New Character - Daredevil (King of the Fist) 4*

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  • JSP869
    JSP869 Posts: 831 Critical Contributor

    @S0kun said:

    @JSP869 said:

    @S0kun said:

    @Kross said:
    Did we confirm the damage reduction is for his entire team? I read it as only if it is HIS match.

    It's only to Daredevil's matches.

    That may have been the intention, but he's in the game now, and that is currently not the case.
    He also reduces his allies' match damage.

    Apologies for the mixup. I was originally told that the reduction AND ability proc was to DD only, but the live version is working as intended since the text uses "you" and not specifically calling out DD.

    That was how I read it as well, that the "you" referred to the Player, and not to King Daredevil specifically. I appreciate the confirmation, and your "service" to our community.

    Thank you!

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 591 Critical Contributor

    I think they put the wrong cover for the working as intended version:

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 4,069 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 March 2025, 17:16

    Canonically it actually makes sense. During that arc, DD was a big pacifist. He was healing/rehabilitating baddies and teaching them a better path forward instead of I beat you up, you beat me up ad infinitum. He felt there had to be a better way to end the cycle. He had his own little sanctuary where people could work the land, have their base needs cared for and not have to resort to trying to kill one another. He even brought in Doc Samson to provide therapy to the criminals and helped them see a new path.

    That said it makes for a horrible game mechanic and makes my favorite character pretty much unusable. So I’m desperately hoping that what S0kun said was correct and they’ll patch him accordingly so he’s playable in game.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,433 Chairperson of the Boards

    Welp, back to the "totally unusable in any situation" pile!

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,589 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    Welp, back to the "totally unusable in any situation" pile!

    Yeah, I am just not getting this character. Does not seem usable at all. Once again, and I know I am beating a dead horse here (does PETA let us say that?). The devs don't play this game the way that we do and therefore the characters they come up with don't work as intended. Either too OP or not workable at all.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,589 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @LavaManLee said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    Welp, back to the "totally unusable in any situation" pile!

    Yeah, I am just not getting this character. Does not seem usable at all. Once again, and I know I am beating a dead horse here (does PETA let us say that?). The devs don't play this game the way that we do and therefore the characters they come up with don't work as intended. Either too OP or not workable at all.

    He's just not meant for 5 star gaming. He's perfectly fine in 4 star and below gaming where giving up 50-60 match damage for a 730 damage trap is a reasonable tradeoff as @rainkingucd noted above.

    KGB

    Got it. Makes sense, I guess. Not directed at you at all. I just don't know why one creates a 4* that can't stay in the game when raised to 5. But definitely appreciate your input!

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,508 Chairperson of the Boards

    New doop code OPTICS for a free cover of this must have meta new character

  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 128 Tile Toppler
    edited 20 March 2025, 20:56

    @BriMan2222 said:
    New doop code OPTICS for a free cover of this must have meta new character

    It's been so long I can't find where to enter these codes any more...

    Edit: https://marvelpuzzlequest.com/code/

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,495 Chairperson of the Boards

    @stef_focus said:

    @BriMan2222 said:
    New doop code OPTICS for a free cover of this must have meta new character

    It's been so long I can't find where to enter these codes any more...

    Edit: https://marvelpuzzlequest.com/code/

    http://marvelpuzzlequest.com/code/

    KGB

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,884 Chairperson of the Boards

    Apparently, they took DD's budget and gave it to Sidewinder.

  • Waddles_Pines
    Waddles_Pines Posts: 1,255 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 March 2025, 21:58

    Stupid question, but if an ability raises match damage, does match damage get both nerfed and buffed?

    Or does ability buff only apply to non-passives?

  • JSP869
    JSP869 Posts: 831 Critical Contributor
    edited 20 March 2025, 23:34

    @Waddles_Pines said:
    Stupid question, but if an ability raises match damage, does match damage get both nerfed and buffed?

    Or does ability buff only apply to non-passives?

    It depends.®

    Okoye's Wakanda Forever boosts Polaris's passive damage from Special Tiles, but it doesn't boost Juggs' Collateral damage, which is also a passive ability.

    Re: your first question, it should be both (Insert your favorite /both gif here) so as an example M'Baku's self-buff of +300% ('+' depending on how much health he's missing) should increase his match damage, and if he's partnered with Iron May or Sidewinder they should also boost his match damage, and King DD would then reduce it.

    Or vice versa, but it doesn't matter, or at least it shouldn't matter if the calculations are being performed correctly.

    1,000 x 0.75 x 300 is the same as 1,000 x 300 x 0.75

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,036 Chairperson of the Boards

    His red is interesting to me. You can target any of the enemies with the first hit and then the traps trigger and hit the person in front, so you could use it to take out a low health enemy and then hit the front person.

    I know. Low dmg. But the precision is interesting.

  • Rejoinder
    Rejoinder Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    edited 21 March 2025, 00:08

    In Daredevil's defence, I see why he has match damage reduction. He's designed as a defensive character, where the majority of the damage isn't about active match damage but more passive counter-attacks through traps. It's a mechanical restriction that forces you to make a more interesting defensive-focused team.

    He works well mechnically with Elektra. 5lektra doesn't really care that much about match damage - her yellow traps and red countdowns cause more than enough damage to cover the reduced damage from matches.

    I actually like the defensive mechanics and want to build around them. The main flaw with them is that the meta teams also don't care about making matches, so maybe these guys won't last long enough for their traps to do anything.

    Still, I'm really keen to try Daredevil 4 with Elektra 5 and Annihilus.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 591 Critical Contributor
    edited 21 March 2025, 18:08

    Alright alright, if we're being positive about it: His red also triggers when you throw abilities with someone else, not just him. SO! Agatha infinite ability spam pop off with him. Only one downside, him popping off is like a tickle fight that went just a little too far... or... being, punched my Mother Theresa??

  • Rejoinder
    Rejoinder Posts: 28 Just Dropped In
    edited 21 March 2025, 04:27

    So I just tested Elektra5/Annihilus (champed)/Bearddevil (half-covered) against some mild Simulator teams - e.g. mThor, Shang Chi and Agatha or Ironheart.

    It's fun, and I'm winning...ish. It'll be a lot better once DD is champed. His other passive are actually quite good - I totally overlooked them in the red passive hysteria.

    He won't be top tier, but he's interesting and I'll enjoy building around him. Now I just need, like, 72 more Annihilus covers to champ him, then I'll focus on champing DD...

  • Scorpion201
    Scorpion201 Posts: 72 Match Maker

    Whats the verdict on him good or bad and what build should he be? Thanks

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 665 Critical Contributor

    I thought passive damage might help with reducing match damage. It works until red gets allergic to being matched.

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