Punisher Required?

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  • the moose wrote:
    stuff.

    I agree, though speaking as someone who hasn't been locked out of a mission because of a required hero yet, I don't like this trend. I prefer giving people something that makes them to want to get the character in question, not preventing them from playing if they don't.
  • Misguided wrote:
    the moose wrote:
    stuff.

    I agree, though speaking as someone who hasn't been locked out of a mission because of a required hero yet, I don't like this trend. I prefer giving people something that makes them to want to get the character in question, not preventing them from playing if they don't.

    Seconded. And also as someone who hasn't been locked out yet. It may be advantageous for us, but it's a really bad precedent. icon_e_sad.gif
  • Zathrus wrote:
    Misguided wrote:
    the moose wrote:
    stuff.

    It may be advantageous for us, but it's a really bad precedent. icon_e_sad.gif

    I think that's the main part. We can now see what it's going to be like in the future.
  • For the record (OP here). I ended up buying it because I wanted to be able to compete for the Hulk. It is a very disturbing trend though. Personally I prefer games that encourage micro transactions. A few dollars a day as opposed to spending about $26 in one day especially during Steam sale.
  • I get why you did, even though I think it is a little crazy, but want to point out that if there are a lot of people doing so, it justifies (economically) what they are doing. I'm not picking on you, but we vote with our dollars, and you've just sent the message that this is ok.
  • I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.
  • I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    500 HP for a guaranteed punisher? That would throw the whole economy out of whack.
  • DumDumDugn wrote:
    I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    500 HP for a guaranteed punisher? That would throw the whole economy out of whack.

    Not necessarily. It depends on the rate at which new characters come out. Plus you still need more covers. They did guaranteed IM40 for 1100 HP which is less than 10 dollars.
  • Misguided wrote:
    DumDumDugn wrote:
    I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    500 HP for a guaranteed punisher? That would throw the whole economy out of whack.

    Not necessarily. It depends on the rate at which new characters come out. Plus you still need more covers.

    Punisher is a 3*. If they guaranteed you a 3* for 500 HP they're setting a dangerous precedent for themselves in the future.
  • Perhaps, but there is a long way between those two (like IM I added above).
  • _fulu_ wrote:
    Full disclosure, I broke down and bought a punisher icon_e_smile.gif

    Gulp, me too. icon_redface.gif Used up my accumulated HP on a guaranteed pack....
    Tried first using all my accumulated 20 heroic tokens: only unuseable 2*s and one Hood icon_cry.gif
    ...ah well, hopefully this event will give out a lot on HP so I can restock...
  • To be fair to them, they actually hand out to people who play earlier, so no point scolding the Dev that they are v. greedy.
    At least they give us a chance to work on punisher in the last event.
    (Imagine that's some games who just ask the gamers to buy the packs without them having any chances to get them at the early stages)

    As for the new ones who's coming in, I guess you guys just missed the early fun that's all.
    Imagine those early ones who manage to get hold of those Villains, they were lucky to play this game earlier.

    And things is, I guess almost everyone who's in this forum should at least have a hulk eventually - 10000 people.We got how many members here? 870 only.
    Do you think we got any chances get it? yes we do and most probably that 1500 people who are able to get all 3 cards.

    So no points cursing on Dev, just keep playing and enjoy the game.
    If you are able to afford the punisher or able to get them in the last event, good for you. If no, then just play as normal - after all this is a app-purchase game as well which they already mentioned it.
    In this stage of playing, you have either spend that extra to get the cards you want, work other ways round or just left behind and keep cursing till you give up on this game and eventually move on.

    Please do note that, doesn't mean you do not have the required characters you will lose out. There's other players who don't own them as well. I was one of those who doesn't own IW in Punisher event and still lucky enough to get his 2 covers in the event.
  • Having worked my nuts off in the hunt to win 3 Punishers I would be equally pissed if everyone was given a free Punisher! The Dev's are rewarding the winners with a chance to play with their prizes. If you didnt win one in the hunt just shut up and buy a pack! How you can expect to just be given a top prize is insane! 'What you sow - you shall reap' as my old school motto used to say!
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    Misguided wrote:
    DumDumDugn wrote:
    I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    500 HP for a guaranteed punisher? That would throw the whole economy out of whack.

    Not necessarily. It depends on the rate at which new characters come out. Plus you still need more covers. They did guaranteed IM40 for 1100 HP which is less than 10 dollars.
    A one use not-quite-daily special? And wasn't that one guaranteed spidey also 1100?
  • odds are even if the complainers had a punisher, they wouldnt be able to grind for 8 days straight to win the hulk .... or they'd have the punisher in teh first place. it's not the lack of punisher that doesn't let these people compete. it's the lack of being able to grind. a billion max level punishers won't fix that.

    i have the punisher and i didnt even play half the tournament.
  • There does seem to be an awful lot of whining going on these forums as of late.

    I get that in the Hunt, some of the rules weren't clear and some players got screwed (or rather they feel screwed). I didn't understand the rules any better than anybody else, but I played and grinded the missions daily and won 3 Punisher covers.

    In this new tournament, you don't need the punisher to get the Hulk. 10,000 players are going to get the Hulk! I imagine that anybody who invests time to come onto the forums is going to get a Hulk (simply due to the fact that forum goers are likely to play a little more than non-forum goers).

    You may not get 3 covers, but you'll likely get a Hulk. And you won't even have to put that much effort into it. But the system is going to allow the players who did well in the previous tournament to do well in this tournament (i.e. we may place higher and thus get 1-2 covers more than you).

    And in the end, what does that mean? Nothing! The Punisher is a neat character, and I ended up getting a 4th cover for him but that still puts him at 30th level max for me. He's really not that good, yet. When you get your Hulk, whether it's 1 or 3 covers, he won't be a game changer. You'll have to grind for more covers and put lots of ISO and HP into him to get him powerful.

    So enjoy the crazy ISO rewards, enjoy the story line and get your Hulk at the end of it.
  • i have the punisher and i didnt even play half the tournament.


    This is my problem with the whole thing.I and many others grinded like crazy during the hunt.In my bracket i was 1st for most of the week then come saturday and sunday was not even allowed to do missions for any pts at all due to the lousy rubber banding pt structure.Hours of hard work gone and many punishers given to folks who got them because they played much much less.This in of itself makes no sense at all to penalize hard core players like that.

    Now it seems that the earlier you started playing the better giving those who started playing earlier a huge leg up do to the way the missions reset and with time remaining.Just seems like a very bad way to due business when all we are asking is to be forthcoming with how the tournament is going to be allocated.Early or late.Entering a contest without knowing the rules is not something we do IRL so why would they do it to us here.

    I love the marvel universe,match 3 and i truly think this game is a amazing twist on alot of genres.I just feel they need to be alot more honest and direct with their customer base a so this doesnt turn into the match 3 version of Firefly.
  • HulkSmash wrote:
    Having worked my nuts off in the hunt to win 3 Punishers I would be equally pissed if everyone was given a free Punisher! The Dev's are rewarding the winners with a chance to play with their prizes. If you didnt win one in the hunt just shut up and buy a pack! How you can expect to just be given a top prize is insane! 'What you sow - you shall reap' as my old school motto used to say!

    Neither Misguided nor myself were suggesting that everyone should be given a free Punisher. But having a mission that prevents you from playing it if you didn't get one is bad, just as it was in The Hunt with Invisible BagWoman. And, again, I earned an IW and a Punisher (and fought particularly hard for the first, even though I knew her stats made her useless).

    Now with The Hunt you did have a chance to earn IW several times during it via other tournaments (Big Thunder; Bad is Good, Doctor is In). I wonder if they'll do the same with Punisher this time around, or if the only option will be to spend $20 for a single cover of him.

    And really, that's the thing -- spending $20 for a single guaranteed cover is absurd. Spending $5 is a bit silly too IMO, but I consider both of these to be more indicative of how utterly out of whack the "economy" is in the game.

    Again, I don't want free Punishers handed out; but I really, strongly dislike barring people from playing missions in events. Particularly when there was such a limited chance to get the required cover beforehand. If The Hunt and Hulk had happened a couple weeks later than they did, with more opportunities to get the required covers, then at least it wouldn't seem like such a money grab.

    I'm just thankful I don't have to participate in the money grab.
  • DumDumDugn wrote:
    I haven't spent any money myself and $20+ just for punisher is a little steep. If it were a little less, say $5 for a guaranteed punisher and that's it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    500 HP for a guaranteed punisher? That would throw the whole economy out of whack.

    He said $5, not 500HP. The economy is already messed up by all the free HP that they give out. HP was scarce early on and the $ to HP ratio made sense at that time. It seems like we get HP inflation everywhere (rewards, tokens, cover slots, direct upgrades when they went from 20 to 5 ability levels) except for the real money store.
  • Personally I could care less about having a punisher let alone getting one for free I just dont like being locked out of the mission more than anything. Lets be honest if he came up as a subbed character ala the missions needing wolverine this wouldnt be an issue.

    Not that im advocating it but allowing people to get one punisher cover so they can compete wouldnt hurt those who have him already, I dont see too many people using characters with one cover all that much.