Predict the new newbie team with c.storm dead

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I, like some others are very opposed to this change too - cStorm's Tempest is the only reason I was able to be competitive in the Red ISO 8 & Heroic comps, (against the L80+ NPCs) and that strategy has been nerfed into the ground by this change. Without the red generation or the 1k+ reflects there's no way I can generate enough damage now. This completely sucks.

I agree the ability was a bit OP, but the balance came from the fact everyone gets her....

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The developers likely looked at the strategies of the players and found that c.storm was a thorn in their side. People were racing through PVE faster than expected and far too many people employed the strategy. When looking at the FTP/PTW business model, it's unsustainable. I think it's meant to slow people down and also create more opportunities for their business model.

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Several people have said that they'll kill Wolverine next, but this makes fighting Storm with Wolverine awful. Wolverine's strength is in making regular matches much stronger, which means they are going to trigger her yellow.

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Bugpop wrote:

The developers likely looked at the strategies of the players and found that c.storm was a thorn in their side. People were racing through PVE faster than expected and far too many people employed the strategy. When looking at the FTP/PTW business model, it's unsustainable. I think it's meant to slow people down and also create more opportunities for their business model.

I completely agree with this. C Storm had to change for PvE or C. Storm would have to be restricted from most all of PvE.

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Nemek wrote:

Bugpop wrote:

The developers likely looked at the strategies of the players and found that c.storm was a thorn in their side. People were racing through PVE faster than expected and far too many people employed the strategy. When looking at the FTP/PTW business model, it's unsustainable. I think it's meant to slow people down and also create more opportunities for their business model.

I completely agree with this. C Storm had to change for PvE or C. Storm would have to be restricted from most all of PvE.

do you seriously want to see her now? I loved when people used her before. Now you can't wallop her without taking damage unless you can one shot her. Think how this is going to impact the lightning rounds in terms of getting through matches quickly, farming iso, etc.

Heck, pushing for higher tournament rewards is going to be a lot harder.

Nemek

Misguided wrote:

Nemek wrote:

Bugpop wrote:

The developers likely looked at the strategies of the players and found that c.storm was a thorn in their side. People were racing through PVE faster than expected and far too many people employed the strategy. When looking at the FTP/PTW business model, it's unsustainable. I think it's meant to slow people down and also create more opportunities for their business model.

I completely agree with this. C Storm had to change for PvE or C. Storm would have to be restricted from most all of PvE.

do you seriously want to see her now? I loved when people used her before. Now you can't wallop her without taking damage unless you can one shot her. Think how this is going to impact the lightning rounds in terms of getting through matches quickly, farming iso, etc.

My strategy in most types of tourneys won't be affected. Most games, I don't attack her first anyway, and let sniper rifle down her entirely. Against tank characters, thunderclaps and matches don't trigger tempest. Only time it happens is if a critical accidentally goes off.

Lightning rounds will be different, though.

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i absolutely love the irony of giving tons of storm covers in double shot and now nerfing her

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DumDumDugn wrote:

i absolutely love the irony of giving tons of storm covers in double shot and now nerfing her

What's **** is I have 3/5/5 now because of it. I was debating very heavily over that or 4/5/4 and now I am screwed with a useless yellow skill.

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sms4002 wrote:

What's **** is I have 3/5/5 now because of it. I was debating very heavily over that or 4/5/4 and now I am screwed with a useless yellow skill.

It's not useless, it's just not as super-charged as it once was.

Her having 2.5 effective abilites is still better than the vast majority of the roster as it stands now. Where most are lucky to have 2 useful ones and some have none.

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Toxicadam wrote:

sms4002 wrote:

What's **** is I have 3/5/5 now because of it. I was debating very heavily over that or 4/5/4 and now I am screwed with a useless yellow skill.

It's not useless, it's just not as super-charged as it once was.

Her having 2.5 effective abilites is still better than the vast majority of the roster as it stands now. Where most are lucky to have 2 useful ones and some have none.

Very true.

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Simple strat for killing her is roughly the same for me. Attack her with (yellow due to Thor) matches until you are maxed on yellowand 1 shot her (assuming maxed Lvl...can use red if they are sub 1500 health). If you notice a huge cascade possibility (or she drops below your 1 shot kill threshold), switch to their highest health enemy and attack him with the cascade/matches...but still drop her with the power. Simple.

as for her offense...yea..straight up nerfed. Not necessarily a bad thing for the gme though. Her yellow was extra imo and the blue is her real reason for use (11 blue to do Thor Lvl damage to all players and drop a 4 turn stun on a troublesome opponent is pretty deadly). I know ppl will be frustrated but I am for anything that requires ppl to actually use some modicum of skill to win.

I think I just saw ragnarok put on a bag and change his name to bagnarok in an attempt to avoid the Nerf bat. Might not happen though since he is a predominantly "pay" Lvl character at the moment. (Side note, got my first red rag in a heroic last night...wish I could trade it for some magneto covers though...)

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Nemek wrote:

My strategy in most types of tourneys won't be affected. Most games, I don't attack her first anyway, and let sniper rifle down her entirely. Against tank characters, thunderclaps and matches don't trigger tempest. Only time it happens is if a critical accidentally goes off.

Lightning rounds will be different, though.

It blows for characters that use strike tiles. I'm going to have to rethink my strategy. Makes me want to use Spidey to block the damage.

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soenottelling wrote:

Her yellow was extra imo and the blue is her real reason for use (11 blue to do Thor Lvl damage to all players and drop a 4 turn stun on a troublesome opponent is pretty deadly).)

3 turn stun if you only raised blue to 4. Not the end of the world but would like to take back the 4th point from yellow and move it to blue.

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bagnarok and bagneto next?

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DumDumDugn wrote:

bagnarok and bagneto next?

I certainly hope they get a little less heavy handed.

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I also would now say modern hawkeye, Wolverine and Thor is a very good starter team (if you start now, there seems to be a lot of hawkeye covers available). Because effectively there is only one character you have to spent health packs on (thor), its very cost efficient.

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Mommson wrote:

I also would now say modern hawkeye, Wolverine and Thor is a very good starter team (if you start now, there seems to be a lot of hawkeye covers available). Because effectively there is only one character you have to spent health packs on (thor), its very cost efficient.

Assuming you keep cover active anyway.

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Mommson wrote:

I also would now say modern hawkeye, Wolverine and Thor is a very good starter team (if you start now, there seems to be a lot of hawkeye covers available). Because effectively there is only one character you have to spent health packs on (thor), its very cost efficient.

That's what annoys me the most about the storm change, it's ticking minor damage to all your characters, rather than just heaping damage on a single one you put in front

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Mommson wrote:

I also would now say modern hawkeye, Wolverine and Thor is a very good starter team (if you start now, there seems to be a lot of hawkeye covers available). Because effectively there is only one character you have to spent health packs on (thor), its very cost efficient.

GAH! You beat me to it! With the new event "The Hunt", it's very clear that Modern Hawkeye is the intended AoE replacement, for this event at least.

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M Hawkeye is pretty good imo. It would have been nicer if he did slightly less damage in exchange for one of his timers being 1 turn at level 5 but he's still pretty decent as is.