entrailbucket said: Tiger_Wong said: entrailbucket said: Okoye...doesn't particularly need any help? She has infinite HP so damage mitigation doesn't really matter. She also doesn't really need speeding up. She wants to be paired with someone who does passive damage every turn so she can boost it.The only question relevant to the current meta…… I never asked a question about the meta with Electro because that’s undetermined as she hasn’t been released yet. I don’t know why you keep bringing that up. Again. This is Okoye/Electro or Okoye/Wanda vs IHulk or Hulkoye. Or if you want Hulkoye/Wanda or Hulkoye/Electro vs Hulkoye. Okoye has “infinite health”? Gee. I wonder how that happens? Oh yeah! Because she activates her yellow to heal. How does Wanda help that in any way, other than counter-intuitively? She wants someone who does damage every turn passively right? Yeah. That’s what IHulk is for. And Okoye boosts that by matching TUPs. Wanda’s purple is counter-intuitive to that. Electro is not. She helps put more TUPs on the board. Why would it be undetermined? Evaluating characters is about evaluating their place in the metagame. It's pretty easy to predict which characters will be used and which ones won't, based on their abilities.
Tiger_Wong said: entrailbucket said: Okoye...doesn't particularly need any help? She has infinite HP so damage mitigation doesn't really matter. She also doesn't really need speeding up. She wants to be paired with someone who does passive damage every turn so she can boost it.The only question relevant to the current meta…… I never asked a question about the meta with Electro because that’s undetermined as she hasn’t been released yet. I don’t know why you keep bringing that up. Again. This is Okoye/Electro or Okoye/Wanda vs IHulk or Hulkoye. Or if you want Hulkoye/Wanda or Hulkoye/Electro vs Hulkoye. Okoye has “infinite health”? Gee. I wonder how that happens? Oh yeah! Because she activates her yellow to heal. How does Wanda help that in any way, other than counter-intuitively? She wants someone who does damage every turn passively right? Yeah. That’s what IHulk is for. And Okoye boosts that by matching TUPs. Wanda’s purple is counter-intuitive to that. Electro is not. She helps put more TUPs on the board.
entrailbucket said: Okoye...doesn't particularly need any help? She has infinite HP so damage mitigation doesn't really matter. She also doesn't really need speeding up. She wants to be paired with someone who does passive damage every turn so she can boost it.The only question relevant to the current meta……
Tiger_Wong said: entrailbucket said: Tiger_Wong said: entrailbucket said: Okoye...doesn't particularly need any help? She has infinite HP so damage mitigation doesn't really matter. She also doesn't really need speeding up. She wants to be paired with someone who does passive damage every turn so she can boost it.The only question relevant to the current meta…… I never asked a question about the meta with Electro because that’s undetermined as she hasn’t been released yet. I don’t know why you keep bringing that up. Again. This is Okoye/Electro or Okoye/Wanda vs IHulk or Hulkoye. Or if you want Hulkoye/Wanda or Hulkoye/Electro vs Hulkoye. Okoye has “infinite health”? Gee. I wonder how that happens? Oh yeah! Because she activates her yellow to heal. How does Wanda help that in any way, other than counter-intuitively? She wants someone who does damage every turn passively right? Yeah. That’s what IHulk is for. And Okoye boosts that by matching TUPs. Wanda’s purple is counter-intuitive to that. Electro is not. She helps put more TUPs on the board. Why would it be undetermined? Evaluating characters is about evaluating their place in the metagame. It's pretty easy to predict which characters will be used and which ones won't, based on their abilities. You seem to really want to talk about the meta. Why, idk. There are other threads for that.
Again. This is Okoye/Electro or Okoye/Wanda vs IHulk or Hulkoye. Or if you want Hulkoye/Wanda or Hulkoye/Electro vs Hulkoye. Okoye has “infinite health”? Gee. I wonder how that happens? Oh yeah! Because she activates her yellow to heal. How does Wanda help that in any way, other than counter-intuitively? She wants someone who does damage every turn passively right? Yeah. That’s what IHulk is for. And Okoye boosts that by matching TUPs. Wanda’s purple is counter-intuitive to that. Electro is not. She helps put more TUPs on the board.
Painmonger said: Again. This is Okoye/Electro or Okoye/Wanda vs IHulk or Hulkoye. Or if you want Hulkoye/Wanda or Hulkoye/Electro vs Hulkoye. Okoye has “infinite health”? Gee. I wonder how that happens? Oh yeah! Because she activates her yellow to heal. How does Wanda help that in any way, other than counter-intuitively? She wants someone who does damage every turn passively right? Yeah. That’s what IHulk is for. And Okoye boosts that by matching TUPs. Wanda’s purple is counter-intuitive to that. Electro is not. She helps put more TUPs on the board. To be fair, Electro making yellow for Okoye is counter-intuitive too. Max damage on Electro's black required having less TU on the board, which isn't going to happen if Okoye can throw out her heal every turn or 2. And with regard to keeping Wanda's repeater out, Electro's passive is dependant on having enough green for the enemy iHulk to trigger, so it's not exactly fool proof either. Especially since Electro has an active green you'll be collecting. You'd also have to wait 3 turns for unfortified cd's to go off, while Wanda could do damage every turn.In the pure Okoye + ? Vs Hulkoye sandbox, I think they are roughly equal risk vs reward. Each has their drawbacks & advantages. If I'm adding my own hulk in pick 3, Wanda can help keep green on the board for hulk, too, but electro can't. On the other hand, Electro has 2 more active damage dealing powers in the colors of Hulk & Okoye's passives. Either one is an option, but I don't see one being clearly superior to the other, and still just in the context of another Hulkoye team on defense.
DAZ0273 said: This character arrival has stuck me into something of two minds. I have Switch ready to champ, have covers for Knull and will pick up a cover for Ronan eventually. Electro looks interesting but as I don't tend to be able to champ all the latest, is she interesting enough to pursue when I have Wanda? I actually find BRB/Kitty shuts down iHulk at my level too, so it is a little hard to know what to do. I guess I can fit her on an Apocalypse team for the villain boost but my champed 5* are all heroes otherwise. So I guess I might be realistically looking at a somewhat enforced hoard as nobody is really doing a lot for my roster shape. I guess I will see if she is any fun to play.
Okoye's boost from collected TU's would quickly outrun the boost Electro might've had from TU tiles dry board.
Painmonger said: Okoye's boost from collected TU's would quickly outrun the boost Electro might've had from TU tiles dry board. That's certainly true, mine would take about 7 TU to break even on the damage boost. I was just pointing out that using Electro with Okoye would be just as counter-intuitive as Wanda & Okoye. They just offset each other in different ways.
HoundofShadow said: It's not the same. Hers says "each other active villian", but Prof X's says "each active...".