A bunch of buffs happened

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Phumade said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Look I can appreciate the criticism of players putting everything in the Polaris basket and then crying when nerfed but 2* Moonstone? How are we supposed to know that 2* Moonstone is going to suddenly become a goddess?!? These buffs are going to end up just as inconsistent as the nerfs!

    lol did you forget your first year of mpq? Moonstone was a tank. Her red could easily one shot your best 3* at the time. Can't remember how many times I lost to the enemy moonstone. The only thing funny is how switched her play has changed from when you first start using her. In her original role, you were playing for the red nuke and the warp was a hard to play gadget move.

    Now your playing the purple nuke to start and use the red as knockout for SAP generators. Different but still plays the same way as before.

    My first year of MPQ did not involve Moonstone rocking my world!

    I think he's assuming you started back in the Dark Ages like us.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,883 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @Phumade said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Look I can appreciate the criticism of players putting everything in the Polaris basket and then crying when nerfed but 2* Moonstone? How are we supposed to know that 2* Moonstone is going to suddenly become a goddess?!? These buffs are going to end up just as inconsistent as the nerfs!

    lol did you forget your first year of mpq? Moonstone was a tank. Her red could easily one shot your best 3* at the time. Can't remember how many times I lost to the enemy moonstone. The only thing funny is how switched her play has changed from when you first start using her. In her original role, you were playing for the red nuke and the warp was a hard to play gadget move.

    Now your playing the purple nuke to start and use the red as knockout for SAP generators. Different but still plays the same way as before.

    My first year of MPQ did not involve Moonstone rocking my world!

    I think he's assuming you started back in the Dark Ages like us.

    Yeah, looks like. I'm only 10 years or so in. Only, lol.

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 742 Critical Contributor

    Should I be afraid of this team?

    Not at all! 1* Hawkeye has been buffed!! And who says you need to go all the way when a 1a4 will do. The champions of the match were...

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,093 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 21 October 2025, 22:44

    @Godzillafan67 said:
    Should I be afraid of this team?

    Not at all! 1* Hawkeye has been buffed!! And who says you need to go all the way when a 1a4 will do. The champions of the match were...

    Like I said, this game is so stupid right now.

  • Xception81
    Xception81 Posts: 435 Mover and Shaker
    edited 21 October 2025, 22:46

    @Godzillafan67 said:
    Should I be afraid of this team?

    Not at all! 1* Hawkeye has been buffed!! And who says you need to go all the way when a 1a4 will do. The champions of the match were...

    Just curious, but what is Daredevil bringing? The yellow stun (why not use Melinda May for her cheaper blue stun)? Or the health increase (why not use Iron May who also buffs match, power, and health levels)?

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 742 Critical Contributor

    @Xception81 said:

    @Godzillafan67 said:
    Should I be afraid of this team?

    Not at all! 1* Hawkeye has been buffed!! And who says you need to go all the way when a 1a4 will do. The champions of the match were...

    Just curious, but what is Daredevil bringing? The yellow stun (why not use Melinda May for her cheaper blue stun)? Or the health increase (why not use Iron May who also buffs match, power, and health levels)?

    Daredevil creates yellow tiles whenever you fire a power. Even with her damage boosting, Iron May is slower than simply stunning the target.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Godzillafan67 said:
    Should I be afraid of this team?

    Not at all! 1* Hawkeye has been buffed!! And who says you need to go all the way when a 1a4 will do. The champions of the match were...

    Here's the thing: when somebody says "the game keeps showing me teams I can't beat"...they're almost always either lying or just not trying hard enough. (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    I run 672/672/500 in almost every event, and sometimes it's 672/672/650, and I lose to nonsense all the time. You have such a massive advantage on offense, and there's so many cheap ways to win. Very weak rosters were clearing cl10 PvE for years, and those guys are huge.

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,917 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 22 October 2025 03:52

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    So say "teams I can't beat without using a health pack" instead of "teams I can't beat."

    They're two VERY different things.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,917 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    So say "teams I can't beat without using a health pack" instead of "teams I can't beat."

    They're two VERY different things.

    But if I never try those teams (and I don't) then how do I know whether I can beat them or not even if it costs a pack? I'm legit not sure of the answer in a lot of cases.

    KGB

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,874 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 22 October 2025 04:13

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    Uh? They do in fact let you do this. You can buy health packs with HP. I used to do it all the time and still do occasionally.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    So say "teams I can't beat without using a health pack" instead of "teams I can't beat."

    They're two VERY different things.

    But if I never try those teams (and I don't) then how do I know whether I can beat them or not even if it costs a pack? I'm legit not sure of the answer in a lot of cases.

    KGB

    Wait wait wait. Now they're "teams that you MIGHT not be able to beat without using a health pack?"

    What even is this? Just fight people and find out!

  • kuntilanak
    kuntilanak Posts: 246 Tile Toppler

    Reason for 2*Moonstone being buffed is simple: she's EVERYWHERE in PVE AI nodes.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,883 Chairperson of the Boards

    Pegor seems pretty good now -I beat the 4th clear of the 5E with her, unchamped Sunspot and level 481 Nova/Frankie and she was the mvp. Those bad guys on that clear have well over a million health together!

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 801 Critical Contributor

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    So say "teams I can't beat without using a health pack" instead of "teams I can't beat."

    They're two VERY different things.

    But if I never try those teams (and I don't) then how do I know whether I can beat them or not even if it costs a pack? I'm legit not sure of the answer in a lot of cases.

    KGB

    How will you ever do if you don't try?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,883 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    As a guy with only the standard 10 health packs to his name I can appreciate where you are coming from BUT are you not basically a super hoarder? In which case you probably have at least hundreds of health packs? Or am I thinking of somebody else? I know you definitely hoard! So if my assumption is correct you can probably spare a few for 30 minutes?

    Also call me insane but I have bought health packs for HP and there is always the two Taco vaults for times I ran out of packs with business still to settle!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BriMan2222 said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    (Sometimes, I've learned that this phrase actually translates to "teams I can't beat without using a health pack," and that is just not the same thing at all).

    You can beat every team that matchmaking shows you. Mess around with different teams and try.

    Not everyone has 1 billion health packs like you do. Some players have so few that they are actually playing on the free ones. If you want to play a 30 minute session and you only get 10 packs and every battle takes one or more you are going to play for maybe 5 minutes and your done. That's absolutely NOT FUN.

    And no one sane is going to pay cash for health packs. If they let you swap other resources for packs (HP, ISO, RISO etc) it would help. Or if they let you get all 24 hrs worth of pack regeneration at once (which would be a fair amount of packs) it would help as well since many people do not have lots of different times they can log in to play.

    But until that time you are going to keep hearing teams I can't beat and it's a legit concern. It's why the true healing supports on SAPs are so prized.

    KGB

    Uh? They do in fact let you do this. You can buy health packs with HP. I used to do it all the time and still do occasionally.

    I didn't even catch that they said that. I do this a million times every event. They give out so much HP now, what else are people spending it on? Roster slots still? Just hoarding it forever? 200 HP for 5 packs is nothing.

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