Spudgutter said: Dormammu said: Spudgutter said: I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase. Is that what Broll's post was? Or the same post he made in two other threads yesterday? Letting the developers know what he thinks? Okay, though... if I may... there is a Suggestions & Feedback forum he may want to try. It may result in less ABUSE flags on his posts.Let me ask you this, when rocket was posting every pve about tapping, a situation that directly affected dozens of people, and dozens more indirectly, where you giving him the same amount of grief? First of all, what does that situation have to do with this one? If I didn't have an opinion on tapping, does that mean I can't have an opinion on this one? As for 'grief', I'm going to disagree with you there. I thought my comment was civil. I like Broll. I upvote his comments regularly. But he's getting a bit silly with his nonconstructive comments against supports in every thread that mentions them and I shared my opinion with him. Again, to make the comparison to the tapping threads, shouldn't they have been suggestions & feedback? No, because that is a graveyard of good and bad ideas, both of which get barely looked at and rarely implemented. I don't think it is unreasonable for someone that is upset and frustrated with a feature to put snark in a thread from time to time. Telling that person they are in the minority and that they should "Try opening your mind to the possibilities," without actually explaining how to do so is the worse offense, imo. Civil or not, going out of the way to shut him down is not the path we should be applauding to take.Implementation of supports (which may be working as intended by the devs) does not seem to be working for some people. And often, those that defend it like yourself, only do so once you *luck* into a good one. I offered in my last post: please, change my mind. Tell me what support you have and how it works for you. And then, tell me how i am supposed to get it so that i can enjoy it as well.
Dormammu said: Spudgutter said: I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase. Is that what Broll's post was? Or the same post he made in two other threads yesterday? Letting the developers know what he thinks? Okay, though... if I may... there is a Suggestions & Feedback forum he may want to try. It may result in less ABUSE flags on his posts.Let me ask you this, when rocket was posting every pve about tapping, a situation that directly affected dozens of people, and dozens more indirectly, where you giving him the same amount of grief? First of all, what does that situation have to do with this one? If I didn't have an opinion on tapping, does that mean I can't have an opinion on this one? As for 'grief', I'm going to disagree with you there. I thought my comment was civil. I like Broll. I upvote his comments regularly. But he's getting a bit silly with his nonconstructive comments against supports in every thread that mentions them and I shared my opinion with him.
Spudgutter said: I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase.
Let me ask you this, when rocket was posting every pve about tapping, a situation that directly affected dozens of people, and dozens more indirectly, where you giving him the same amount of grief?
The rockett said: Spudgutter said: Dormammu said: Spudgutter said: I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase. Is that what Broll's post was? Or the same post he made in two other threads yesterday? Letting the developers know what he thinks? Okay, though... if I may... there is a Suggestions & Feedback forum he may want to try. It may result in less ABUSE flags on his posts.Let me ask you this, when rocket was posting every pve about tapping, a situation that directly affected dozens of people, and dozens more indirectly, where you giving him the same amount of grief? First of all, what does that situation have to do with this one? If I didn't have an opinion on tapping, does that mean I can't have an opinion on this one? As for 'grief', I'm going to disagree with you there. I thought my comment was civil. I like Broll. I upvote his comments regularly. But he's getting a bit silly with his nonconstructive comments against supports in every thread that mentions them and I shared my opinion with him. Again, to make the comparison to the tapping threads, shouldn't they have been suggestions & feedback? No, because that is a graveyard of good and bad ideas, both of which get barely looked at and rarely implemented. I don't think it is unreasonable for someone that is upset and frustrated with a feature to put snark in a thread from time to time. Telling that person they are in the minority and that they should "Try opening your mind to the possibilities," without actually explaining how to do so is the worse offense, imo. Civil or not, going out of the way to shut him down is not the path we should be applauding to take.Implementation of supports (which may be working as intended by the devs) does not seem to be working for some people. And often, those that defend it like yourself, only do so once you *luck* into a good one. I offered in my last post: please, change my mind. Tell me what support you have and how it works for you. And then, tell me how i am supposed to get it so that i can enjoy it as well. At this time I feel Support’s are a waste of time. Supports doesn’t help me get top 5 or lose top 5. Impromptu meetings and my boss calling me makes me lose top 5. Supports at this time to me personally and a lot of top end PVE players that I talk to do nothing at all. How could we tell anyway? We need RISO. We need a better way to get them besides having a pay wall to get them. If you want to make them a thing in the game for players to get behind then please make them more accessible AND let us get the resources to build them. After that, then maybe just maybe we can give true feed back.
ThaRoadWarrior said: ...it dampens my enthusiasm...
Dormammu said: ThaRoadWarrior said: ...it dampens my enthusiasm... This is the #1 problem right here. It's hard to get excited about something when we have no path to get it. I think most players would love to collect and use supports; they potentially add a whole new layer of strategy to the game.But how am I supposed to show any enthusiasm about going to Disneyland if there are no roads I can use to drive there?
Spudgutter said: Dormammu said: broll said: Borstock said: Feels like a dud support, to be honest. Redundant post is redundant. You could have just said it feels like a support. The dud is assumed when you say supports. Y'know, Broll, you can keep making this redundant post every time someone says the word 'support', but I think we get it. You don't think much of supports. But as they continue to become a bigger and bigger part of the game, you become part of a smaller and smaller minority. I didn't think much of them either, until I got one that's pretty useful. It's just a rank 2 support, nothing overly flashy, but its been pretty darn fun for me in PvE.You don't need them all. You don't even need one at rank 5. Try opening your mind to the possibilities. I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase. Lack of availability of supports and riso impact everyone, top to bottom. /|\ | THISSo, since we haven't been lucky enough to get a usable support, we should just shut up about how the chances to get them suck?Out if curiosity, what support did you get that is so much fun for you? Please enlighten, in case i am honestly doing something wrong
Dormammu said: broll said: Borstock said: Feels like a dud support, to be honest. Redundant post is redundant. You could have just said it feels like a support. The dud is assumed when you say supports. Y'know, Broll, you can keep making this redundant post every time someone says the word 'support', but I think we get it. You don't think much of supports. But as they continue to become a bigger and bigger part of the game, you become part of a smaller and smaller minority. I didn't think much of them either, until I got one that's pretty useful. It's just a rank 2 support, nothing overly flashy, but its been pretty darn fun for me in PvE.You don't need them all. You don't even need one at rank 5. Try opening your mind to the possibilities.
broll said: Borstock said: Feels like a dud support, to be honest. Redundant post is redundant. You could have just said it feels like a support. The dud is assumed when you say supports.
Borstock said: Feels like a dud support, to be honest.
purplemur said: Spudgutter said: Dormammu said: broll said: Borstock said: Feels like a dud support, to be honest. Redundant post is redundant. You could have just said it feels like a support. The dud is assumed when you say supports. Y'know, Broll, you can keep making this redundant post every time someone says the word 'support', but I think we get it. You don't think much of supports. But as they continue to become a bigger and bigger part of the game, you become part of a smaller and smaller minority. I didn't think much of them either, until I got one that's pretty useful. It's just a rank 2 support, nothing overly flashy, but its been pretty darn fun for me in PvE.You don't need them all. You don't even need one at rank 5. Try opening your mind to the possibilities. I call shenanigans. Nothing wrong with letting them know we are not happy with something that could impact large portions of the playerbase. Lack of availability of supports and riso impact everyone, top to bottom. /|\ | THISSo, since we haven't been lucky enough to get a usable support, we should just shut up about how the chances to get them suck?Out if curiosity, what support did you get that is so much fun for you? Please enlighten, in case i am honestly doing something wrong Wong helps strange right away, Milano gives a free CD, Quinjet lets C4rol proc her own special tile, Lucky debuffs incoming damage. I have all of these, that I received when they were given away for free on release, I have 20/38 supports and I am not a top competitive player, I buy the daily deal from every support release vault and I once paid actual money for the Peggy bundle cuz I wanted the cover. I like supports, I see their value and as a fanboi I like the splash of flavor.I have been extremely lucky and have a 5* support(Corvus "VisionSlayer" Glaive) that is almost halfway at 123/250. He makes Loki much stronger and adds passive damage plus a turn 2 shuffle. sometimes.This is the support I use to benefit and how you can get one.Please try them out, you give some of the smartest analysis on the forum and we could use your insight on them beyond reluctance. They will become relevant in PvP sooner than later, should at least have an understanding of which ones become meta. Why wouldn't you want a 2*>Talon Fighter+Okoye? I am doubly biased in that I am predisposed to like and am able to experience a good support.....BUT.... Absolutely the snark against supports is totally earned. Every thread discussing them should include the litany of charges against them.I got 14 riso as a reward yesterday...WTTK is that?. that is total kick in the tinykitty. How long does it take to update your vaults? I don't know whats going on in Bunglemore Mountain but they need to get their lost kitties. Get the kitties. Get them all together. get their kitty together. 5X should be the starting point for re-valuation and backpaying SCL should accompany the next phase.but to the Stepfords in particular:AGAIN they release a Support via Hero For Hire Bundle without the support. A 1:27 to get a 5* and then its dilution for a chance at said support. Suckaar Arena all over again. These 3 ability supports seem lacking in depth but the 5 tiered (classic) supports seem lacking in power. Just give us 5 perks at reasonable levels.Even with the Cuckoos : Emma still sucks. The level one perk won't help because her powers are so expensive, Second perk is ok especially with her diamond form but how much work are we needing to do to get high match dam on purple matches. And a crit multiplier is redundant at this point. high%, but still uninspired.And mirror above about the synergy perk being lacking from original build. Terrible development.