Dormammu said: If they're going to nerf this guy they better do what they did to his 3-star version and bury him into the unusable category.That stunt they pulled with the 3-star nerf, while improving the 5-star version, was tinykitty.
Gold_Dragon said: Sigh. #1 Gambit is fine. there are certain teams that are “dominant” (really, they’re just “really good”) with him. You can’t just throw him on any team and auto win.
Technically true I suppose since Gambit teams sometimes loses. Still, he is much much closer to being a guaranteed win than any other character in the game.
What's particularly troublesome is that Gambit's best counter is another Gambit. The fivestar meta is very stale at the moment because practically everyone is running Gambit, and those who don't have Gambit for whatever reason cannot really compete.
Gold_Dragon said: Sigh. #1 Gambit is fine. there are certain teams that are “dominant” (really, they’re just “really good”) with him. You can’t just throw him on any team and auto win. #2 whining about him being “the meta” is laughable. Not because he isn’t (well made teams with him is), but if he’s nerfed, all you’re really gonna do is complain about the next “new meta”.just like people used to whine about Carol/Peggy/Bladeand Thanos/BP/fillerand Medusa/Gamora/Grocketand random teams with OML with only 3 coversand etc and etc
Gold_Dragon said: Sigh. How can Gambit “change the entire game” when he doesn’t = win on every team? You can’t just throw Gambit on every team and win. You mostly see Gambit with BB (a fully champed one) SS, and Gladiathor. Maybe once in a while with OML. But when he’s not with BB or SS, he’s just a pretty target that you can wreck quite easily if you simply alter your strategy.oh no. You mean I actually have to come up with a strategy to beat a team with Gambit on it other than “let’s race to get my powers off first!”? Perish the thought.of all the 5*s he’s among the most predictable. Hes 3/5/5. You can run your own Gambit and simply wait for him to fire his off his powers and then crush him. Or run a 5* Hawk team and wait for him to fire off his purple and then go for your CD combos. Or just run AA. Or just run IW Cap. Gambit is not a problem. With BB, he’s really good. And that’s fine. [b]They[/b] are the meta. Not Gambit. With a half-life Gladiathor/GS I run through most Gambit teams. Gambit/BB are my problem. But I’m sure I’ll be able to come up with something, the more 5*s I champ
The problem is still that you need to have Gambit to beat Gambit. Taking on a Gambit team without Gambit yourself is absolutely doable, but it is risky since you know he will fire his Powers eventually since he generates AP for them without making matches.
But by all means, let us look at your other suggestions for counters and see how they do:
Hawkeye - Gambit overwrites his countdowns with his Purple. Hawkeye can't do much after that.
Archangel - yes, he can deny one color. If he denies Purple, Gambit kills him with his red spam. If he denies red, Gambit overwrites the countdown with Purple.
IW Cap - same problem there.
I rarely see Gambolt in PvP anymore, it's far too risky to bring Bolt against an opposing Gambit unless Bolt is high level (about 500). Thor is by far the most common pairing. Sometimes it's Thanos. On occassion I have seen Daredevil too, but he's less common than Bolt. Lately some Ghost Rider and Jessica Jones teams have popped up too.
But the problem is still that if you have Gambit, you will need to play him practically all the time. If you don't have Gambit, you need to beat Gambit teams reliably, and that is not Always an easy task.
BlackBoltRocks said: @Quebbster save your breath. Some people just can't be reasoned with.
Quebbster said: BlackBoltRocks said: @Quebbster save your breath. Some people just can't be reasoned with. I am bored at work, I have nothing better to do anyway.
Jexman said: Is it worth leveling a 2-2-5 Gambit?
thedarkphoenix said: Just create a character hard counters him for pvp.A character that counters when a charged tile is matched or destroyed or created. One that either drains AP in a random color (like 2 per tile charged) or does damage (X for any time a charged tile is matched or destroyed and X when a charged tile is created)Make that character a 5 with Decent health and BAM the meta has shifted gambit is still strong and people have to think on both Offense and defense.
Gold_Dragon said:You wanna know the MAIN reason people are (still) calling for a nerf of Gambit? It’s because they’re still not over OML nerf. And not because he got nerfed. But the REASONING of it as well. So now, if a team/character gets too much use, the call for nerf goes out.
Jarvind said:The problem isn't just that he's overused. Panther/Thanos was overused, but I don't recall a whole lot of actual cries for a nerf, except maybe early on.
Daredevil217 said: Gold_Dragon said:You wanna know the MAIN reason people are (still) calling for a nerf of Gambit? It’s because they’re still not over OML nerf. And not because he got nerfed. But the REASONING of it as well. So now, if a team/character gets too much use, the call for nerf goes out. Whoever is flagging every one of this guy’s posts as spam needs to quit. Just because you disagree, it does not mean he should be flagged. I hate when people abuse this system and I see it way too often for my liking. Jarvind said:The problem isn't just that he's overused. Panther/Thanos was overused, but I don't recall a whole lot of actual cries for a nerf, except maybe early on. I don’t know how long you’ve been playing, but there were absolutely cries for a nerf. I remember a huge thread about the game becoming Marvel Tapping Quest because of how fast he cleared nodes and how ridiculously easy he made the game. Grocket as well got plenty of calls for a nerf for the longest time and they are STILL the meta in the 4* tier today. Over time, the cries died down. Gambit’s have as well though they aren’t completely gone as evidenced by his thread.