Predict the new newbie team with c.storm dead

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Fangel wrote:

ihearthawthats wrote:

Or they could just buff other cards. c.Storm nerf will surely make everyone jump to Moonstone now.

speaking of moonstone, her gravity warp has been changed as well.

I was being sarcastic, but seeing this change, I'd actually seriously use her now... if I actually had her complete. Oh well.

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ihearthawthats wrote:

Fangel wrote:

ihearthawthats wrote:

Or they could just buff other cards. c.Storm nerf will surely make everyone jump to Moonstone now.

speaking of moonstone, her gravity warp has been changed as well.

I was being sarcastic, but seeing this change, I'd actually seriously use her now... if I actually had her complete. Oh well.

Why would she be more useful? Her purple ability basically turned from Purple Loki into Black Loki. And Loki sucks

Nemek

I suspect they wanted to get this out before episode 2 hits. Will be interesting to see what people are going to do instead for PvE. In high level PvP, C Storm wasn't anything to worry about.

With the Moonstone PvE buff, I suspect the two changes will see some relevance in episode 2.

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i suspect a nerf to wolv is coming too because now he is needed for newbies to PVE

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the moose wrote:

Instead of attacking her first just attack the highest Hp opponent until you build up enough ap to one or two shot her. That's my new strategy that seems to deal with her pretty well. Even a great cascade won't do 20% damage to a max level Thor or a buffed Iron Man.

And I agree Thor and Wolvie is the way to go. I love that combo

clearly you are smarter than i. lol.

but problem is i run characters that don't have high damaging abilities. gonna have to rethink some of my strats against cstorm.

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Sooty wrote:

Lets not forget that cstorm herself also has that crucial stun ability to deal with an opposing cstorm. Still going to be a cstorm fest...

People have also invested a lot of ISO into max leveling her. It's not like they have other 2 star heroes (max leveled) waiting in the wings to replace her.

She is hugely popular because she's one of the few characters that have 3 useful abilities.

All this change did was make one less useful.

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forgrim wrote:

the moose wrote:

Instead of attacking her first just attack the highest Hp opponent until you build up enough ap to one or two shot her. That's my new strategy that seems to deal with her pretty well. Even a great cascade won't do 20% damage to a max level Thor or a buffed Iron Man.

And I agree Thor and Wolvie is the way to go. I love that combo

clearly you are smarter than i. lol.

but problem is i run characters that don't have high damaging abilities. gonna have to rethink some of my strats against cstorm.

I might have to waste magneto's purple on her now >_< i usually save that for rags

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Do we have a list of all the characters that got changed?

Hey IceX... what changed?

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DumDumDugn wrote:

forgrim wrote:

the moose wrote:

Instead of attacking her first just attack the highest Hp opponent until you build up enough ap to one or two shot her. That's my new strategy that seems to deal with her pretty well. Even a great cascade won't do 20% damage to a max level Thor or a buffed Iron Man.

And I agree Thor and Wolvie is the way to go. I love that combo

clearly you are smarter than i. lol.

but problem is i run characters that don't have high damaging abilities. gonna have to rethink some of my strats against cstorm.

I might have to waste magneto's purple on her now >_< i usually save that for rags

I have to up mag ASAP now... I have this odd feeling they'll nerf rags eventually. He's been the 2nd most complained about character in the entire game.

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Sooty wrote:

Why would she be more useful? Her purple ability basically turned from Purple Loki into Black Loki. And Loki sucks

I just like Ms. Marvel, even though she's not actually her. But I like her colour synergy with Spidey.

They need to give me She-Hulk, purple+green+red please.

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Sooty wrote:

DumDumDugn wrote:

forgrim wrote:

the moose wrote:

Instead of attacking her first just attack the highest Hp opponent until you build up enough ap to one or two shot her. That's my new strategy that seems to deal with her pretty well. Even a great cascade won't do 20% damage to a max level Thor or a buffed Iron Man.

And I agree Thor and Wolvie is the way to go. I love that combo

clearly you are smarter than i. lol.

but problem is i run characters that don't have high damaging abilities. gonna have to rethink some of my strats against cstorm.

I might have to waste magneto's purple on her now >_< i usually save that for rags

I have to up mag ASAP now... I have this odd feeling they'll nerf rags eventually. He's been the 2nd most complained about character in the entire game.

the ebb and flow of buffs and nerfs. luckily i come from an mmo and moba background so i just accept and move on.

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I was actually one of those who called for cstorm nerfage come to think about it. It's just that using her to win matches fast has been such second nature to me now that I know I'll definitely miss it.

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Sooty wrote:

DumDumDugn wrote:

forgrim wrote:

the moose wrote:

Instead of attacking her first just attack the highest Hp opponent until you build up enough ap to one or two shot her. That's my new strategy that seems to deal with her pretty well. Even a great cascade won't do 20% damage to a max level Thor or a buffed Iron Man.

And I agree Thor and Wolvie is the way to go. I love that combo

clearly you are smarter than i. lol.

but problem is i run characters that don't have high damaging abilities. gonna have to rethink some of my strats against cstorm.

I might have to waste magneto's purple on her now >_< i usually save that for rags

I have to up mag ASAP now... I have this odd feeling they'll nerf rags eventually. He's been the 2nd most complained about character in the entire game.

i only spent HP to level up my rags red from 1->2...holding off to see if he gets nerfed before i commit any more

I think though, it's bad business to nerf 3* characters

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DumDumDugn wrote:

i only spent HP to level up my rags red from 1->2...holding off to see if he gets nerfed before i commit any more

I think though, it's bad business to nerf 3* characters

As someone who detests Rags, I'd rather see buffs to other characters than have him nerfed. It would be funny to see the bandwagoners upset though.

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"The new newbie team" will still be C. Storm, Thor, and Wolvie, since those are still the best free characters you can get, guaranteed, from prologue without paying for heroic packs.

As someone who hasn't had a problem with C. Storm's yellow for a long, long time, I'm very, very opposed to this change. She was one of the few ways newer players had a fighting chance to compete with veterans and that's what we need to keep the player population big and growing.

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we just await now patch notes from iceix to see some reasoning behind the changes. i suspect as someone else has, has something to do with episode 2.

edit: spoke too soon, patch notes just came out

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Blue Shoes wrote:

A big part of the combo was the red AP she generated. They will still play together, but that synergy is gone.

I'm glad to see it gone, that's the part of her power I always thought was the most unbalancing. The damage changes and ability to trigger on damage to herself are interesting. Targeting her first no longer avoids the power, but it does avoid the nastiness that ensues if the whole team is low. Ergo, she still gets targeted first.

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DayvBang wrote:

I'm glad to see it gone, that's the part of her power I always thought was the most unbalancing. The damage changes and ability to trigger on damage to herself are interesting. Targeting her first no longer avoids the power, but it does avoid the nastiness that ensues if the whole team is low. Ergo, she still gets targeted first.

Yeah, she always got targeted first and for me, she was often dead in a turn or two. Never, ever a problem for me. Was fighting against an AI-controlled C. Storm ever a real problem for anyone here?

Again, C. Storm's yellow wasn't a problem when you, a human player, were playing against an AI-controlled C. Storm. The problem was when a different, human C. Storm player would be up against *your* team controlled by the AI. Then, your dumb AI-controlled team would attack the characters in front, C. Storm's yellow would trigger a couple times, and you'd lose.

Kinda sucked to lose points here and there but whatever. Retaliate and stomp C. Storm and you're fine.

Now, newbies have much, much less of a shot of competing and placing in PVP. PVP is 90%+ of this game. If newbies don't play PVP, they'll eventually quit. If a lot of people eventually quit, game goes bye-bye for everybody.

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Ok, I'm confused. Does her yellow now trigger when you attack her directly? If so, yuck. Yeah, you can one shot her, but if you are running a team that focuses on smaller strikes, that sucks.

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I have been slowing down my usage of C Storm since it is an invitation to be attacked since she is so easy to defeat no matter what the level. Strategy has been to use in the beginning to get a couple of hundred points when attacks don't hurt and then put her on the bench to improve my defense. Also, loved to attack high level C Storm teams for easy points - suspect that will hurt the most for me as her defense is improved - could just be a bit more work for Spidey though.

I think this hurts the new players a lot more than anyone else. I kept her at 58 so that in lightening matches with the default Doom and Mags - they would take damage for all the blue tiles for her to user her blue skill and the yellow still hits for over 1k damage each. The helped me place top 10 and top 25 enough times to build up my 3 star villains. Now I have a 51 mags that tends to replace her so I'm ok. Newer players may have just lost their chance to do well now.

With the nerf I'd probably have not used the 4th point on the yellow cover but put brought blue to 5 for the extra stun. I think that is the worst part of changes after the fact. They should come with the ability to respec the heroes that have been dramatically altered to allow us to adjust strategy for the new specs.