Muche wrote: More examples of nuances of Disabled + ETB: I have Authority of the Consuls on the battlefield, the opponent casts Conclave Naturalists. Naturalists' ETB ability triggers, destroying Authority, Authority doesn't trigger, Naturalists remain enabled. The opponent has Suppression Bonds. I cast Volcanic Rambler (onto empty battlefield). Rambler gets disabled before its ETB ability triggers.
blacklotus wrote: I don't see any discrepancy between council or suppression/claustrophobia. The latter disables the first slot of the battlefield. Council doesn't disable any slot at all. Council only disables the critter after it has entered the battlefield.
wereotter wrote: blacklotus wrote: I don't see any discrepancy between council or suppression/claustrophobia. The latter disables the first slot of the battlefield. Council doesn't disable any slot at all. Council only disables the critter after it has entered the battlefield. It's not. But I would think the point if disabling it till the end of your turn is hardly that big a thing. It really just buys you a turn if your opponent summons a creature with defender or reach. It should be able to shut down ETB effects. That would make the card more viable. On that note, do we know if Thalia behaves the same way? I'd feel much less bad about losing her if she doesn't shut down ETB effects.
blacklotus wrote: Council only disables the critter after it has entered the battlefield.
wereotter wrote: On that note, do we know if Thalia behaves the same way? I'd feel much less bad about losing her if she doesn't shut down ETB effects.