Corn Noodles wrote: span_argoman wrote: Skyraker Giant is not a solution for Runaway Carriage in the Platinum tier. Of course it isn't and I never suggested it was. People in the Platinum tier have better counters and the cry over RC is not coming from Platinum.
span_argoman wrote: Skyraker Giant is not a solution for Runaway Carriage in the Platinum tier.
span_argoman wrote: Corn Noodles wrote: span_argoman wrote: Skyraker Giant is not a solution for Runaway Carriage in the Platinum tier. Of course it isn't and I never suggested it was. People in the Platinum tier have better counters and the cry over RC is not coming from Platinum. I'm curious to hear what these better counters in Platinum are for mono-Red against Runaway Carriage, especially one with Unblockable (whether from Rogue's Passage or Skeleton Key) and Reach/Flying+Vigilance. And I believe the massive thread about Runaway Carriage when SoI was first released showed people from all tiers making noise about it.
Pqmtg- wrote: span_argoman wrote: Corn Noodles wrote: span_argoman wrote: Skyraker Giant is not a solution for Runaway Carriage in the Platinum tier. Of course it isn't and I never suggested it was. People in the Platinum tier have better counters and the cry over RC is not coming from Platinum. I'm curious to hear what these better counters in Platinum are for mono-Red against Runaway Carriage, especially one with Unblockable (whether from Rogue's Passage or Skeleton Key) and Reach/Flying+Vigilance. And I believe the massive thread about Runaway Carriage when SoI was first released showed people from all tiers making noise about it. RC has all but disappeared from platinum. It is too slow and people have found ways to beat it before they die the slow death. It's also worthy to note that mono red is very rare for this reason. Saheeli was a godsend to many people, and sarkan was always available(not great because languish isn't a confirmed removal) Mono reds holdouts remaining are usually burn decks with harness the storm. The idea is that RC cannot out damage you, so why worry?
Pqmtg- wrote: Beat down koth is very strong but has 2 weaknesses : uc decks shut it down, and mass removal takes away it's tempo easily. The danger of facing uc decks has made everyone put in mass removal, so it's kind of a meta thing. Koth certainly is rarer to meet now.
span_argoman wrote: Pqmtg- wrote: Beat down koth is very strong but has 2 weaknesses : uc decks shut it down, and mass removal takes away it's tempo easily. The danger of facing uc decks has made everyone put in mass removal, so it's kind of a meta thing. Koth certainly is rarer to meet now. UC gets dealt with by Scour from Existence now. Mass removal is not that significant considering how easily Koth can throw down another full board. Mass removal is really either Blue or the occasional Descend Upon the Sinful. I fail to see how it is more affected by mass removal than other decks. I would think White and Green with their ever-growing creatures get affected more.
Pqmtg- wrote: I'm so sorry. I meant to type RC, not uc.