***** Big Wheel (Jackson Weele) *****

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  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    entrailbucket said:
    He's really good.  It's a lot easier to rack up speed points than I thought it would be, even without Shang-Chi doing his thing.  *With* Shang-Chi doing his thing, it's crazy.

    I'm not sure I'd swap him in for either guy in Spin Cycle, but there is a very strong team that's Shang-Chi/Big Wheel/... somebody.  I don't know who the somebody is yet!
    I think the intended third is Sersi though Onslaught and Sighclops should do well too. There are probably others. 
  • Srheer0
    Srheer0 Posts: 510 Critical Contributor
    MegaBee said:
    Srheer0 said:
    ThaRoadWarrior said:
    I threw in for a 10-pack because I had the HP for it, got all 2*s, feeling pretty good about my life choices right now lol.

    I pulled 2x40s and 1x10 and whatever 1x tokens I have earned.  

    Wheel eludes me still.  :(


    The odds of pulling a five-star in those stores are horrible.
    You know what. I logged into my Alt account to do pvp yesterday and saw I had enough CP for a LL pull. Just before I clicked it, I found out I had a few single pull tokens for big wheel handed out from a recently ended event.

    No word of a lie, pulled him on the first single token. I was dumbfounded by the good luck. That same account got 500 5star bonus shards off a LL lastweek and it's INSANE luck right now. 

    1:250 odds for Wheel.

    and IDK what the odds are of getting 500 5star bonus shards, but it must be less than 1%.  @megabee
  • Breadsticks
    Breadsticks Posts: 85 Match Maker
    The Hulk ME could be a good option with SC and Big Wheel. I got the idea from someone but I can't remember. 
  • Yepyep
    Yepyep Posts: 968 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2021
    DAZ0273 said:
    I actually do really like his "spin out" animation. He seems as if he will take a bit of practice to get the best out of him but he is definitely different.
    Also for some reason I now have the wish that we could have a Big Wheel/Wacky Races crossover.
    Obviously you weren't comparing, but it's hard to imagine a character that demands more practice than Shang-Chi.
    But as to BW, I agree -- a lot of practice, and I think there will be specialists using him in PvP. There are interesting synergies with Onslaught and Prof. $. But potentially scary outcomes facing 5witch with that kind of team...
  • Akoni
    Akoni Posts: 790 Critical Contributor
    Oh, the puns. BW is just an overall good time. I like him, but I don't like his Green and Red as much as I thought I would. Nonetheless, he is good. That Blue when he hits 10 speed points is great.

    It got me thinking, though. How many players plan on running Okoye with him? She would make a great meat shield due to her healing. My Okoye is weak so I don't know how good her boost is for BW's powers.
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    Akoni said:
    Oh, the puns. BW is just an overall good time. I like him, but I don't like his Green and Red as much as I thought I would. Nonetheless, he is good. That Blue when he hits 10 speed points is great.

    It got me thinking, though. How many players plan on running Okoye with him? She would make a great meat shield due to her healing. My Okoye is weak so I don't know how good her boost is for BW's powers.

    How many people have an okoye who can actually tank for big wheel? Okoye is not quite as devastating a character when she doesn't tank 4+ colors (hence the number of people who invested in getting her to 500+). Seems like Shang chi, who has modern match damage (pre boost), and synergizes well with big wheel, is a better choice for those who want a true healing tank for the wheel to hide behind.  (for those who have the option to do both).
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2022
    After recording and watching closely, BW always rotates 90 ° clockwise.
    On his green power, i.e, if there is this pattern:
    Blue  (x)  Green   Tu
    Red    (x) Yellow    Tu
    Black   (x) Green  Red
    It will change to:

    Black (x) Red  Blue
    Green (x) Yellow   Green
    Red  (x) Tu   Tu
    Where all previous files will become a column, and the opposite.
    His red power is a lot easier to figure it out and it works the same.
    And his blue passive rotates the board in the same way.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think what's happening is that as you make red or purple matches, SC's match damage increases. Since his match damage is updated immediately, this turned the team strongest colour to red. Since my BW is still at low level, you might want to test with your BW if this theory is right.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    I tried SC/Colossus/Valkyrie in this order. In the beginning, strongest was yellow. When SC red is higher than Colossus's yellow, I gained red aps. So, I don't think placement of characters determine the aps gained via Valkyrie's black cd in this specific scenario. Rather, the strongest colour right before the moment of Valkyrie's cd is placed determines the ap gained.

    But I think I might be missing something else?
  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 4,088 Chairperson of the Boards
    If BW green and SC red have the same exact strength then placement matters only until Shang makes enough matches that red overtakes green as strongest color. Otherwise Hound is right.

    I play Valk several times per PVE with Hulkoye. When Hulk dies and revives once, Valk becomes useless. This is because Hulk’s match damage increases and green overtakes yellow as my teams strongest color (yellow because of RTF support). Once green is the highest, Valk collects it and I have no outlet for it. 
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    SC tanks everyone as long as you continue developing his combo as there is no character in game having more match damage than him on any color.
    So valkirye gives the strongest color at any time regardless on the order the characters they are.
    Stop SC combo and valkirye will give another color.
    But it's so easy as to notice that all tiles become changed by SC's sign.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2022
     As long as you put Valkyrie before BW, you could luck into activating Valkyrie's cd. That's what I do with my Ultron/Valkyrie/Polaris team.

    I look forward to champing  him or bringing him to good coverage in 14 days.

    I think playing with Big Wheel often enough can improve your visualisation skills. In some IQ tests, you have to visualise rotating the figures to find the matching ones. While BW's is a fixed 2-D 90 degrees rotation to the right, I don't think it's that easy to visualise and find matches within 2-3 seconds. I think I'll note down how long it takes me to find free matches and see if I can improve my timing after using him for 3 months.  :D


  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    BW's red is really easy to figure it out, is just a small 3×3 square rotating to the right.
    However if playing SC then this power should be forgotten as SC's is more important, and it restores health, and it's kind of easier to get good matches.
    I recorded a video before playing both.
    With SC, BW should focuse on green, and that it's way harder because first you must imagine the centered 4×4 square which will rotate( even description of the power is vague) and then figure it out right the rotation which is hard for the human brain. I use to focus just on making 1 match, and if there happen to be more, it will be wellcomed. There is also the speed points factor, if you fire it at 20 no matter if there are matches or not the enemy  team will get damage and waiting another turn that option will fade.
    So actually those 2 are really funny to play although it's most complicated than it seems. 
  • Warbringa
    Warbringa Posts: 1,318 Chairperson of the Boards
    I just champed this guy and I have to say, pairing him with 1/2 5thor and SC is an amazing team.  I mean 5thor gives you a good chance of getting  bursts of charges on BW and he gathers red for SC.  SC red and purple both add charges to BW and then self-feed if you play him right.  BW then goes off passively multiple times for great damage and then his green is a backup that can save SC charges on bad boards and then it can cause cascades itself, fueling SW charges again!  

    I have found my new favorite team I think for some time!
  • Vhailorx
    Vhailorx Posts: 6,085 Chairperson of the Boards
    Warbringa said:
    I just champed this guy and I have to say, pairing him with 1/2 5thor and SC is an amazing team.  I mean 5thor gives you a good chance of getting  bursts of charges on BW and he gathers red for SC.  SC red and purple both add charges to BW and then self-feed if you play him right.  BW then goes off passively multiple times for great damage and then his green is a backup that can save SC charges on bad boards and then it can cause cascades itself, fueling SW charges again!  

    I have found my new favorite team I think for some time!

    Yup, as expected (in at least a few threads here) BW is a good combo with SC and halfthor. He has lots of board shake options and passive damage that can help smooth out the downside risks of SC (namely a bad board that will wipe out your charges).
    That team has no stuns, or ap suppression and only a little defense though, so I imagine it will be unusable in some harder pve nodes (less sure if there is a good defensive team in pvp that can counter this lineup).
    For as much of a joke as the character is, the mpq implementation is a solid third-wheel option for several 5* teams (pun intended!).
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,564 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm seeing a lot of Big Wheel in simulator now, generally tied to Onslaught/Shang-Chi. It turns out he hits pretty hard, and that team is sort of AI proof in that the general chaos of board shake is all they really want, so his moves getting used on random tiles works as well or better than trying to snipe. I'm curious what other teams he might be good with. Mine is still a cover and a half shy of champing, but i'll get there shortly from milestone shards.

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