Question for the X-men about motivation.

mohio

Jimilinho wrote:

The X-men scoring so high seems like a win/win for everyone. They spend money keeping D3 happy, and try make it A LOT EASIER to get progression rewards in the pvp's I can hit 1100/1200 without any max level guys, just riding off all the 40+ targets we have nowadays.

Just surprised this is still an issue.

In regards to sentry, I don't think he's OP, he's just really good on Defence,besides surely people don't want to see more nerfing.
Buff others, don't nerf!!

I don't think op or most people posting are really saying there's an issue. I think it was simply exactly what was stated, an inquiry into the motivation to put up such high point totals. I was pretty interested myself so thanks to those of you who answered honestly.

I'll reserve my sentry opinion until I can level him enough to start using him. My guess is the idea is that the 2 turn cd tiles plus the sacrifice tile being vulnerable is why the devs thought he would be okay, but 8+7 AP to *usually* win is still pretty amazing

ThatOneGuyjp189512

the motivation ultimately is to be the best, that's the easiest explaination, i know the feeling of wanting to beat my own score for the sake of besting myself. Personally i have no problem with the X-Men, as someone said, makes progression awards so much easier cause of the big targets and their insanely high scores basically moved up the base score of anyone who can beat their teams, i know from experience before season 4 my average was just over 1000, since this season started and their insane scores kind of helped everyone, my average is now around 1230(including an all time high unshielded score of 1233). they wanna spend money on this game? good for them.

Unknown

I can't speak for any other X-men, but my motivation is to have fun. I push my score because I am having fun with my teammates. We have a blast. Joining the x-men made this game infinitely more fun for me because everyone on the team is out to play not just take up roster space. Always words of encouragement and strategy (aside from use Sentry/Hood destroy all.

Unknown

mikeydollar7 wrote:

Well it's not a financial argument for sure - I have yet to hear anyone say they play mpq for monetary gain

We have competitive members and they like to score well for all sorts of reasons. Of course you have to spend some to go that high but there is still skill / fun / tension involved. And the top scorers have full rosters so there is no reason to stop just because they hit 1300. The alliance angle has a lot to do with it as Psyko said, I doubt we would go as high just playing individually.

Having said that a lot of us would like to see some changes in formats, characters etc as sentry-hopping is too dominant a strategy right now. Give us a new challenge we can work out how to be best at

I recall a Beee post months ago where he was asked a similar question and compared his 10 3-hour shields to the cost of seeing a movie I think it was. Folk tend to spend their money on what they enjoy, there are plenty of leisure activities I spend a lot more on than mpq! Starbucks gets more from me than mpq for example....

Think your referencing reck but agree somewhat.

Unknown

Kippo wrote:

I can't speak for any other X-men, but my motivation is to have fun. I push my score because I am having fun with my teammates. We have a blast. Joining the x-men made this game infinitely more fun for me because everyone on the team is out to play not just take up roster space. Always words of encouragement and strategy (aside from use Sentry/Hood destroy all.

I thought I told that using Sentry/Hood "kill them all let god mop up their blood and guts" was THE strategy. Try to keep up Kipp

Unknown

WorldRunner wrote:

I thought I told that using Sentry/Hood "kill them all let god mop up their blood and guts" was THE strategy. Try to keep up Kipp

No you said Bagman, X-Force, and Yelena were the best team. You mean you lied to me?

Unknown

papa07 wrote:

why4g wrote:

why are u even think that the x-men group is real players? Not AI?
and what makes u sure that some people who reply your post is real players? not crew from D3?

I know this kind of game use AI to make players can't reach the Top

You need to readjust the tinfoil, make sure the aliens can't read your mind. Everything's gonna be alright.

You Mad, kid? haha...

Unknown

Why would I spend 2000 HP to reach top spot?

1. You get HP back (100 from progression, 25-100 Personal rank, & 50-100 Alliance rank)
2. I want/need those 3* covers
3. Progression reward provides a 3* cover (to me, worth 1250 HP if I needed it).
4. [Hypothetically saying I'll always be TOP 25] I would get two 3* covers instead of one (worth increased 1250 HP)
5. I just like playing this game

So in total, I would be gaining 175-300HP and two additional covers that I want/need (2500).

Kelbris

ThatOneGuyjp189512 wrote:

the motivation ultimately is to be the best, that's the easiest explaination, i know the feeling of wanting to beat my own score for the sake of besting myself. Personally i have no problem with the X-Men, as someone said, makes progression awards so much easier cause of the big targets and their insanely high scores basically moved up the base score of anyone who can beat their teams, i know from experience before season 4 my average was just over 1000, since this season started and their insane scores kind of helped everyone, my average is now around 1230(including an all time high unshielded score of 1233). they wanna spend money on this game? good for them.

how can you be the best at a community single player game that doesn't have a level playing field?

you can't actually beat anyone in this game; just play more often than them

I'd give an example using actual video games, but I don't know what you actually play.

Unknown

Kelbris wrote:

ThatOneGuyjp189512 wrote:

the motivation ultimately is to be the best, that's the easiest explaination, i know the feeling of wanting to beat my own score for the sake of besting myself. Personally i have no problem with the X-Men, as someone said, makes progression awards so much easier cause of the big targets and their insanely high scores basically moved up the base score of anyone who can beat their teams, i know from experience before season 4 my average was just over 1000, since this season started and their insane scores kind of helped everyone, my average is now around 1230(including an all time high unshielded score of 1233). they wanna spend money on this game? good for them.

how can you be the best at a community single player game that doesn't have a level playing field?

you can't actually beat anyone in this game; just play more often than them

I'd give an example using actual video games, but I don't know what you actually play.

So this isn't an actual video game.... hmmmm....and getting 1st doesn't mean I won.....mind = blown. Lol

Unknown

Competition in PvE is mostly endurance while competition in PvP is mostly having the right characters, money, and endurance too (because you got to play fairly constantly still even with money). While that doesn't sound terribly prestigious, people compete in eating hotdogs or rock paper scissors too. I do think the game needs to work on having some kind of long term incentive to compete. I think people in Major League Eating or whatever competitive eating is called do get paid for winning, for example, even if you've to question the sanity of doing this in the first place.

NorthernPolarity

Tavanh wrote:

Why would I spend 2000 HP to reach top spot?

1. You get HP back (100 from progression, 25-100 Personal rank, & 50-100 Alliance rank)
2. I want/need those 3* covers
3. Progression reward provides a 3* cover (to me, worth 1250 HP if I needed it).
4. [Hypothetically saying I'll always be TOP 25] I would get two 3* covers instead of one (worth increased 1250 HP)
5. I just like playing this game

So in total, I would be gaining 175-300HP and two additional covers that I want/need (2500).

You can pretty easily get top 5 off of 5 75hp shields in the worst case scenario: i know i tend to get top 5 off of a single shield a lot of the time: i think the question people are curious about is why spend the extra 1.5k hp for that top spot when you could do it for so much less and save more hp.

Kelbris

Psykopathic wrote:

Kelbris wrote:

ThatOneGuyjp189512 wrote:

the motivation ultimately is to be the best, that's the easiest explaination, i know the feeling of wanting to beat my own score for the sake of besting myself. Personally i have no problem with the X-Men, as someone said, makes progression awards so much easier cause of the big targets and their insanely high scores basically moved up the base score of anyone who can beat their teams, i know from experience before season 4 my average was just over 1000, since this season started and their insane scores kind of helped everyone, my average is now around 1230(including an all time high unshielded score of 1233). they wanna spend money on this game? good for them.

how can you be the best at a community single player game that doesn't have a level playing field?

you can't actually beat anyone in this game; just play more often than them

I'd give an example using actual video games, but I don't know what you actually play.

So this isn't an actual video game.... hmmmm....and getting 1st doesn't mean I won.....mind = blown. Lol

An ellipse is three periods. Stop that. You're making people read extra things for no reason.

Being the first place finisher in a single player tournament doesn't dictate who's the best. It actually really surprised that you of all people would mention something like that. Back in (approx) December, you called that he doesn't pay better me the "idiot of the week" for telling some scrub that he doesn't play better than I do.

Do you remember what your logic was? "You can't tell if you're better than someone in a game where you don't actually play against them."

Not verbatim, but that was the gist of it. I can dig it up if you'd like.

For the "this isn't a real video game?" nonsense... Does this game feel fully formed yet? Real (console/pc) games don't get released until they stop feeling like a beta. Hell, the initial release felt like a freaking alpha. This isn't the only game I've played that's felt like it was released before there was enough polish to make it feel finished.

It reminds me of the Minecraft beta, but Mojang was REALLY CLEAR that the game wasn't finished, and if you bought the beta you'd get the full game free.

I really, really want a special 5 second turn timer tournament in this game, so we can see who really knows how to rock a board. 100 HP penalty or -1 all AP to all characters if you go over the timer.

Game's way too **** easy right now anyway.

Unknown

Kelbris wrote:

Psykopathic wrote:

Kelbris wrote:

ThatOneGuyjp189512 wrote:

the motivation ultimately is to be the best, that's the easiest explaination, i know the feeling of wanting to beat my own score for the sake of besting myself. Personally i have no problem with the X-Men, as someone said, makes progression awards so much easier cause of the big targets and their insanely high scores basically moved up the base score of anyone who can beat their teams, i know from experience before season 4 my average was just over 1000, since this season started and their insane scores kind of helped everyone, my average is now around 1230(including an all time high unshielded score of 1233). they wanna spend money on this game? good for them.

how can you be the best at a community single player game that doesn't have a level playing field?

you can't actually beat anyone in this game; just play more often than them

I'd give an example using actual video games, but I don't know what you actually play.

So this isn't an actual video game.... hmmmm....and getting 1st doesn't mean I won.....mind = blown. Lol

An ellipse is three periods. Stop that. You're making people read extra things for no reason.

Being the first place finisher in a single player tournament doesn't dictate who's the best. It actually really surprised that you of all people would mention something like that. Back in (approx) December, you called that he doesn't pay better me the "idiot of the week" for telling some scrub that he doesn't play better than I do.

Do you remember what your logic was? "You can't tell if you're better than someone in a game where you don't actually play against them."

Not verbatim, but that was the gist of it. I can dig it up if you'd like.

For the "this isn't a real video game?" nonsense... Does this game feel fully formed yet? Real (console/pc) games don't get released until they stop feeling like a beta. Hell, the initial release felt like a freaking alpha. This isn't the only game I've played that's felt like it was released before there was enough polish to make it feel finished.

It reminds me of the Minecraft beta, but Mojang was REALLY CLEAR that the game wasn't finished, and if you bought the beta you'd get the full game free.

I really, really want a special 5 second turn timer tournament in this game, so we can see who really knows how to rock a board. 100 HP penalty or -1 all AP to all characters if you go over the timer.

Game's way too tinykitty easy right now anyway.

You spend an awful lot of energy focused on a pretend game. Wow :S

Kelbris

I'm passionate about video games in general. A really good one that can actually force you to suspend disbelief is pretty wonderful. It's an experience that you don't get in movies since you can't control the main character.

Check out Asura's Wrath. you can control the camera perspective during cutscenes so that you can zoom in on different parts of the scenery (or pieces of the action). Makes you feel like a director.

For what it's worth, you're one of the good ones here. I've no issue with you. Just this awful, awful business model.

Unknown

Asura's Wrath was amazing, and it was basically an anime wrapped in a 10hr. long quick time event. Hidden gem of a game.

HairyDave

walkyourpath wrote:

Asura's Wrath was amazing, and it was basically an anime wrapped in a 10hr. long quick time event. Hidden gem of a game.

Yeah, no.

I've avoided Beyond Two Souls for much the same reason. Semi-interactive movies are not the games for me.

Kelbris

HairyDave wrote:

walkyourpath wrote:

Asura's Wrath was amazing, and it was basically an anime wrapped in a 10hr. long quick time event. Hidden gem of a game.

Yeah, no.

I've avoided Beyond Two Souls for much the same reason. Semi-interactive movies are not the games for me.

you can fail pretty much every QuickTime event and still progress through the whole game; the only ones you actually have to do have no time limit so you can just do it whenever

The only things where you can actually die in is the combat stages where there's no QTE other than counter attacking (which is incredibly telegraphed so you'll see it coming)

Unknown

I must say I'm rather pleased that this thread was derailed into an argument for/against Sentry as well as discussion about conspiracies and what some of us spend our money on other than this game rather than a flame war vs Xmen and the subsequent pissing contest

GJ Everyone

Spoit

WorldRunner wrote:

I must say I'm rather pleased that this thread was derailed into an argument for/against Sentry as well as discussion about conspiracies and what some of us spend our money on other than this game rather than a flame war vs Xmen and the subsequent pissing contest

GJ Everyone

It's cause naz, or whatever he changed his name a dozen times since then, hasn't come in to fan the flames yet

I can maybe see the money thing, but the rapid fire name changes is the REAL mystery of the x-men. Especially how they get responses back from the CS in less than a week