to the time, it was going to be over without sub's. I rather venom than juggs. As far as roster restrictions, yes, it's a heroic, it'll be restricted.
As far as CA tokens or rewards, you can give them a little more than 6 business hours to determine if there was a problem and what course if any they want to use to address it.
You had me all the way till "6 Business Hours".
This isn't a call center fielding thousands of questions a day. I realize they have things to do, but 6 hours is more than enough to answer ONE question. And I am not even saying FIX the problem. 6 hours to ANSWER, heck ACKNOWLEDGE a question? Ridiculous.
I realize that it may be a holiday for them. But if it wasn't a holiday, then a 6 hour response time to a question during business hours is laughable.0 -
I understand that people are upset. What I don't understand is why. The anniversary events are not over yet. We still have a few days left. Also, the events being used by D3 are the ones that players selected in the facebook polls. You can't really get angry at D3 when we are the ones that voted for this event. If you didn't vote for it, then I'm sorry you are stuck with an event that you don't care for. But it was one of the events picked.
Getting upset at this point just doesn't make much sense to me when there's still a bit more to go.0 -
Paintsville wrote:stephen43084 wrote:HailMary wrote:
Of course, though that depends on the actual point being made, so I can see why you might find yourself on the wrong side of that.MikeHock wrote:^
Mary, do you ever make an attempt to sympathize with a person before siding with D3?
I think that making the PVE progression tokens non-Anniversary was a stupid mistake, especially for something as visible as an Anniversary event. Same goes for copy-pasting old CA PVP rewards into the Anniversary week: stupid mistake. Those mistakes aside, I'm liking the Anniversary a good bit.
Flailing about how the devs should go backrupt because your roster doesn't account for the nature of Heroic PVEs? How laughably absurd.
You all act like they had a choice for the pve. The fan voted was dp vs. Therefore, to not have a gap, heroic pve was the only real choice aside from no pve. Y'all do remember the truncated hulk pve and hire bad that was, right?
We've recently done so for heroics, do it was going to be a recent one. Due to the time, it was going to be over without sub's. I rather venom than juggs. As far as roster restrictions, yes, it's a heroic, it'll be restricted.
As far as CA tokens or rewards, you can give them a little more than 6 business hours to determine if there was a problem and what course if any they want to use to address it.
You had me all the way till "6 Business Hours".
This isn't a call center fielding thousands of questions a day. I realize they have things to do, but 6 hours is more than enough to answer ONE question. And I am not even saying FIX the problem. 6 hours to ANSWER, heck ACKNOWLEDGE a question? Ridiculous.
I realize that it may be a holiday for them. But if it wasn't a holiday, then a 6 hour response time to a question during business hours is laughable.
You do realize a good portion of their team (especially the forum team) was at comic con. The event ended late yesterday, so they are most probably on their way back today. I'm not sure how other companies do it, but most companies I have worked for do not make decisions without the requisite personnel present. I'm sure you're observant and have noticed there have been no red names online at the bottom of the forum screen today. When I start seeing red names and no responses, I may pick up my pitchfork and join you.0 -
JCTthe3rd81 wrote:I understand that people are upset. What I don't understand is why. The anniversary events are not over yet. We still have a few days left. Also, the events being used by D3 are the ones that players selected in the facebook polls. You can't really get angry at D3 when we are the ones that voted for this event. If you didn't vote for it, then I'm sorry you are stuck with an event that you don't care for. But it was one of the events picked.
Getting upset at this point just doesn't make much sense to me when there's still a bit more to go.
I'm pretty sure heroic:Venom was not one of the winning events. But in any case, I'm not angry at the event, just that the rewards are not anniversary rewards as promised. Chalk it up to poor communication or people being whinny, greedy, or entitled but the fact remains that if you don't keep your promises it raises discord and mistrust among the people your promising it to. A two day long "week" celebration falls into this category.0 -
JCTthe3rd81 wrote:You can't really get angry at D3 when we are the ones that voted for this event. If you didn't vote for it, then I'm sorry you are stuck with an event that you don't care for. But it was one of the events picked.
I haven't really seen complaints about Combined Arms aside from the tokens. Yes, some were blocked out, but we've known for a while Combined Arms was coming, that's enough time to build a Juggernaut or Venom to use.
It's the not voted for Venom Heroic w/ the non-Anniversary themed rewards that seems to be feeding the anger, and can't entirely blame them.
I get the argument that they're on a timetable so long events like Simulator are out, but the Gauntlet had a lot more positive feedback than any Heroic, and could easily have been run 13th-17th, with Dino and/or a 10-pack as prizes. I'm fairly confident that had they run Gauntlet in time for the facebook polls, it would've finished higher than Simulator or Hulk. (nothing was beating Deadpool).0 -
Anniversary has been a ton a fun with lots or ISO and awards to be had. I'm not the biggest fan of combined arms but it allows a lot of people to play. They are still giving out double ISO for heroic. No reason to complain.0
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stephen43084 wrote:You all act like they had a choice for the pve. The fan voted was dp vs. Therefore, to not have a gap, heroic pve was the only real choice aside from no pve. Y'all do remember the truncated hulk pve and how bad that was, right?
We've recently done all the heroic pve's, so it was going to be a recent one. Due to the time constraint (a new one probably starts Friday), it was going to be one without sub's. I rather venom than juggs. As far as roster restrictions, yes, it's a heroic, it'll be restricted.
As far as CA tokens or rewards go, you can give them a little more than 6 business hours to determine if there was a problem and what course if any they want to use to address it prior to making an announcement.
They could easily do a truncated simulator. Two subs instead of three, done.0 -
CrookedKnight wrote:stephen43084 wrote:You all act like they had a choice for the pve. The fan voted was dp vs. Therefore, to not have a gap, heroic pve was the only real choice aside from no pve. Y'all do remember the truncated hulk pve and how bad that was, right?
We've recently done all the heroic pve's, so it was going to be a recent one. Due to the time constraint (a new one probably starts Friday), it was going to be one without sub's. I rather venom than juggs. As far as roster restrictions, yes, it's a heroic, it'll be restricted.
As far as CA tokens or rewards go, you can give them a little more than 6 business hours to determine if there was a problem and what course if any they want to use to address it prior to making an announcement.
They could easily do a truncated simulator. Two subs instead of three, done.
Didn't they do that once before even?0 -
stephen43084 wrote:
You do realize a good portion of their team (especially the forum team) was at comic con. The event ended late yesterday, so they are most probably on their way back today. I'm not sure how other companies do it, but most companies I have worked for do not make decisions without the requisite personnel present. I'm sure you're observant and have noticed there have been no red names online at the bottom of the forum screen today. When I start seeing red names and no responses, I may pick up my pitchfork and join you.
Not one person in the entire department knows what is going on in the forums so they can post:
"Hey guys, we are on the way back from Comic-Con so are unable to give any details as to what happened or what is going on. We just wanted to let you know that we are on it as soon as we get back to work on *insert date here*."
Not sure if that makes me feel better.0 -
GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:JCTthe3rd81 wrote:You can't really get angry at D3 when we are the ones that voted for this event. If you didn't vote for it, then I'm sorry you are stuck with an event that you don't care for. But it was one of the events picked.
I haven't really seen complaints about Combined Arms aside from the tokens. Yes, some were blocked out, but we've known for a while Combined Arms was coming, that's enough time to build a Juggernaut or Venom to use.
It's the not voted for Venom Heroic w/ the non-Anniversary themed rewards that seems to be feeding the anger, and can't entirely blame them.
I get the argument that they're on a timetable so long events like Simulator are out, but the Gauntlet had a lot more positive feedback than any Heroic, and could easily have been run 13th-17th, with Dino and/or a 10-pack as prizes. I'm fairly confident that had they run Gauntlet in time for the facebook polls, it would've finished higher than Simulator or Hulk. (nothing was beating Deadpool).
Simulator could have been run as three 36 hour subs and still fit the timetable.0 -
Like I already said. I am not annoyed because we have another Heroic. What I am frustrated about is that even on the anniversary events we have restricted roster with **** rewards. So, all I want to point out here is that this is not a party. It is just another normal day in MPQ with some announced but fake excitement.
Maybe I was a bit harsh in way of expressing this on the 1st post. But it was just another Monday at work and I came home only to find myself getting even more frustrated because I cannot play the game that supposedly relaxes me from some of the stress. So yeah, that took me off my couch and made me type this thread. Some of the things in the OP may sound ridiculous and non related to what I wanted to say, but that was frustration that clearly did not come out of nowhere.
I just hate the fact that they said "Get excited for stuff!" and then this is what we get. It just feels like a half lie to me (I say half because the first events they delivered and I also got my Trex covers). The continuation of the 2nd part is just nothing to be hyped or excited about. They just under delivered the 2nd PVE. They still have one more to go. Hope they make the most of it.
PS: I thank my alliance for being very supportive. Honestly, they are what keeps me logging in every day in this game.0 -
CrookedKnight wrote:stephen43084 wrote:You all act like they had a choice for the pve. The fan voted was dp vs. Therefore, to not have a gap, heroic pve was the only real choice aside from no pve. Y'all do remember the truncated hulk pve and how bad that was, right?
We've recently done all the heroic pve's, so it was going to be a recent one. Due to the time constraint (a new one probably starts Friday), it was going to be one without sub's. I rather venom than juggs. As far as roster restrictions, yes, it's a heroic, it'll be restricted.
As far as CA tokens or rewards go, you can give them a little more than 6 business hours to determine if there was a problem and what course if any they want to use to address it prior to making an announcement.
They could easily do a truncated simulator. Two subs instead of three, done.
I got no clue what they would have to do for that. Maybe it would take two seconds to do it, maybe not (I can almost program my DVR correctly everytime now). However, I rather they develop characters like Goddess Thor than spend time working on old PVE's.
Granted, I'm tired of Heroics, and I'm at a disadvantage in this PVe, but we should have all known when DP versus go voted as the PVE it was going to either be a double of that (which is unlikely since they just ran it a week or so ago) or a heroic pve. I'm just thankful the Heroic pve is not for a new character when I'm this great of a disadvantage.0 -
I had not looked at the awards for Heroic or CA until I read some these posts. Now I get why some people are upset. IIRC, D3 did say all heroic and event tokens would be replaced with anniversary tokens this week. I might be mistaken, I'll have to check the previous announcements for details. But thats what I remember the announcements saying. So, yeah, now I see why some people are getting upset. But still, please keep in mind, the anniversary is not over yet.0
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The fact that the tokens are not anniversary tokens is about the only thing I am even somewhat frustrated about.
The other thing was the Ragnarok covers in the PvP... as those are generally unpopular overall. I had assumed (possibly incorrectly) that there were supposed to be Devil Dino covers for the PvP rewards in each event throughout the anniversary, since he was released as a "fun" anniversary character, and other than the 365 day reward, I don't forsee any reliable way to obtain him.
My assumption is that those who pay attention to the forums regularly are busy at the NYCC, and haven't seen the forums since the events went live. Depending on when they get to them, they may be able to correct it, or send bonus anniversary tokens in to everyone to make up for it after the fact. With regards to the heroic PvE, those who are unable to participate meaningfully may unfortunately have to sit out the event. This would have been the case regardless of whether it was an anniversary event or not. I understand the frustration considering it is an anniversary week to have a limited roster event, but it is the reality of the situation, ultimately.0 -
My thinking is that they already have enough new players from word of mouth referrals from the awesome opening few days and can now go back to the same old same old0
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If you say you are having a week of stuff, you make it a week of stuff, not a week in some areas, a couple of days in others, etc. etc.
This comes down to three things.
They have not actually placed a week's worth of anniversary themed content in the game. Gees, Venom : Heroic (Anniversary) with even the minorest of better progression rewards. Done, easy. Token, but done. Top PvP players are getting a good deal this week, but going to be a struggle for everyone else.
The execution of the tokens has been shocking and inequitable - some people are getting all sorts of crazy good stuff and some people are getting 2* covers. It's a freaking birthday party with guests, you don't give some good stuff and others squat. Instead of whatever they ended up doing, there should have been a standard (and surprise) giving to all, spread over the week. Here was an idea: Day 1 - Dino Green, Day 2 - 100HP, Day 3 - 1000 ISO, Day 4 - Dino Red, Day 5 - 3 Health Packs, Day 6 - another hit of HP or ISO, Day 7 - Dino Purple. This alone would have been enough and everyone would have gained fairly and evenly. If you want your double or half more ISO, that's fine too. You say you are having a week long thing, you stick in a week's worth of stuff.
They are terrible at communicating and between their PR, their planning, their online community, there is just no consistency (apart from nothing) or clarity within their own message. You should bring some of us (outside to you) forum people on, to pass over your messages before you send them out. They need a more objective, critical and questioning eye.0 -
I am very conflicted over this situation.
On the one hand, I find it absolutely hilarious that anyone would expend the energy to be that angry about a match 3 game.
On the other hand, I am so jealous that you have this much energy to expend being angry about a match 3 game.
Then again, it makes me feel incredibly normal. I mean, you have to be nuts to keep doing something that so enrages you. That means I must not be as crazy as I thought I was.
But what if you took the energy you have spent being angry at MPQ and got angry about something really substantial - like how many people die decades earlier than they have to just for lack of clean water. That kind of energy could have serious impact.
Except that is just waaaaaaay too serious and it's more fun to imagine you as a rage monster over MPQ. It's like your a match 3 Hulk.
Now I'm sad. Because a rage monster over MPQ is like being a tiny, little Hulk. Lots of sound and fury but no real substance. What a pathetic existence.
Which makes me happy because it's you and not me. I can go on being blissfully oblivious to the gross injustices that a match 3 game inflicts upon the more aware and enlightened among us.
Oh dear. It appears I've snapped and fallen into an endless loop of meaningless philosophical ramblings about the import of virtual game rage.
This is all D3's fault. If they had not created MPQ then I would never had played the game. I would never have found this board and I would certainly never have fallen into my own personal well of insanity. Yes, I blame D3 totally for this.
How dare they????0 -
I'm just upset I wasn't told about the party.0
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I don't understand this mentality...
Here is what they promised:
-A week of celebrations
-Player chosen events (DP PvE, Combined Arms, BoP, DP PvP)
-Introduction of Devil Dino 4*
-Small token for logging in
Here is what we got:
-A week of double iso in all events
-DP PvE, Combined Arms, DP PvP and most likely BoP in 2 days.
-Introduction of Devil Dino 4*
-Anniversary Token for logging in
They gave everything they said they would give. And, personally, way more than what I was expecting. I definitely didn't expect the cheap, daily high % tokens, or the anniversary PvP season and progression.
Everything you think is "missing" about the event is your entitlement speaking.0 -
I'd say its more like taking drugs. You know that it's very bad for you and only gives you a short high for permanent lows. But you can't give it up because you depend on it to give you the kicks. You are enraged because you think they should be able to make it both permanently enjoyable(fun for players) and healthy (make lots of money to sustain the game). Unfortunately drugs like that haven't been invented yet so in the mean time we'll keep going back to the game to get our kicks0
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