***** Big Wheel (Jackson Weele) *****

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  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 745 Critical Contributor
    ...
    .. I...
    No.   I don't ...
    I don't know what to say 

    Why not pull Mr immortal out of obscurity.
    Give him a passive to never take damage... To beat him you need to send him airborne while the other two members of the team are down.

    Plus so many people will be STOKED to play a side joke character.

    And... He would still look cooler than this.

    Fingers crossed this is a place holder and we get something else.
  • Seph1roth5
    Seph1roth5 Posts: 481 Mover and Shaker
    His green looks like what gamora's power should have been, and his passive looks like how shang chi's should've worked.  So they're learning?
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    You know I was going to hoard until Ultron rotated out but after seeing this, I guess I'll continue pulling.
  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,253 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    Spin Me Right Round - part of the lyric of the song, Right Round by Flo Rida.

    Which was stolen sampled from "You Spin Me Right Round" by Dead or Alive. Pete Burns is the man.

    Roll the Dice (store) - what the players have been doing in the game. To top it off, they put two nerfed controversial meta 5* in this store who generated one of the greatest backlashes in MPQ history.
    Ehh maybe I'll just rechamp my 3/1/1 Gambit. I sold off my lv450 one after he was nerfed.

    All in all he seems a fun character. Plus he's Green/Red/Blue, which is personally welcome: I just only champed Peter Parker, and my Havok is destined to rot at 1/1/2 forever. I don't understand the vitriol against him. It's probably just certain forumites being themselves I guess. They take a match-3 game way too seriously and they'll never be satisfied.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ladies and gentlemen, do you see your Marvel knowledge, your status tier system and the MCU characters relevance? Nice, then now throw it out by the window with this 5* character. 
    And be careful, the things this one does are really funny and the synergies he will create will make him for one of the most useful characters in game with the right team.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    I didn't know that song was stolen. :lol:

    I just listened to the one by Dead or Alive and both versions fit this character. I'm already imagining this character playing either songs while treading on opponents with his Big Wheel.
  • Akoni
    Akoni Posts: 790 Critical Contributor
    Ok, I get it. Some of ya'll are lactose intolerant. You can't handle the cheesy characters. Me? I love it. Give me all the cheesy characters.  :D I'm hoarding as we speak. 
    mdreyer93 said:
    Wow. I mean, I'm a huge Spidey fan and this is still WAY out of left field, lol. Literally no one is off the table now.  Bring on The Orb, Shuma-Gorath, Stegron, and Hellcow.

    First 6* will be Lady Stilt-Man
    You're crazy. The first 6* will be Paste Pot Pete.  :#
  • Thanos
    Thanos Posts: 722 Critical Contributor

    Since there's no cap to his speed point, and you can gain more than 2 points per turn,
    He resets at 10 points, re-read his blue.
  • heybub
    heybub Posts: 297 Mover and Shaker
    mdreyer93 said:
    Wow. I mean, I'm a huge Spidey fan and this is still WAY out of left field, lol. Literally no one is off the table now.  Bring on The Orb, Shuma-Gorath, Stegron, and Hellcow.
    Wait... there's a hellcow???!!!!!  How is Hellcow not in this game.  I don't care about any details, but I want Hellcow!!!!!  
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Thanks for pointing that out. I interpret it as his spin out triggers at the start of turn if you have 10 points because he doesn't have an explicit cap like Shang Chi does (up to 10). 

    Spin out at 6 points, reduce to 1
    Spin out at 10 points, reduce to 1, 2 or 3 speed points.

    Unless spin outs refers to cap at 10 points. However, it does make sense when you apply the cap to his power damage and it's in line with recent damage. Regardless of that, I'll use this character more when I need some laugh. 
  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,755 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited December 2021
    Thanos said:

    Since there's no cap to his speed point, and you can gain more than 2 points per turn,
    He resets at 10 points, re-read his blue.
    The spin-out only happens at start of the turn. So if you get a long cascade or match-5 or have a team that can go winfinite like Shang-Chi you can store *way* more than 10 spin points  and do massive damage at the start of the next turn to the front character.
    Also where are you reading he can only gain 2 per turn? It says:
    "Whenever Big Wheel's team makes a match beyond the first in a turn, Big Wheel gains 1 Speed Point."
    So each successive match past the 1st one adds 1 (or 2) spin points. Nothing there says it's limited to gaining once per turn.
    I think he's going to do a lot more damage than people think when he's with the right team (Shang-Chi, Half-Thor etc) that generates a lot of AP/extra matches.
    KGB


  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,014 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah, the way I read it, he only spins out at the start of your turn, so if you have some way to make a LOT of matches on your turn (hmmmmm...who could do this?) but then you stall out somehow, at the start of the next turn he'll unleash a huge AoE. 

    You can sort of wind him up like a top then let him go!  It's too bad one of his powers is on red, but I guess that makes his best build pretty obvious.
  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 711 Critical Contributor
    At no point did I request Big Wheel. I’m glad they’re giving me Big Wheel.  :)

    Truthfully, I’d so much rather have The Squadron Supreme, but I love crazy.
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    Yeah, the way I read it, he only spins out at the start of your turn, so if you have some way to make a LOT of matches on your turn (hmmmmm...who could do this?) but then you stall out somehow, at the start of the next turn he'll unleash a huge AoE. 

    You can sort of wind him up like a top then let him go!  It's too bad one of his powers is on red, but I guess that makes his best build pretty obvious.
    I think you're confusing his abilities a bit. His passive blue just does a regular attack when he spins out at the start of the turn and his active green ability is the one that does an aoe. So you would need six green ap to fire his aoe plus you would need to time it just right so you can make the most of the speed points before you lose them. If you have six green ap but only five speed points then it's probably best to wait until the next turn to see if you can get a nice cascade of matches and then fire your aoe before you spin out on the next turn. 
  • Thanos
    Thanos Posts: 722 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2021
    KGB said:
    Thanos said:

    Since there's no cap to his speed point, and you can gain more than 2 points per turn,
    He resets at 10 points, re-read his blue.

    Also where are you reading he can only gain 2 per turn? It says:
    "Whenever Big Wheel's team makes a match beyond the first in a turn, Big Wheel gains 1 Speed Point."
    So each successive match past the 1st one adds 1 (or 2) spin points. Nothing there says it's limited to gaining once per turn.
    KGB


    The wording on his blue is a little vague but i'd think they'd word it more like this: "For any matches beyond the first in a turn, gain a speed point" if you could get more than one point per turn. I highly doubt they're gonna let you build up 50 points and hit for gazillion damage. If I'm wrong, that makes him significantly better and I'll eat my hat.
    Btw, if he does turn out to be a damage powerhouse I'll be sad cause I'm not spending CP on his awful release store nor any LT's until at least Gam Gams is out of latests.

  • Pantera236
    Pantera236 Posts: 604 Critical Contributor
    edited December 2021
    Actually his green aoe isn't boosted by the speed points. The random enemy hit is boosted.
  • Theghouse
    Theghouse Posts: 363 Mover and Shaker
    While it's true that this is a ridiculously obscure character, is everybody forgetting that there is a spider man movie coming out this week?!  Could we be seeing this character in 3 days?!  Maybe... 

    ...his appearance was already teased in one of the trailers?!

    In the trailer, one of the license plates on a car that doc ock throws at Spider-Man reads ASM8183.  Director Jon Watts has a history of using license plates as Easter eggs to reference the comics that served as inspirations for the story arcs in the movies.

    ASM 8183 most likely points to The Amazing Spider-Man issue 183, which was published in August 1978 - ASM [month] 8 [issue] 183.  This is where Jackson Wheele is equipped with a giant weaponized wheel vehicle by The Tinkerer, and introduces himself as Big Wheel.

    The timing on this release of Big Wheel in MPQ - who otherwise would have no business being picked to be a 5* - gives a lot of validity to that theory that Big Wheel will make some sort of appearance in the movie, maybe the villain that Spidey fights early in the film before the multiversal sinister six appear, or a way to reintroduce the Tinkerer and who he is working with since Vulture and Scorpion got locked up.