Sarahschmara said: AFAIK, creatures' ETB effects didn't trigger when stolen (although they briefly triggered when returned--thankfully that's been fixed!).
hawkyh1 said: my experience is creatures borrowed for the turn(eg turn against) don't trigger etb. creaturespermanently changing sides (lay claim) doestrigger etb.HH
Laeuftbeidir said: Era of innovation triggers, when a creature with artificier enters the battlefield - as far as I know there are no such tokens.
wereotter said: Laeuftbeidir said: Era of innovation triggers, when a creature with artificier enters the battlefield - as far as I know there are no such tokens. Era of Innivation also triggers upon a support entering the battlefield. I've not tested it personally, but I believe what's implied here is it is not triggering on support tokens like clues and servos.
Nathanyel said: How about the fact that reinforced creatures count as multiples for Embalm or if named Scrapheap Scrounger, but NOT when bounced to hand/deck or in the case of Despoiler of Souls?Don't get me wrong—I understand limited screen space is why they went with the reinforcing idea instead of allowing a player to have 2-3 identical creatures on his/her field at a time. HOWEVER...once a creature has been reinforced, it should count as ONE CREATURE for ALL further purposes—embalm, in-graveyard effects, bounce, whatever—NOT as one creature for some, and multiple creatures for others.