Gun Bunny said:Also technically speaking, you should be able to choose a hexproof as well; the paper version doesn't specify targets either, since you're explicitly choosing what *not* to affect.
Mburn7 said: Gun Bunny said:Also technically speaking, you should be able to choose a hexproof as well; the paper version doesn't specify targets either, since you're explicitly choosing what *not* to affect. That's wrong. Hexproom means cannot be targeted, period. Since the card requires you to target the survivor, you cannot target an opponent's hexproof creature. Its kind of funny that Hexproof is a detriment there, but that's how it works.
Elektrophorus said: Mburn7 said: Gun Bunny said:Also technically speaking, you should be able to choose a hexproof as well; the paper version doesn't specify targets either, since you're explicitly choosing what *not* to affect. That's wrong. Hexproom means cannot be targeted, period. Since the card requires you to target the survivor, you cannot target an opponent's hexproof creature. Its kind of funny that Hexproof is a detriment there, but that's how it works. Gun Bunny meant that, in paper MTG, Tragic Arrogance is a card that bypasses hexproof because it does not require targets to cast. It uses the wording “choose”, but does not explicitly target.You may view the card here: https://scryfall.com/card/ori/38
Mburn7 said: Elektrophorus said: Mburn7 said: Gun Bunny said:Also technically speaking, you should be able to choose a hexproof as well; the paper version doesn't specify targets either, since you're explicitly choosing what *not* to affect. That's wrong. Hexproom means cannot be targeted, period. Since the card requires you to target the survivor, you cannot target an opponent's hexproof creature. Its kind of funny that Hexproof is a detriment there, but that's how it works. Gun Bunny meant that, in paper MTG, Tragic Arrogance is a card that bypasses hexproof because it does not require targets to cast. It uses the wording “choose”, but does not explicitly target.You may view the card here: https://scryfall.com/card/ori/38 Are "choose" and "target" treated as different things in paper? I've never heard that before, although to be fair I don't think that has ever come up in a game I played.
I know this is an old post, but I need clarification action on Tragic Arrogance and destroying creatures with hexproof. My understanding was hexproof creatures can't be "targeted" by a spell. Tragic Arrogrance doesn't "target" other creatures not chosen, so shouldn't it destroy all creatures not picked even if they have hexproof?