AXP_isme said: A meta that never changed would be boring, certainly. On the other hand the dominance of a certain set of teams doesn’t preclude discussion about people’s opinions of those teams and characters. Countering someone’s position is reasonable debate but telling people to change their minds isn’t fostering discussion, it’s shutting it down. Disagreement and contention are normal in an environment such as this and, to an extent (namely where language and content fall within the bounds defined on the forum as acceptable), should be encouraged.
HoundofShadow said: I thought of Iceman's passive ability. Instead of generating blue ap immediately, he creates a 1 or 2-turn CD tile that gives him up to 5 blue ap after the CD processes. There can only be a maximum of 1-2 CD on the board. You can play around with the number of blue ap gained, no of turn and max no. of CD tiles on the board.Simple and the code already exists for it.
froggerjohn said:5Thor is clearly broken, and should be nerfed. Players are exploiting a half-health mechanic by entering a fight that way, which allows him to be OP from turn 1. The developers never intended that behavior, and should fix it.Unless I've missed something, this argument is not being made. (And I'm not making it either, other than to illustrate a point). It's a defensible argument from the standpoint of exploited behavior and an OP turn 1 dynamic. So WHY aren't lots of people crying to nerf Thor?The reason, is because this clearly broken behavior doesn't hurt anyone else. In fact, the opposing player in PvP doesn't even experience that anomaly, because the opponent Thor is always full health, and therefore doesn't even have the broken behavior when being faced in PvP.
MoosePrime said: froggerjohn said:5Thor is clearly broken, and should be nerfed. Players are exploiting a half-health mechanic by entering a fight that way, which allows him to be OP from turn 1. The developers never intended that behavior, and should fix it.Unless I've missed something, this argument is not being made. (And I'm not making it either, other than to illustrate a point). It's a defensible argument from the standpoint of exploited behavior and an OP turn 1 dynamic. So WHY aren't lots of people crying to nerf Thor?The reason, is because this clearly broken behavior doesn't hurt anyone else. In fact, the opposing player in PvP doesn't even experience that anomaly, because the opponent Thor is always full health, and therefore doesn't even have the broken behavior when being faced in PvP. I'm not sure I would agree that Thor is broken.However, I suspect that the reason many don't complain about him is that even when he starts a battle with 1/2 health on offence, this does not affect him on defence.
HoundofShadow said: Some whine about characters gaining ap because they made a match-3 that triggers their passives but they are against nerfing Thor when they are gaining 5ap every turn.Fair?
KGB said: He may or may not be broken. But he's subtly nerfing much of the rest of the 5* tier. He's doing that because everyone is exploiting the half health mechanic to generate tons of free AP. So what happens virtually every time a new 5* is released is you see the inevitable comments of 'they are not as good/fast as 1/2 health Thor so they are useless/non-meta'. If this exploit didn't exist, how many 5* characters would be a lot more relevant?It seems to me this exploit is a lot more likely to get fixed in some future release than any other nerf to Okoye/Kitty or whomever else is a a supposed nerf target because this isn't intended behavior.KGB
Vhailorx said: KGB said: He may or may not be broken. But he's subtly nerfing much of the rest of the 5* tier. He's doing that because everyone is exploiting the half health mechanic to generate tons of free AP. So what happens virtually every time a new 5* is released is you see the inevitable comments of 'they are not as good/fast as 1/2 health Thor so they are useless/non-meta'. If this exploit didn't exist, how many 5* characters would be a lot more relevant?It seems to me this exploit is a lot more likely to get fixed in some future release than any other nerf to Okoye/Kitty or whomever else is a a supposed nerf target because this isn't intended behavior.KGB People will make that same comparison no matter what the meta is. Does every meta team subtley nerf the rest of the 5* tier?