Daredevil (King of the Fist) 4*

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  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 593 Critical Contributor

    I can definitely see some fun with both his yellow and pink passives, but I also wonder what is going on with that red. Make that red passive reduce enemy match damage and oh boy are we talkin!

    It also make me wish Elektra was better. They will both however get steamrolled in the current climate. If his passive gave him yellow for free AND his red reduced the match damage of enemies instead, him with Elektra 5 would still get flattened by Sssssnakeman. Some fun ideas though.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor

    @WhiteBomber said:
    I can definitely see some fun with both his yellow and pink passives, but I also wonder what is going on with that red. Make that red passive reduce enemy match damage and oh boy are we talkin!

    It also make me wish Elektra was better. They will both however get steamrolled in the current climate. If his passive gave him yellow for free AND his red reduced the match damage of enemies instead, him with Elektra 5 would still get flattened by Sssssnakeman. Some fun ideas though.

    I was thinking the same thing, and reducing enemy match damage would be a fitting passive for Matt with his heightened senses.

    Missed opportunity to provide a direct counter to a current meta.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,052 Chairperson of the Boards

    Every other player: what’s up with this red match dmg reduction, lame

    Me: did you see how the guy with radar sense can just hit invisible enemies for 5 AP? Awesome!

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 668 Critical Contributor

    @bluewolf said:
    Every other player: what’s up with this red match dmg reduction, lame

    Me: did you see how the guy with radar sense can just hit invisible enemies for 5 AP? Awesome!

    That's valid.

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,227 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 March 2025, 07:13

    Devs designing DD's Red power: "Let's give him an ability to bypass Protects and Leapfrog!"

    Also devs: "But that exceeds the budget, so we'll compensate by reducing all friendly match damage. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be."

    Still the devs designing Iron May and Sidewinder: "Teammate buffs go brrrrr"

  • Kross
    Kross Posts: 149 Tile Toppler

    Did we confirm the damage reduction is for his entire team? I read it as only if it is HIS match.

  • BlackBoltRocks
    BlackBoltRocks Posts: 1,227 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 March 2025, 07:13

    The text says "Whenever you make a match". If it were just Daredevil the text would presumably say "Whenever Daredevil makes a match".

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,052 Chairperson of the Boards

    @BlackBoltRocks said:
    Devs designing DD's Red power: "Let's give him an ability to bypass Protects and Leapfrog!"

    Also devs: "But that exceeds the budget, so we'll compensate by reducing all friendly match damage. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be."

    Still the devs designing Iron May and Sidewinder: "Teammate buffs go brrrrr"

    Completely valid.

    But I’m still super geeked they finally did what I’ve been yelling at the game about for years: make Daredevil, with a darned radar sense, able to hit invisible people who are bending light - which he does not and cannot perceive or rely on to navigate the world - around them to be invisible and hence would not be invisible to him at all.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,767 Chairperson of the Boards

    It seems incredibly strange that Bearddevil with his giant metal spike knuckledusters does LESS damage when punching you. I mean, what are they there for then?!?!? Does he use them as a beard comb?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,052 Chairperson of the Boards

    Beard-king of the fist comb.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,743 Chairperson of the Boards

    A guy that buffs things on the board. Awesome.

    How long do you keep things on the board?

    I win on the first match.

    Bro could have been good.

    He is useless today

  • icarusmonkey
    icarusmonkey Posts: 32 Just Dropped In

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    I also like the red has no in game explanation as to why daredevil would do this.
    OK yes I am playing a game where beast smashes his lab which causes all sort of logic problems
    Whys he in his lab?
    Whys he smashing it up?
    How does that damage the other team?
    I probably have too much time on my hands.

    I for one really like the flavor text that's added to ability descriptions (when it fits), and I'm sad it's been neglected a lot lately for new and reworked characters.

  • icarusmonkey
    icarusmonkey Posts: 32 Just Dropped In

    @DAZ0273 said:

    Daredevil punches you with all his might splintering his own wrist and causing hardly any damage! But...he has set a trap - whilst you are mocking him there is a chance he might be able to kick you in the balls!

    :D Thank you. I will envision that every time I read his ability.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 593 Critical Contributor
    edited 18 March 2025, 17:19

    @BlackBoltRocks said:
    Devs designing DD's Red power: "Let's give him an ability to bypass Protects and Leapfrog!"

    Also devs: "But that exceeds the budget, so we'll compensate by reducing all friendly match damage. Perfectly balanced, as all things should be."

    Still the devs designing Iron May and Sidewinder: "Teammate buffs go brrrrr"

    Is 5-15k damage (assuming you have him maxed) reeeally bypassing anything? I suppose it's bypassing your own win, or time invested, due to reducing the real damage.

    • Assuming you match red twice right away: That 25% off of those 2 matches is ROUGHLY 999,000,000 (not counting Jugs team damage, which does hit Frog).
    • Now is your chance though! 5k plus 3k in traps = 8k damage from surely a minimum 100k health enemy. Repeat this 12 more times and you might down someone.
    • Meanwhile, Omega Red (or Jugs) is doing that damage to all 3 enemies (multiplied each turn), without stealing your match damage or requiring any AP at all.
    • Sure sure, he's a 4 star, I get it, so we'll give the benefit of the doubt and double the damage on his red for ascension... 10-30k damage. Now his passives are also drastically reduced. Winder is a 4star.

    I am still excited to use the heal (since I am a sucker for heals) but I am sorry for your loss @Daredevil217.

    Update: Great, now S0kun invalidated most of my scenario... I think they are changing it just to make me look bad. WORTH IT.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 593 Critical Contributor

    @S0kun said:

    @Kross said:
    Did we confirm the damage reduction is for his entire team? I read it as only if it is HIS match.

    It's only to Daredevil's matches.

    Only Daredevils... AND the enemies next match!?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,451 Chairperson of the Boards

    @S0kun said:

    @Kross said:
    Did we confirm the damage reduction is for his entire team? I read it as only if it is HIS match.

    It's only to Daredevil's matches.

    That changes things quite a bit! I'm not sure if he's any good, but it moves him up from the "totally unusable in any situation" tier.

  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,521 Chairperson of the Boards

    I guess that makes him a good partner for any one who wants to tank. Even if they over lap on colors the other character will surely end up tanking.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,891 Chairperson of the Boards

    @S0kun said:

    @Kross said:
    Did we confirm the damage reduction is for his entire team? I read it as only if it is HIS match.

    It's only to Daredevil's matches.

    Totally changes everything. Good to know.

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