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  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    @unphoto said:
    I normally never comment on community post but this just pissed me off:

    Strange such strong language isn't more specifically worded:

    1. What is considered aggresious? 100, 200?
    2. Why is this only mentioned on this forum where most of the community hardly visits. Only scouters and new players show up on a regular. Post this on your Socials as well or are you afraid of the already growing dissatisfaction getting a bigger base?
    3. Push this warning thru the ingame news popup so NOBODY can plead plausible deniability.
    4. What metrics are you using? How would you discern some 5* shard winnings from the current vaults from 5* shards that would stem from your mentioned "exploit".
      You need to stipulate allot more then threatening what a roll back hammer.

    Focus on polishing the game, instead applying team resources on monitoring a loophole, your team left there to begin with.

    Why not just ban the ..who did this. People want to complain (like me) that the broken game isn't getting fix) it's not getting fix that fast cause they got to fix bugs where people are taking advantage of

    This is the same **** that goes on every week at target with pokemon cards clearly states 1 per guess per day but people come by 1 checkout come back 20 more time repeat then have the balls to gloat how many packs they got. They are lucky I'm off for next 4 weeks due to surgery or maybe I started punching them in their hoader faces

    How can you say the basic player will not be missing out on anything. Unless you leave the vaults up for good. Say it takes a month to fix it those vaults will go into post vault meaning rewards will be random

    I still say ban the people who did this. Maybe I'm just saying this cause I'm grumpy in pain (gallbladder surgery was today at 12 got home at 5. Know sharing to much,

    Personally I don't care about a push getting all tokens at later date that does nothing. Punish the people who took advantage of your system or they will just keep doing it Everytime the find an open window

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BobDucca said:
    While I'm sure your dev team would have preferred to be working on other issues/enhancements, I appreciate your taking this approach so that my normal gameplay behavior wouldn't have resulted in my getting my account rolled back. Thank you.

    Cases like this if they are not joking or miss reading it. This is the main reason I will never put a new penny into this game.

    So your normal gameplay is to take advanage for bugs in the game to give you an unfair advantage. If true this game has fallen so badly I would touch it with a stick

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 454 Mover and Shaker

    @S0kun said:
    A hot fix was also released yesterday, but the bug is still exploitable if an update isn't done so in order to mitigate this, we're going to disable Daily Play tokens in our next data push until further notice.

    During this time, you will not miss out on any potentially earned tokens because we'll be tallying the number of missed Daily Play Tokens from DDQ, Fan Favorite, and Winter in July vaults. Once we're confident the issue has been resolved, we'll be sending the total amount of missed tokens to all Unity players at a future date.

    @S0kun can you clarify whether the data push was not yet implemented or whether it simply failed? I find it incredibly frustrating that those Unity players who did not download the hotfix continue to receive daily tokens, while those who updated the latest version don’t.

    I clearly am missing out ‘on potentially earned tokens’ just by updating the game, contrary to what your post here claims. The Winter in July vault is too valuable to have such a mismatch between players. And I am not talking about manually restarting the game repeatedly, just about receive daily FF and Winter vault tokens.

  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 150 Tile Toppler

    @slidecage said:
    I still say ban the people who did this. Maybe I'm just saying this cause I'm grumpy in pain (gallbladder surgery was today at 12 got home at 5. Know sharing to much,

    In the vein of sharing too much:
    You young people have it easy, in my time you did not go home the day of gall bladder surgery. Noooooo, you had to remain in the hospital for a week with drainage tubes, unable to stand or walk to a toilet.
    They used to cut open your complete belly, through the muscles, to get at that bad behaving bladder of bile. Nowadays you get a few small cuts and they go in with little tentacles and snip snip remove it.
    Still hurts like hell I've been told, but nowhere near what my experience was, my scars still hurt now and then 20+ years later. Worth it to get rid of the gall stone attacks.

    I now return you to your normal programming of spewing bile on who should or should not get banned.

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    @Zarqa No cause for concern, all daily tokens were switched off for everyone, regardless of whether they updated or not, so you’re not ‘falling behind’ by that metric

  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 15 July 2025, 11:42

    @stef_focus said:

    @slidecage said:
    I still say ban the people who did this. Maybe I'm just saying this cause I'm grumpy in pain (gallbladder surgery was today at 12 got home at 5. Know sharing to much,

    In the vein of sharing too much:
    You young people have it easy, in my time you did not go home the day of gall bladder surgery. Noooooo, you had to remain in the hospital for a week with drainage tubes, unable to stand or walk to a toilet.
    They used to cut open your complete belly, through the muscles, to get at that bad behaving bladder of bile. Nowadays you get a few small cuts and they go in with little tentacles and snip snip remove it.
    Still hurts like hell I've been told, but nowhere near what my experience was, my scars still hurt now and then 20+ years later. Worth it to get rid of the gall stone attacks.

    I now return you to your normal programming of spewing bile on who should or should not get banned.

    Yea I was worried big time about that had a major attack on the June 6 went to follow up on June 23 and goes the tube is like 9mm so it looks like some loose stones but wasn't in pain it past. But we may have to keep you and send tube down next day
    Funny thing is when I woke up at 445 they go ready to. Go home and told them no..but they didn't hear me cause they was too buzzy pushing my clothes on me and putting me in a wheelchair where I threw up in a bag .I told them see and they go u be fine and shove me in the car 🚗

    No w back to topic why should people get punished they knew it was a bug yet they abused the hell out of it.
    t

    Really though. Wouldn't these vaults be closed long before we get the token

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,260 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Gymp28 said:
    @Zarqa No cause for concern, all daily tokens were switched off for everyone, regardless of whether they updated or not, so you’re not ‘falling behind’ by that metric

    This simply isn't true, unless someone is forced into Unity 2.0 or 1.1 or whatever, the new update, they can still mine tokens.

    There are people who are doing that. Maybe they'll be rolled back or banned after all, but who knows?

  • SaltyRepertoire48
    SaltyRepertoire48 Posts: 23 Just Dropped In

    Quick question. If you guys broke it in a day, just how long is it going to take for you to fix it?

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    @bluewolf said:

    @Gymp28 said:
    @Zarqa No cause for concern, all daily tokens were switched off for everyone, regardless of whether they updated or not, so you’re not ‘falling behind’ by that metric

    This simply isn't true, unless someone is forced into Unity 2.0 or 1.1 or whatever, the new update, they can still mine tokens.

    There are people who are doing that. Maybe they'll be rolled back or banned after all, but who knows?

    Huh, then I guess I was forcibly updated without realising… my mistake

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,325 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

    @Gymp28 said:
    @Zarqa No cause for concern, all daily tokens were switched off for everyone, regardless of whether they updated or not, so you’re not ‘falling behind’ by that metric

    This simply isn't true, unless someone is forced into Unity 2.0 or 1.1 or whatever, the new update, they can still mine tokens.

    There are people who are doing that. Maybe they'll be rolled back or banned after all, but who knows?

    If you can't answer this then I understand but...how are they managing to avoid the update? I thought the game forced you into updating after a certain period?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,260 Chairperson of the Boards

    My understanding is that the game is not forcing anyone to update unlike the old engine did when a new version came out.

    Perhaps they haven't nailed down that functionality yet. Presumably they would want that to be something that happens.

    As far as updating, if a user has auto-update on, obviously that would trigger an update but I presume (from my limited experience; I do not use it) it only checks periodically for updates since most apps do not bar you from using them if you don't have the newest version, not for quite a while. So maybe it updated over the weekend but not immediately etc.

    @SaltyRepertoire48 said:
    Quick question. If you guys broke it in a day, just how long is it going to take for you to fix it?

    It took a year or more to break it, lol.

    If you think the game - which often has had persistent bugs for weeks or months or longer under the old engine - has the staff to quickly fix the giant mess that exists while continuing to run the game......let's just think about that a little bit.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,325 Chairperson of the Boards

    I wonder if this is because you have to agree to the terms & conditions for the Unity update? Surely though at some point there will be no "old server" left and these players will not be able to have their live data pointed anywhere else but Unity. I'm no expert so possibly that is completely wrong in which case the Devs will be maintaining a server to a version of a game solely for people who are exploiting them! Ha ha, sounds about right!

  • trenchdigger
    trenchdigger Posts: 232 Tile Toppler

    I don’t have auto update on, and I woke to the new version, so not sure how/why that happened?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,325 Chairperson of the Boards

    @trenchdigger said:
    I don’t have auto update on, and I woke to the new version, so not sure how/why that happened?

    Protocol 10.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,655 Chairperson of the Boards

    If we aren't all auto-updating to the latest then how many players do you think are still playing with an older version that if they updated might fix some of their issues (can't play at all, lag etc)?

    It's a bit disconcerting to think things aren't auto-updating.

    KGB

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 454 Mover and Shaker

    As far as I understand, there are currently three groups:

    • players on the old engine. They have not manually updated to Unity and are not forced to do so. They don’t have the lag, heating, and bugs obviously. And they can get daily tokens for the vaults. But it’s not clear if at one point things start breaking down for them. Interestingly, Avalon’s yellow works as intended for this group…

    • players on Unity and fully updated. They have either manually or auto-updated the latest hotfix. This group has a working roster filter. They do not get daily vault tokens anymore. Avalon’s yellow doesn’t swap health.

    • players on Unity that did not update the hotfix. I believe, but am not sure, this third group exists. Or at least it did on Monday. They did not receive the Data Push that is the topic of this thread. And they did not update to the latest patch. This group still has the bugged roster filter, and can still get daily tokens (that’s what is frustrating me). Avalon’s yellow is broken.

    So my question was about group three. If it still exists (I think so), why did they not get the Data Push to turn off daily tokens (this thread’s topic)? Are data pushes no longer working? Again, I might be wrong about this, but Discord made me believe group three exists.

    But there is also is broader separate question about forcing updates to switch to Unity and to switch to the latest patch. That clearly isn’t working as intended.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,325 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Zarqa said:
    As far as I understand, there are currently three groups:

    • players on the old engine. They have not manually updated to Unity and are not forced to do so. They don’t have the lag, heating, and bugs obviously. And they can get daily tokens for the vaults. But it’s not clear if at one point things start breaking down for them. Interestingly, Avalon’s yellow works as intended for this group…

    • players on Unity and fully updated. They have either manually or auto-updated the latest hotfix. This group has a working roster filter. They do not get daily vault tokens anymore. Avalon’s yellow doesn’t swap health.

    • players on Unity that did not update the hotfix. I believe, but am not sure, this third group exists. Or at least it did on Monday. They did not receive the Data Push that is the topic of this thread. And they did not update to the latest patch. This group still has the bugged roster filter, and can still get daily tokens (that’s what is frustrating me). Avalon’s yellow is broken.

    So my question was about group three. If it still exists (I think so), why did they not get the Data Push to turn off daily tokens (this thread’s topic)? Are data pushes no longer working? Again, I might be wrong about this, but Discord made me believe group three exists.

    But there is also is broader separate question about forcing updates to switch to Unity and to switch to the latest patch. That clearly isn’t working as intended.

    Reading between the lines are you maybe suggesting there has been a way to avoid the update? If so then how could that be?

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 111 Tile Toppler
    edited 15 July 2025, 16:51

    Any idea when we will next get an update? I was hoping for a dev post today but can't see anything yet.

    I think most people on here need to give the Devs a break and relax a bit. Despite what I've literally just said, they are providing regular updates and have made it clear to us for months that their aim with the unity engine is to make the game better in the long run and implement much-needed QoL improvements.

    I'm just looking at this as early teething problems but having played the game since release all those years ago, and despite my own list of grievances about the game, I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and more importantly, time to fix it for us. It's a shame so many of you don't seem willing to do the same really.

    What's a few missed tokens or a bit of lag or even, at worst, it being unplayable for a few days
    Chill and give them some time..... hopefully it will be worth it and if it isn't, nobody is forcing you to play.

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 454 Mover and Shaker

    @Bustapup said:
    Any idea when we will next get an update? I was hoping for a dev post today but can't see anything yet.

    I think most people on here need to give the Devs a break and relax a bit. Despite what I've literally just said, they are providing regular updates and have made it clear to us for months that their aim with the unity engine is to make the game better in the long run and implement much-needed QoL improvements.

    I'm just looking at this as early teething problems but having played the game since release all those years ago, and despite my own list of grievances about the game, I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and more importantly, time to fix it for us. It's a shame so many of you don't seem willing to do the same really.

    What's a few missed tokens or a bit of lag or even, at worst, it being unplayable for a few days
    Chill and give them some time..... hopefully it will be with it and if it isn't, nobody is forcing you to play.

    Let’s agree to disagree and leave it at that.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,325 Chairperson of the Boards

    Devs are on Pacific Time - I don't think the work day has even begun for them?