Daredevil217 said: I don’t know what Fury looks like boosted compared to Hulk yet but going off unboosted Numbers, Fury gets the nod.
aa25 said: MEH's purple is way too expensive. For a 14 ap power, I would expect something closer to 'I win' button. But the power itself is way too random for my test.Fury's yellow now cost only 10. Not cheap, but not too expensive either. I like it better as a power to set up the flow to win the match and it does the job quite well too.
Jaedenkaal said: Daredevil217 said: I don’t know what Fury looks like boosted compared to Hulk yet but going off unboosted Numbers, Fury gets the nod. As always, boosted to the same level the numbers will be the same ratio. Boosted to whatever level hulk does 7000 damage, Fury would do 4400 single target, 1500 team, and create S 130 Protect tiles. I'm assuming your numbers are correct, I haven't bothered to test.As to your poll, I'm not sure I can answer that without getting Hulk champed and play with him a lot more than I have. Even if Avengers Assembled is better, I never use Fury unless he's required.As a team up I'd almost certainly prefer Avengers Assembled primarily because it's cheaper (ok, the stun helps)
Daredevil217 said:I got my numbers from the last post in Fury’s thread. A poster there ran some tests.Something tells me Hulk will be a play only when required character too so I feel that’s a wash.Fury is my second most recent champ (Kate is most recent) and his boost is likely coming up soon so I’ll get to try him boosted for the first time which should be fun.
Jaedenkaal said: aa25 said: MEH's purple is way too expensive. For a 14 ap power, I would expect something closer to 'I win' button. But the power itself is way too random for my test.Fury's yellow now cost only 10. Not cheap, but not too expensive either. I like it better as a power to set up the flow to win the match and it does the job quite well too. Yes, it technically matches up poorly against super whales. I'm not sure that's the point here. It's certainly better than the other 14 AP powers in the 4* tier, namely Dive Bomb and System Shock.And the cascade potential of 5 critical tiles can approach an "I Win". Random, yes, although more likely than the 3 crit tiles you get from Avenger's Assemble. AA costing 4 less and having a 2 turn stun is clearly the difference here, and its why I'd (tentatively) give it the edge, all other things being equal.
aa25 said: I didn't mean mega-whale when I said 'I win' button. More like a power that, when you fire, you put yourself in an upper-hande situation.Chasing 14 ap to fire a power that doesn't even guarantee the outcome doesn't look good, imo. And yeah, Flappy's and Jessica's red are as worse, but different reason though.Fury's yellow is more versatile. Chasing 10 ap, to set up your game is more reasonable than 14 cp for random outcome. (I think Fury's yellow is a bit too expensive still, honestly)Just wanna add more details.
Jaedenkaal said: aa25 said: I didn't mean mega-whale when I said 'I win' button. More like a power that, when you fire, you put yourself in an upper-hande situation.Chasing 14 ap to fire a power that doesn't even guarantee the outcome doesn't look good, imo. And yeah, Flappy's and Jessica's red are as worse, but different reason though.Fury's yellow is more versatile. Chasing 10 ap, to set up your game is more reasonable than 14 cp for random outcome. (I think Fury's yellow is a bit too expensive still, honestly)Just wanna add more details. I didn't assume you did, but, it's still a fine comparison since Whales! also happens to be a Purple ability that costs 14 AP.I disagree with your second point; the reason why all three of those abilities aren't stellar is -because- they cost 14.
Sandmaker said: Personally I'd argue Nick's Yellow is in the running for the best yellow active in the game right now, maybe even one of the best stuns in the game.I just don't really like the rest of this abilities. His kit as a whole is fairly expensive, there's no synergy, and he doesn't have a passive, which is almost a prerequisite to be even considered these days. Although to be fair, two of these can be said about MEH Hulk as well.