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@BriMan2222 said:
I don't have much hope there. Chasm is the one and only nerf in the history of the game that wasn't crushed by the nerf bat, and he was the new devs first character creation. He was their baby, I'm sure that was a big factor as to why they were gentle with him.
Uhhh what lol? Chasm got nerfed 10x more than necessary. They hit every aspect of his powers. I only bother using him when I want the start of battle stun now.
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@entrailbucket said:
I guess it's funny because, again, folks ask for them to buff the unused characters instead of nerfing the overused ones, so they actually do it, and make Puck good. Then nobody notices because they haven't leveled him up, because he was unused.That's perhaps an inditement on how little they do to promote the buffs. Running a special store/vault would help grab people's attention, injecting them into the play rotation in some way as a required character would "force" players to see the results of their work. Dropping a forum post (if they remember) is less likely to get players to reevaluate a character that has already been relegated to the "only when required" category.
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@entrailbucket said:
I guess it's funny because, again, folks ask for them to buff the unused characters instead of nerfing the overused ones, so they actually do it, and make Puck good. Then nobody notices because they haven't leveled him up, because he was unused.I think you might have to understand that not everyone is in a position to ascend Puck. I bow to your knowledge and accept he might be awesome but I and a lot of other players don't yet have a max champed Puck yet alone an ascended one. Honest question - is Puck so amazing that I should now concentrate on only maxing him, getting a dupe and then ascending? Or is he just one of the ascended guys you just have in your locker which is great? You could probably tell me that another 20 ascended characters are great but they are not in my reach. So 4* Puck for now remains meh for me even if he can be great.
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@DAZ0273 said:
@entrailbucket said:
I guess it's funny because, again, folks ask for them to buff the unused characters instead of nerfing the overused ones, so they actually do it, and make Puck good. Then nobody notices because they haven't leveled him up, because he was unused.I think you might have to understand that not everyone is in a position to ascend Puck. I bow to your knowledge and accept he might be awesome but I and a lot of other players don't yet have a max champed Puck yet alone an ascended one. Honest question - is Puck so amazing that I should now concentrate on only maxing him, getting a dupe and then ascending? Or is he just one of the ascended guys you just have in your locker which is great? You could probably tell me that another 20 ascended characters are great but they are not in my reach. So 4* Puck for now remains meh for me even if he can be great.
He has the Thanos Copter tile spinning ability as a passive every time he makes a match, and every time he loses 10% of his health he passively AoEs for 10k, which means killing him costs your team 100k health (at lvl480, unboosted... multiply by 2.5 or so for boost week). He has 3 active abilities at 6ap that are mostly fine.
He does need to tank to get maximum value, but he's pretty good.
I'm confused about how anyone wouldn't be in a position to ascend anyone. We have bonus heroes, cover swapping...I see 550 Juggernauts and M'bakus and even 3* Namors everywhere. Sure, you might have to target Puck to get any use out of him, but why is that different than any other character?
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@toecutter3095 said:
@entrailbucket said:
I guess it's funny because, again, folks ask for them to buff the unused characters instead of nerfing the overused ones, so they actually do it, and make Puck good. Then nobody notices because they haven't leveled him up, because he was unused.That's perhaps an inditement on how little they do to promote the buffs. Running a special store/vault would help grab people's attention, injecting them into the play rotation in some way as a required character would "force" players to see the results of their work. Dropping a forum post (if they remember) is less likely to get players to reevaluate a character that has already been relegated to the "only when required" category.
They absolutely should, but I'm not sure how much it would help. I just don't think those players are being honest about what they want. Many players prefer a game where only a few characters matter and the rest can be ignored.
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I championed Puck as soon as I read his buffdate (I really liked the changes). He suffers from the same problem at 4star as MBaku does though, the match damage is just useless, and they both require it.
However, once MBaku gets to 5 star, his match damage goes off the rails without a ton of levels, and Puck still needs a lot of levels to get his best value. I often considered ascending him regardless because who doesn't want a free Thanoscopter?
I think what Daz was mentioning though wasn't "should I ascend Puck ever", more so, "why should I choose puck over, MBaku, Juggs, Coulson, Multiman etc. when it's going to take months for lower level players to get there".
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@WhiteBomber said:
I championed Puck as soon as I read his buffdate (I really liked the changes). He suffers from the same problem at 4star as MBaku does though, the match damage is just useless, and they both require it.However, once MBaku gets to 5 star, his match damage goes off the rails without a ton of levels, and Puck still needs a lot of levels to get his best value. I often considered ascending him regardless because who doesn't want a free Thanoscopter?
I think what Daz was mentioning though wasn't "should I ascend Puck ever", more so, "why should I choose puck over, MBaku, Juggs, Coulson, Multiman etc. when it's going to take months for lower level players to get there".
Hey, that's my line!
No, I get it, re: ascension priorities. But what he (or somebody else? I have already forgotten) said was that Puck was bad (or useless, or something like that).
And that's a completely different question entirely! Like M'baku is also pretty bad at 4*, but nobody says he's a worthless character.
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@Seph1roth5 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
I don't have much hope there. Chasm is the one and only nerf in the history of the game that wasn't crushed by the nerf bat, and he was the new devs first character creation. He was their baby, I'm sure that was a big factor as to why they were gentle with him.
Uhhh what lol? Chasm got nerfed 10x more than necessary. They hit every aspect of his powers. I only bother using him when I want the start of battle stun now.
I'll just go ahead and refer you back to my comment the last time you made the crazy claim that chasm was nerfed too much...
...concensus was that he's the best nerf they've done and how we'd like to see nerfs handled.
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@entrailbucket said:
@WhiteBomber said:
I championed Puck as soon as I read his buffdate (I really liked the changes). He suffers from the same problem at 4star as MBaku does though, the match damage is just useless, and they both require it.However, once MBaku gets to 5 star, his match damage goes off the rails without a ton of levels, and Puck still needs a lot of levels to get his best value. I often considered ascending him regardless because who doesn't want a free Thanoscopter?
I think what Daz was mentioning though wasn't "should I ascend Puck ever", more so, "why should I choose puck over, MBaku, Juggs, Coulson, Multiman etc. when it's going to take months for lower level players to get there".
Hey, that's my line!
No, I get it, re: ascension priorities. But what he (or somebody else? I have already forgotten) said was that Puck was bad (or useless, or something like that).
And that's a completely different question entirely! Like M'baku is also pretty bad at 4*, but nobody says he's a worthless character.
Oh yeah, he's definitely a useless 4 star, but I would love to lab him as a higher level 5. I think his changes weren't big enough for people to immediately ascend him, but surely most people just didn't pay much attention (even though he got that sweet outfit!
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Also, that damn Thanoscopter immediately stole his thunder. Those rotations hurt a whole lot more when it's Juggs, Chasm or someone else's match damage.
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