New Character - Moonstone (Meteorite) 4*

@MCPenance said:
How is everyone running her abilities?

3/5/5, 5/4/4 or?

I don't have her champed yet...

@Blackstone said:

@MCPenance said:
How is everyone running her abilities?

3/5/5, 5/4/4 or?

I can't imagine any reason to do anything other than 535. No reason to use her people (beyond completing the event) but off you do use it, you don't want to stun your own ally more than necessary. You only need one yellow cover, but the damage increase goes up so no reason not to have it at 5 since it's the primary ability. And red gets 5 because those extra covers need to go somewhere.

Just my opinion.

That's exactly what I did too

Thanks all, for the replies. I'm almost ready to champ her, and was curious how you all have her set up.

I haven't used her red much, as I've been pairing her with 5* Namor and MThor who have better uses for red AP than hers, currently. I'll throw out her purple just for laughs when the match is already in my favour.

Has anyone tested her with 5* Black Panther yet? Just for stun fun antics?

@MCPenance said:
Thanks all, for the replies. I'm almost ready to champ her, and was curious how you all have her set up.

I haven't used her red much, as I've been pairing her with 5* Namor and MThor who have better uses for red AP than hers, currently. I'll throw out her purple just for laughs when the match is already in my favour.

Has anyone tested her with 5* Black Panther yet? Just for stun fun antics?

Definitely a fun concept, but yeah, even I didn't dare touch him. Coincidentally, if they do buff him, it's also like buffing 5 character specific supports too! Win win win win

@MCPenance said:
How is everyone running her abilities?

3/5/5, 5/4/4 or?

I haven't champed her yet but I'm thinking 3/5/5. Honestly, you only want yellow to keep casting it and rolling the winfinites and/or setting things up. Her red seems to do pathetic damage, and you probably won't/shouldn't use it but more damage on that is gonna be better than less. Same logic goes for her purple.

I'm just loving to use her with Taskmaster right now. He seems a very good partner for her, if not the best there is.

I've been using Sniper Rifle for his black (maxed out), Oldest Trick in the Book for his red and Daredevil's stun for his blue. The point of Sniper Rifle is for AOE damage and clearing the board out of bad board situations (not favorable black tiles placing, Cart countdowns or other special tiles clogging it up, etc). Oldest Trick in the Book takes advantage of the Cart countdowns piling up, Daredevil's blue gives a decent stun and adds up another countdown to the board when needed.

In fact, Taskmaster has never been this fun to use before! Oh and he is a Thunderbolts member too, so that kinda helps as well

@WhiteBomber said:

@Daniel2121 said:

@WhiteBomber said:
Seriously asking:
What other characters/duo can 100% start the match with an infinite without AP boosts? As far as I know, the other safest turn 1 infinite is Agatha5 with Blue Mutants (blutants if you will), but even she has a chance of not triggering on turn 1. You could try using starting AP supports, but the only one that's guaranteed to start w/ is Krakoa (which Moon and Agatha need for theirs).

For 4* Moonstone, you don't always start with 6 yellow AP though. You also need Korg to trigger.

And here I got Korg but Krakoa failed me for some reason.

Edit: alright, nevermind. My Korg is not at level 4 yet, so Xavier's strongest color is still blue instead of yellow, so Krakoa gave me 2 blue AP instead of 2 yellow AP.

Consider swapping out both Professor and Kamala.

Khan only provides value in 1 color that doesn't require more turns to pass (green), and with Moonstone, there is only 1 turn, so Khans value is very minimal. Both Emma3 and Darkveil4 provide more value while still guaranteeing you win on the first turn with Krakoa.

Professor will always run the risk of taking some of your starting yellow, on top of not being good for damage (if for fun, that's coo though). Namor3 is surely her current best 3rd, but only if at least 1 person is 5star.

Basically anyone with a good black or yellow makes a good partner, but here are some of the more fun and effective teams I've tried:

Known BFF's:

• Darkveil4
• Emma3
• Electro5
• Namor3/5

Eat or Shred Some Fatties:

• Goose5
• GhostRider2099

Generally good:

• Wintersoldier5
• Juggernaut1
• Yelena1
• Kang5

Puzzle Fun:

• DocOk4
• Cyclops (any)
• ShangChi5
• Coulson ascended w/ Car (can keep reducing his own countdowns on same turn match)
• Onslaught5
• Storm5

Allow me to clear the air on the decision of 5Kamala and 4Prof in this team... its not that tricky, honestly, but the numbers matter.

(also, sorry for the delay... silly other interests/responsibilities! lol)

4Prof makes +4 AP in your strongest color with a match 5, not to mention that passive nuke. And obviously, we want yellow as our strongest, so that this just rinse/repeats itself. Also, free AP is a good thing, and Krakoa is nice for that. BUT, we would need to put that on a mutant, and Chuck is already a mutant, but blue is his strongest. SOOOOO...

I put Korg on Chuck to make yellow his strongest. Plus the extra chance at starting yellow AP isnt bad either.

Then, I needed to pick out a mutant that has YELLOW as its strongest, but doesn't match so many of Chuck's affiliations (since that's what determines how many AP you get from the start). That basically means I can't pick an "X-Men" affiliated character... tried it with a few, always to end up shorter than what I wanted. Enter Kamala.

Kamala really only matches Chuck on a couple affiliations... and there's plenty of others between them that are unique. So, since her strongest is yellow, and Chuck's strongest is yellow... that's a good chunk of guaranteed yellow to start with, not to mention the chance of Korg firing off, and any AP boosts.

Kamala ALSO brings in the option of actually putting all those ProfX SAP tiles to use by matching/destroying them away for more damage. So, the match 5s give +4 Yellow, as well as the passive nuke from Prof, and if you're smart about your placement, you can totally destroy/cascade plenty of specials, triggering Kamala's passive over and over as well.

.......

phew. I hope I cleared the air here. Kamala was NOT chosen for any passive AP generation. The enemy doesn't need to take an action, and the main purpose is just being a non-xmen-mutant with yellow as the strongest... the passive SAP tile destruction damage passive is just gravy.

...but reading through everything to this point so far, I see a few other things I might wanna play with.

Oh -- and regarding character balance? Man, that was thrown out the window SO long ago. Now, I let my play do the talking. We all know the devs (for ANY online game) see the stats of who gets used, and how much, and this/that/etc... so, after being irritated about balance for a bit, I came to the conclusion in my own head that if I want something to change, then its up to ME to use it (or not use it, if its horrible) as well. Add to the stats. Make it painfully obvious that this thing here is busted by adding your voice to the chorus -- the more that chosen thing shows up, the more the devs know its being used, and eventually they'll investigate and see why. From there, its up to them to decide if that's "as intended" or if its too "OP". Just my lazy 2 cents on it.

@Daniel2121 said:

@Blackstone said:

@MCPenance said:
How is everyone running her abilities?

3/5/5, 5/4/4 or?

I can't imagine any reason to do anything other than 535. No reason to use her purple (beyond completing the event) but if you do use it, you don't want to stun your own ally more than necessary. You only need one yellow cover, but the damage increase goes up so no reason not to have it at 5 since it's the primary ability. And red gets 5 because those extra covers need to go somewhere.

Just my opinion.

*Edited to correct auto-correct.

You know... I thought there was a point in going 3/5/5 but there isn't actually any. But there IS a point in going 5/5/3 if you're using stun-immune allies for her.

So I now think 5/5/3 is her best build, or at least a situationally valid option. Yeah... use stun immune guys, they won't be eating stuns from her purple. And the benefits from Blinding Flash going from level 4 to 5 do go up A LOT.

Unfortunately though there are no Thunderbolts members immune to stuns yet.

You don't even understand how her powers work (evidenced by your multiple posts that outright make claims that are objectively wrong) so i don't see any need to take your suggestions seriously.

Feel free to troll someone else.

@Blackstone said:

@Daniel2121 said:

@Blackstone said:

@MCPenance said:
How is everyone running her abilities?

3/5/5, 5/4/4 or?

I can't imagine any reason to do anything other than 535. No reason to use her purple (beyond completing the event) but if you do use it, you don't want to stun your own ally more than necessary. You only need one yellow cover, but the damage increase goes up so no reason not to have it at 5 since it's the primary ability. And red gets 5 because those extra covers need to go somewhere.

Just my opinion.

*Edited to correct auto-correct.

You know... I thought there was a point in going 3/5/5 but there isn't actually any. But there IS a point in going 5/5/3 if you're using stun-immune allies for her.

So I now think 5/5/3 is her best build, or at least a situationally valid option. Yeah... use stun immune guys, they won't be eating stuns from her purple. And the benefits from Blinding Flash going from level 4 to 5 do go up A LOT.

Unfortunately though there are no Thunderbolts members immune to stuns yet.

You don't even understand how her powers work (evidenced by your multiple posts that outright make claims that are objectively wrong) so i don't see any need to take your suggestions seriously.

Feel free to troll someone else.

Why so hostile, dude? Did you not find your box of chill pills? Did your cat piss on your tea cup today? Not my fault. And hey, don't have to take my suggestion if you don't want to.
But please go take that verbal hostility of yours where it fits you best. Sure you got a nerve to call me out about trolling when you're currently the one trying to instigate a forum fight just because someone gave you a suggestion you didn't like.

Chill.

@PiMacleod said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@Daniel2121 said:

@WhiteBomber said:
Seriously asking:
What other characters/duo can 100% start the match with an infinite without AP boosts? As far as I know, the other safest turn 1 infinite is Agatha5 with Blue Mutants (blutants if you will), but even she has a chance of not triggering on turn 1. You could try using starting AP supports, but the only one that's guaranteed to start w/ is Krakoa (which Moon and Agatha need for theirs).

For 4* Moonstone, you don't always start with 6 yellow AP though. You also need Korg to trigger.

And here I got Korg but Krakoa failed me for some reason.

Edit: alright, nevermind. My Korg is not at level 4 yet, so Xavier's strongest color is still blue instead of yellow, so Krakoa gave me 2 blue AP instead of 2 yellow AP.

Consider swapping out both Professor and Kamala.

Khan only provides value in 1 color that doesn't require more turns to pass (green), and with Moonstone, there is only 1 turn, so Khans value is very minimal. Both Emma3 and Darkveil4 provide more value while still guaranteeing you win on the first turn with Krakoa.

Professor will always run the risk of taking some of your starting yellow, on top of not being good for damage (if for fun, that's coo though). Namor3 is surely her current best 3rd, but only if at least 1 person is 5star.

Basically anyone with a good black or yellow makes a good partner, but here are some of the more fun and effective teams I've tried:

Known BFF's:

• Darkveil4
• Emma3
• Electro5
• Namor3/5

Eat or Shred Some Fatties:

• Goose5
• GhostRider2099

Generally good:

• Wintersoldier5
• Juggernaut1
• Yelena1
• Kang5

Puzzle Fun:

• DocOk4
• Cyclops (any)
• ShangChi5
• Coulson ascended w/ Car (can keep reducing his own countdowns on same turn match)
• Onslaught5
• Storm5

Allow me to clear the air on the decision of 5Kamala and 4Prof in this team... its not that tricky, honestly, but the numbers matter.

(also, sorry for the delay... silly other interests/responsibilities! lol)

4Prof makes +4 AP in your strongest color with a match 5, not to mention that passive nuke. And obviously, we want yellow as our strongest, so that this just rinse/repeats itself. Also, free AP is a good thing, and Krakoa is nice for that. BUT, we would need to put that on a mutant, and Chuck is already a mutant, but blue is his strongest. SOOOOO...

I put Korg on Chuck to make yellow his strongest. Plus the extra chance at starting yellow AP isnt bad either.

Then, I needed to pick out a mutant that has YELLOW as its strongest, but doesn't match so many of Chuck's affiliations (since that's what determines how many AP you get from the start). That basically means I can't pick an "X-Men" affiliated character... tried it with a few, always to end up shorter than what I wanted. Enter Kamala.

Kamala really only matches Chuck on a couple affiliations... and there's plenty of others between them that are unique. So, since her strongest is yellow, and Chuck's strongest is yellow... that's a good chunk of guaranteed yellow to start with, not to mention the chance of Korg firing off, and any AP boosts.

Kamala ALSO brings in the option of actually putting all those ProfX SAP tiles to use by matching/destroying them away for more damage. So, the match 5s give +4 Yellow, as well as the passive nuke from Prof, and if you're smart about your placement, you can totally destroy/cascade plenty of specials, triggering Kamala's passive over and over as well.

.......

phew. I hope I cleared the air here. Kamala was NOT chosen for any passive AP generation. The enemy doesn't need to take an action, and the main purpose is just being a non-xmen-mutant with yellow as the strongest... the passive SAP tile destruction damage passive is just gravy.

...but reading through everything to this point so far, I see a few other things I might wanna play with.

Oh -- and regarding character balance? Man, that was thrown out the window SO long ago. Now, I let my play do the talking. We all know the devs (for ANY online game) see the stats of who gets used, and how much, and this/that/etc... so, after being irritated about balance for a bit, I came to the conclusion in my own head that if I want something to change, then its up to ME to use it (or not use it, if its horrible) as well. Add to the stats. Make it painfully obvious that this thing here is busted by adding your voice to the chorus -- the more that chosen thing shows up, the more the devs know its being used, and eventually they'll investigate and see why. From there, its up to them to decide if that's "as intended" or if its too "OP". Just my lazy 2 cents on it.

Funny, I didn't notice my Korg support was at 3 stars only, not 4. I swapped Korg on Xavier with Star-Lord's guns (Elemental Blasters or whatever its name is), that improves yellow match damage as well. Though I need to boost yellow AP before the battle starts in order to start out with 5 yellow AP, but hey, it gets the winfinite working from the first turn