***** Gamora (Deadliest Woman) *****

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  • mpiter
    mpiter Posts: 77 Match Maker
    If we can have her yellow as a team up, why would anyone ever bring the actual Gamora to a fight?

    Just bring Hulk + booster + Gamora teamup and you're all set.
    Because you will not have enough Gamora teamups to shield hop? Specially with a non-fortified repeater.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    mpiter said:
    If we can have her yellow as a team up, why would anyone ever bring the actual Gamora to a fight?

    Just bring Hulk + booster + Gamora teamup and you're all set.
    Because you will not have enough Gamora teamups to shield hop? Specially with a non-fortified repeater. 
    A player would just need to roster a one-yellow-cover Gamora to be able to send that teamup to anyone in their alliance.  The power shuts off damage reduction at one cover, so you wouldn't have to add more covers or put any resources into her.

    Recruiting a duplicate 5* just to send teamups seems like something nobody would do, and to be clear, I don't know if anyone will actually do it. 

    But a certain group of players are very interested in optimizing things, and have done things like this in the past to get an edge.
  • tonypq
    tonypq Posts: 557 Critical Contributor
    edited November 2021
    Gamora will be in LLs by Tuesday ?
  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,253 Chairperson of the Boards
    tonypq said:
    Gamora will be in LLs by Tuesday ?
    15 Nov. She'll replace Wednesday.
  • mdreyer93
    mdreyer93 Posts: 149 Tile Toppler
    tonypq said:
    Gamora will be in LLs by Tuesday ?
    15 Nov. She'll replace Wednesday.
    I was initially confused, but I see what you did there...
  • Wcheet
    Wcheet Posts: 16 Just Dropped In
    tonypq said:
    Gamora will be in LLs by Tuesday ?
    15 Nov. She'll replace Wednesday.
    just to be clear as im hoarding tokens for SC, its Odin next out of the LL store right?
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    so did we decide Gamora is good actually or what? I've come up against a few in PVP since she was available, and had no trouble at all against her even with the god boost, so I remain unimpressed, but figured it was worth asking if I was doing it wrong probably. Wouldn't be the first time.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    She's way better as a team up than as an actual character.
  • Bad
    Bad Posts: 3,146 Chairperson of the Boards
    It is a correct character but she can pair up effectively with really few meta characters as she shares colors with the most meta ones.
    She will be funny for pve, and ikaris can help her with her black trap.
    Finally her powers are oriented to a not fast play.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    She's a counter to the current defensive meta. If you don't have the right team to deal with them, she's a good one. Or if you like to have one more option, she will be great.

    In shield sim, the defensive meta I see, based on my MMR, are largely Colossus/Wanda/Apocalypse and BRB/Kitty/Polaris. I would probably run Gamora with

    Thor + Colossus/Wanda
    Colossus + Valkyrie

    against them.

    I might give Ultron a spin and see how he goes.


  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    The dev talked about the design of Gamora (thanks to OP in reddit):

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/games/designing-gamora-marvels-guardians-of-the-galaxy-marvel-puzzle-quest-interview

    So, they didn't mention anything about countering meta. But they were more on the fun aspect.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    They did finally suggest using other 5* characters with this 5* release instead of 1* or 2* partners as they have done in past design discussions.
  • DyingLegend
    DyingLegend Posts: 1,213 Chairperson of the Boards
    If she can counter 5 star Switch, I'm in
  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,098 Chairperson of the Boards
    I’m HIGHLY interested in using her as an alternative to my Odin/Ghostpool/Heimdall team that combats Scarlett Steel/Apoc. I think if you surround her with a duo that protects her and her repeaters, she’ll be good to go. 

    We’re off PVP though so I can’t really test yet. My Gamora is also at 3/3/5. 
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm leaning towards "good actually" after rostering this single yellow cover and running her in the Wanda pvp with Boosted Colossus.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited November 2021
    I'm going to put Colossus, Valkyrie and Gamora in shield sim against Colossus/Wanda/Apocalypse next time. Strongest colour is yellow. If I could make a yellow match-3 at the start of the game, i will be able to fire Gamora's yellow repeater on the next turn. After that, it's bulldozing them.

    Even though Valkyrie will fight with Gamora over yellow tiles, I think it's fine as long as you have two of her repeaters out. Valkyrie will also make sure that Apocalypse never fires his yellow.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm leaning towards "good actually" after rostering this single yellow cover and running her in the Wanda pvp with Boosted Colossus.
    Is the character Gamora good, or is her yellow power good?  Remember, we can get that as a TU, so you can bring the effect without bringing her.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm leaning towards "good actually" after rostering this single yellow cover and running her in the Wanda pvp with Boosted Colossus.
    Is the character Gamora good, or is her yellow power good?  Remember, we can get that as a TU, so you can bring the effect without bringing her.
    Hard to know for sure when you have one that only has a single yellow cover, and you are in the event that couldn't be designed more completely to showcase how useful that power is.
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,012 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm leaning towards "good actually" after rostering this single yellow cover and running her in the Wanda pvp with Boosted Colossus.
    Is the character Gamora good, or is her yellow power good?  Remember, we can get that as a TU, so you can bring the effect without bringing her.
    Hard to know for sure when you have one that only has a single yellow cover, and you are in the event that couldn't be designed more completely to showcase how useful that power is.

    Good point!  Maybe someone who has her championed could weigh in on the rest of her powers?
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,566 Chairperson of the Boards
    I"m not sure we'll know until Simulator comes back and we see her without the boost if people are using her for anything. I still think her base attack numbers are weak, and her black is better against goons than tile movers. But you know, plenty of characters show up to fights because they have that one thing they do.