marshall said: Surely there's some middle ground where we can play without having to grind for 4-5 hours a day for full progression? Wasn't that the realm of placement?
Dormammu said: Oh, good. I was worried we were running out of new threads discussing PvP and 40 wins.
Sandmaker said: This strat has been posted a couple times, but apparently not enough.Beat seed teams with 1*/2* team (3-8 wins)Wait a day Beat 2* retaliation nodes with 3* team (10-12 wins)Wait a dayBeat 3* retaliation nodes with 4* team (10-12 wins)Use the remaining wins to push/shield hop for placement. Takes maybe 2-3 hours of total play over 3 days for 40 wins. Almost no health packs used for the first 30 wins or so.
The rockett said: @NotBAMF it's funny. I see you comment a lot. Now I see you are a 6 month to 1 year player. You wonder why people are talking about the 40 wins? Please see the poll I posted and you voted on. Look at the percentages. That's why. The long term players know what this is doing. It is destroying the vets and progression. That's the bottom line.
Here's the thing. I feel like this is an unending back-and-forth, and I've already said everything I can say on this so many times. But I will try to once again.
I have always liked the wins-based system. I liked it when they ran it as a test. I liked it when it became the standard. Two weeks into it being the standard, I still like it. For me (and all I can speak of is myself), it has IMMENSELY increased the enjoyment of the PVP aspect of the game.
THAT SAID, when the standard changed to wins-based, I had a great deal of empathy for those who did not like the change. I get that the loss of 15 CP in progression was a shame. That was something that should not have happened, and I empathize greatly with the "old guard" of PVP players who were upset that the reward was pulled away and placed as a nonsensical progression reward.
But I still enjoyed the system. For a lot of reasons, but whatever. I shouldn't have to defend myself. I dig it. It makes PVP more fun AND more relaxed for me.
But every single day since the system changed, I can log on here and see 3-4 NEW TOPICS either threatening boycotts or bemoaning the standard change or posting baited "polls" that don't mean anything or just generally complaining in one regard or another. And you know what? It's tiring to see every day. We all get it, you know? We got it 30 topics ago. A new one isn't going to be the one that convinces everyone of whatever the point is supposed to be.
And worse than that--seriously, I can deal with people crying every day; that's fine--the players who loved the points-based PVP won't just accept that ANYONE likes the new system. Anyone who defends the new system gets insulted and told they are "wrong" or that they were too stupid to understand the old PVP system. There's no respect of "I can see why you might enjoy the new system, but it's not for me". By and large--and I don't mean to make sweeping generalizations here, but for the most part--if anyone tries to defend the wins-base system, they are just insulted and indirectly called "n00bs" or whatever. You know... like you did in your reply to me by basically saying because I haven't been playing for a year, I don't know as much as people who've been playing longer. And in a lot of regards, I don't; that's true. But I DO know what I enjoy. And I enjoy the wins-based system. Just because people who've played for 1000 days don't... that doesn't affect MY enjoyment. Why should it?
So I understand. I feel bad. I wish there was a system in place that made everyone happy. I do. I wish the 15 CP reward hadn't been taken away from those folks who could actually get 1200 points in the old system. That sucks. I get it.
But nuts to you if your feelings are "All these idiot n00bs are too stupid to even know they shouldn't like this new system". I have no patience or respect for that. And, frankly, I'm beyond tired of seeing people need to make several new topics about it EVERY SINGLE DAY.
NotBAMF said:But every single day since the system changed, I can log on here and see 3-4 NEW TOPICS either threatening boycotts or bemoaning the standard change or posting baited "polls" that don't mean anything or just generally complaining in one regard or another. And you know what? It's tiring to see every day. And, frankly, I'm beyond tired of seeing people need to make several new topics about it EVERY SINGLE DAY.
But every single day since the system changed, I can log on here and see 3-4 NEW TOPICS either threatening boycotts or bemoaning the standard change or posting baited "polls" that don't mean anything or just generally complaining in one regard or another. And you know what? It's tiring to see every day.
And, frankly, I'm beyond tired of seeing people need to make several new topics about it EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Here is the thing, we know it will not change now but us as commanders and trying to run alliances are trying to plan for next season already. This has a MAJOR impact on a lot of us and how we are going to move forward.
Stax the Foyer said: The worst thing that could happen would be for there to be continued radio silence on this, and the next season rolling out with the exact same format.