New Character - Red Skull (Johann Schmidt) 5*

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

They can't ever stop releasing new characters because that's how they make money.

If the release cadence stops or dramatically slows down, that's how you'll know that they're wrapping up the game.

You have said this many times. Is that the only way they make money? Why can't they just skip one or two while focusing on fixing things? Agree if they slowed down for very long it would indicate bad things.

Bonus is they could communicate this... something+about+skipping+a+release to+focus+on+fixing+things.

Bi-weekly release could be a contractural requirement. Not that any of us would know.

I think skipping releases would be a terrible signal. Give the impression things are THAT BAD, could crash morale (yes, even farther) and initiate a cascading downward spiral. Or, drastically accelereate any existing cascading downward spiral.

As an aside, does anybody else's brain, when seeing "Red Skull (Johann Schmidt)" immediately think of John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? Could just be me. That just gets stuck in my head everytime I see it.

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

He's deceptively strong for sure and I'm almost certain he needs to be 3/5/5. The red and blue compliment each other perfectly and if you're running with Zemo to reduce his ability cost you're firing those powers very frequently so the damage boost ramps up pretty quick, especially because hydra tiles count as special tiles. I also THINK the damage boost and healing is stacking with each cast. I might be wrong about that because so many things seem to be triggering it's kinda hard to keep track.

The problem will be speed. If you last a few turns so that tiles start activating then it's literally hundreds of thousands of damage with Zemo per hydra tiles expiration. Will he last that long against JuggsSam? No

@LavaManLee said:
As an aside, does anybody else's brain, when seeing "Red Skull (Johann Schmidt)" immediately think of John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt? Could just be me. That just gets stuck in my head everytime I see it.

Honest answer: I keep thinking ‘that’s not how you spell Hugo Weaving’

@ThisisClemFandango said:
What's the build consensus on this guy? I was thinking 454?

Same here, at least initially

@Bustapup said:

@JoeHandle said:

@ThisisClemFandango said:
What's the build consensus on this guy? I was thinking 454?

Same here, at least initially

I definitely think 3/5/5. The damage bonus from his blue is too good and black is more conditional on the enemy creating tiles he can remove. The red is getting progressively stronger each tick but when it's powered by the blue is going to absolutely smack at high levels

If black removed more than one tile per turn I'd think it's more valuable

@Bustapup said:

@JoeHandle said:

@ThisisClemFandango said:
What's the build consensus on this guy? I was thinking 454?

Same here, at least initially

I definitely think 3/5/5. The damage bonus from his blue is too good and black is more conditional on the enemy creating tiles he can remove. The red is getting progressively stronger each tick but when it's powered by the blue is going to absolutely smack at high levels

If black removed more than one tile per turn I'd think it's more valuable

At this point .... probably for the general case. I'll see when I have more covers. Vs tile spammers, it may be best to have black at 5, big dmg jump there. It seems like red should be at 5 ... but haven't confirmed that ... and if fighting board shakers / destroyers, maybe not. But I think this guy and the other Hydra bros will always be weak vs board destruction, as they are fueled by tiles remaining on the board.

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

They can't ever stop releasing new characters because that's how they make money.

If the release cadence stops or dramatically slows down, that's how you'll know that they're wrapping up the game.

You have said this many times. Is that the only way they make money? Why can't they just skip one or two while focusing on fixing things? Agree if they slowed down for very long it would indicate bad things.

Bonus is they could communicate this... something+about+skipping+a+release to+focus+on+fixing+things.

I laughed so hard when I read this. How did that even happen? We are realsing six stars so everyone has+to+talk+like+this.

@JoeHandle said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

They can't ever stop releasing new characters because that's how they make money.

If the release cadence stops or dramatically slows down, that's how you'll know that they're wrapping up the game.

You have said this many times. Is that the only way they make money? Why can't they just skip one or two while focusing on fixing things? Agree if they slowed down for very long it would indicate bad things.

Bonus is they could communicate this... something+about+skipping+a+release to+focus+on+fixing+things.

Bi-weekly release could be a contractural requirement. Not that any of us would know.

I think skipping releases would be a terrible signal. Give the impression things are THAT BAD, could crash morale (yes, even farther) and initiate a cascading downward spiral. Or, drastically accelereate any existing cascading downward spiral.

Personally, I have been playing the game since the unity update, and yeah, it's that bad.

You could be right about contracts, and ok they may need to keep releasing characters at their normal cadence. They didn't need to revamp the whole game by introducing 6*s that nobody asked for. I am sorry, but i am not buying that they can't fix the game because of contractual obligations.

@entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:
Can someone post a vid of him slappin, cuz I am not seeing it on paper. > @entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

They can't ever stop releasing new characters because that's how they make money.

If the release cadence stops or dramatically slows down, that's how you'll know that they're wrapping up the game.

They can explain it to everyone and pause a release or two. Nobody said they had stop indefinitely. Or do you think the bugs are so bad that it will take months to fix?

Explain it to who? Marvel? Amazon? Their employees' families?

"Hey listen guys, we'd really like to pay you this month but we had to pause our whole business to fix the plus signs in the in game chat. Maybe next month!"

It didn't take them a month to fix the + issue, it has been fixed. Or so I thought, until I tried to type a + in the chat. It converts the + to a space. They just slapped some duct tape on the issue. You didn't remove the bodies, you just removed the headstones! Lmao.

These poor devs man, they must be running ragged.

@JoeHandle said:

@heybub said:

@JoeHandle said:

@TheXMan said:

@entrailbucket said:

@heybub said:

@Gymp28 said:
I think people need to chill out a bit over how ‘terrible’ this red skull release is.
He’s got several self compounding abilities (Y’know, kinda like a certain character they’ve just nerfed into the ground?)

Yes his damage starts off poor, but I think it will ramp up quicker than people are accounting for:
Dust of death @ Lvl450: Deal 1299 damage, increasing by 326 per activation
These are 2 1 turn repeater tiles created per time this cheap ability is fired.
These will likely also count as special tiles for ‘In pursuit of the Cube’:
@ lvl 450: Burst heal for 3740 health (not super relevant). When this repeater tile is on the board Deal 416 additional damage to enemies per friendly special tile on the board - I’m pretty sure repeaters count as friendly special tiles?

Plus this will presumably be so much more viable once they nerf MThor into the ground soon*TM

Pair Red Skull with Agatha and Toni Ho and you’re surely off to the races?

It also provides another option to make protect tile teams viable, as if you’ve managed to spam SAP tiles you’ll be dealing an additional 416 damage per one of these on the board, with any powers and matches made. That’s potentially huge!

All of the above encourages you to kill him off early in the fight, but if you do that he becomes an AP battery. I honestly really like the design, and maybe others would too if they took a breath?

I think I am just still pissed off the game is still broken and the devs are pushing out new features. Fix the game, then focus on new improvements.

On paper, Skull looks weak, but maybe I was wrong. It's not always easy to tell based on the description, or maybe the numbers they published were incorrect. I hope he is good, that would be awesome, but I still stand by "fix the **** game".

They can't ever stop releasing new characters because that's how they make money.

If the release cadence stops or dramatically slows down, that's how you'll know that they're wrapping up the game.

You have said this many times. Is that the only way they make money? Why can't they just skip one or two while focusing on fixing things? Agree if they slowed down for very long it would indicate bad things.

Bonus is they could communicate this... something+about+skipping+a+release to+focus+on+fixing+things.

Bi-weekly release could be a contractural requirement. Not that any of us would know.

I think skipping releases would be a terrible signal. Give the impression things are THAT BAD, could crash morale (yes, even farther) and initiate a cascading downward spiral. Or, drastically accelereate any existing cascading downward spiral.

Personally, I have been playing the game since the unity update, and yeah, it's that bad.

You could be right about contracts, and ok they may need to keep releasing characters at their normal cadence. They didn't need to revamp the whole game by introducing 6*s that nobody asked for. I am sorry, but i am not buying that they can't fix the game because of contractual obligations.

Dear internet person, I did not say they couldn't fix the game due to contractural obligations.
I said, in response to the dubious speculation that releases are preventing game from being "fixed", that character releases may be contracturally obligated.

In order to read that as "contractural obligations block game fixes", one has to buy into your assertion that "char releases block game fixes", which I do not buy into. That in your head, not mine, would come from your mouth, not mine ... are you responding to yourself?

And added my own speculation that missing the one thing that has been so constant could send negative waves internally and externally.

I would extend that to suggest that that could undermine game fixing efforts, by undermining company morale, and further eroding player engagement and spending. But that's my speculation.

I apologize if i misread into your comment about contracts. I may have mixed up your comment with someone elses about contracts.

I do believe that to release new characters it takes resources to implement them into the game. These are resources that could be utilized on fixes. They also needed testing of the new characters, which takes resources, resources that could be used to better test the game so that patches don't introduce new bugs. You can see the lack of resources they have in the bugs that continue to pursist and how they glossed over the + problem in the chat, for examples.

Maybe releasing 6*s and continuing to release new characters was the best decision they could have made. It doesn't mean I have to accept it. I am a consumer of this game, it is a relased product, and it is not acceptable in its current state. From my perspective they are spending resources releasing new features instead of fixing the game, and I am voicing my frustration about that.

It is also looked to me like they were trying to distract us from the bugs with a shiny new release. Red Skull has been requested for years, and the timing of his release looks like suspicious. I am calling them out on this, because I would rather see the game fixed.