How long does MPQ have left?

Timemachinego

EB shuts down more actual talk, news at 10.

DAZ0273

Oh damnit, now I have to move along the MPQ doom ticker...

MegaBee

@DAZ0273 said:
Oh damnit, now I have to move along the MPQ doom ticker...

Reset the clock!

BriMan2222

Hmm, I've been playing mpq since almost day 1 and the entire 11 years I've been playing I've been hearing that [insert most recent thing that has upset the fanbase] would be the death of the game, and so far none it has been.

So I guess I would say the game will die anytime between the end of the month and the next 87 years

entrailbucket

@Timemachinego said:

@BriMan2222 said:
Hmm, I've been playing mpq since almost day 1 and the entire 11 years I've been playing I've been hearing that [insert most recent thing that has upset the fanbase] would be the death of the game, and so far none it has been.

So I guess I would say the game will die anytime between the end of the month and the next 87 years

...and also know that monthly earnings have gone down by more than half over the last 6 months.

Do you have a source for this? Rather, can you cite the source for this?

meadowsweet

How long does this game have left for me personally? Negative many months ago.

Players can burn out and quit any time they like. I'm just curious whether there are any new players still getting hooked. How could you possibly not feel overwhelmed, outgunned, and begged for money every few seconds? Why would you allow yourself to get sucked into a game where you need to purchase hundreds of roster spots just to be able to start opening tokens, and every other player already has a roster that you don't feel like you could ever catch up and compete with?

entrailbucket

@meadowsweet said:
How long does this game have left for me personally? Negative many months ago.

Players can burn out and quit any time they like. I'm just curious whether there are any new players still getting hooked. How could you possibly not feel overwhelmed, outgunned, and begged for money every few seconds? Why would you allow yourself to get sucked into a game where you need to purchase hundreds of roster spots just to be able to start opening tokens, and every other player already has a roster that you don't feel like you could ever catch up and compete with?

... because it's a silly toilet game, and match-3 plus superheroes is fun? Why would anyone pick up a new phone game and expect to become one of the top few players in the world immediately?

KGB

@meadowsweet said:
How long does this game have left for me personally? Negative many months ago.

Players can burn out and quit any time they like. I'm just curious whether there are any new players still getting hooked. How could you possibly not feel overwhelmed, outgunned, and begged for money every few seconds? Why would you allow yourself to get sucked into a game where you need to purchase hundreds of roster spots just to be able to start opening tokens, and every other player already has a roster that you don't feel like you could ever catch up and compete with?

New players (unless they know a current player) are entirely shielded from everything you say minus the roster slot crunch. If they are just casually getting into the game (20 minutes here and there) they can easily play in the prologue for a few weeks repeating nodes and earning all rewards and following the story line (interesting the 1st time through for new players).

Then if they are hooked after the prologue and enter some PvE or PvPs they aren't competing with the likes of us. They are in CL1-3 with other new players where they will have legit chances to finish T5 all while growing their roster especially now with cover swaps making it so that if they do open tokens they can at least use them via swaps instead of throwing away what they can't roster.

They literally have no idea the world we play in even exists.

KGB

entrailbucket

@Timemachinego said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:

@BriMan2222 said:
Hmm, I've been playing mpq since almost day 1 and the entire 11 years I've been playing I've been hearing that [insert most recent thing that has upset the fanbase] would be the death of the game, and so far none it has been.

So I guess I would say the game will die anytime between the end of the month and the next 87 years

...and also know that monthly earnings have gone down by more than half over the last 6 months.

Do you have a source for this? Rather, can you cite the source for this?

There's no straight inside knowledge afaik, different people have different resources.

Personally, and they all estimate, but they're correct enough to be what is used for speculation by outside investors: Sensortower, Mobileaction, Data.ai, Appmagic, etc. If you've got access to more of these you can aggregate a meta-analysis to be even more sure, but for average trends you only need one or two.

Great, can you link to any of that or post the actual numbers?

entrailbucket

@Timemachinego said:

@entrailbucket said:
Great, can you link to any of that or post the actual numbers?

Not really? I can't link you to my own secure accounts and posting screenshots would expose me to legal trouble. You asked and I delivered, stop moving the target.

So your source is "trust me, bro." I'll pass.

dianetics

If they don't do anything about the mega-boost characters...then not a long time.
I'm not on line and not connected, but I imagine a lot of people would not be happy with these new boosters.
If old players aren't happy, then what about new players.
It still takes way to long to get a fresh account towards the end game. When they get there, then they get deleted in PvP. They don't understand why and get frustrated and quit.

I think the dev's have taken their eye off the ball with trying to get the "new engine" out.

In all honesty they need to do something about the mega boosters after the new engine AND bring new and engaging content.
Otherwise they are cooked in the grave they dug themselves.

Timemachinego

@Scofie Best to just close this thread, it was well intentioned but I can't with EB right now. I'd rather have to go back and try to have a conversation with Hounds at this point.

dianetics

@Timemachinego said:
@Scofie Best to just close this thread, it was well intentioned but I can't with EB right now.

You don't have to respond to him...

Timemachinego

@dianetics said:

@Timemachinego said:
@Scofie Best to just close this thread, it was well intentioned but I can't with EB right now.

You don't have to respond to him...

Noted for the future, sorry.

entrailbucket

If you make a very specific claim like "MPQ revenues are down by more than half over the last 6 months," and that's the entire premise of your argument, I think it's reasonable to ask for some proof of that claim.

Just saying "well I have insider information that I'm not allowed to share, trust me" is not proof.

Timemachinego

@entrailbucket said:
If you make a very specific claim like "MPQ revenues are down by more than half over the last 6 months," and that's the entire premise of your argument, I think it's reasonable to ask for some proof of that claim.

Just saying "well I have insider information that I'm not allowed to share, trust me" is not proof.

You're complaining about sourcing when it's common knowledge for anyone that can be bothered to do the research. Just leave it alone and let it die, man. I can't educate you because you refuse to be educated.

fractalvisions

@Timemachinego said:

@entrailbucket said:
If you make a very specific claim like "MPQ revenues are down by more than half over the last 6 months," and that's the entire premise of your argument, I think it's reasonable to ask for some proof of that claim.

Just saying "well I have insider information that I'm not allowed to share, trust me" is not proof.

You're complaining about sourcing when it's common knowledge for anyone that can be bothered to do the research. Just leave it alone and let it die, man. I can't educate you because you refuse to be educated.

I'm with EB on this one. He's absolutely right to be complaining about sourcing. If you've gone to the effort to do this research then why not share your results? You can't claim that someone is refusing to be educated when you're making no attempt to educate us. You're just making claims and expecting us to accept them without providing any evidence.

Borstock

@Timemachinego said:

@entrailbucket said:
If you make a very specific claim like "MPQ revenues are down by more than half over the last 6 months," and that's the entire premise of your argument, I think it's reasonable to ask for some proof of that claim.

Just saying "well I have insider information that I'm not allowed to share, trust me" is not proof.

You're complaining about sourcing when it's common knowledge for anyone that can be bothered to do the research. Just leave it alone and let it die, man. I can't educate you because you refuse to be educated.

Been here a while. It's not common knowledge to me.

trenchdigger

@Timemachinego It's a shame you can't share any specific numbers. I had a quick look at some of the sites you mentioned out of interest, and although I could see app rankings, it seems you have to pay for premium content if you want to get a graph of revenue over time on Appmagic for instance.

I hate to gang up on you because it does sound like you might have some data to back up what you are saying, but we now live in an age where there is so much misinformation, false claims and in many instances down right lies, from the very top downwards, that fact checking and asking for proof should be applauded, rather than vilified, so I am also supportive of EB's line of questioning.

entrailbucket

That escalated so quickly and so far that I imagine it's more about the person asking and less about the sourcing itself. And that's ok!

I'm not trying to shut down discussion. If revenues are down significantly then there's certainly an interesting conversation to be had there, but I think the specifics of when/how much/how long etc are important too, and that would all be included in a source.

DAZ0273

I was looking into the revenues of MPQ and a lot seems to point to a lack of this as being a significant problem:

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Peter_Petruski_(Earth-616)

It seems fixable to me.