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Maybe it's time to offer up the Stones elsewhere and find a new shiny for the big boys to chase.
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@DAZ0273 said:
Maybe it's time to offer up the Stones elsewhere and find a new shiny for the big boys to chase.They have. We just keep coming up short.
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@Daredevil217 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
Maybe it's time to offer up the Stones elsewhere and find a new shiny for the big boys to chase.They have. We just keep coming up short.
We won the last one at anniversary time. Come to think of it, a community challenge with a new stone to offer and an end goal that would be relatively easy to complete would be just the thing to take players minds off the negative feelings of cover swaps and seasonal vaults and earn some good will.
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@BriMan2222 said:
@Daredevil217 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
Maybe it's time to offer up the Stones elsewhere and find a new shiny for the big boys to chase.They have. We just keep coming up short.
We won the last one at anniversary time. Come to think of it, a community challenge with a new stone to offer and an end goal that would be relatively easy to complete would be just the thing to take players minds off the negative feelings of cover swaps and seasonal vaults and earn some good will.
hahaha
Well Chinese New Years is right around the corner.
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@Daredevil217 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
Maybe it's time to offer up the Stones elsewhere and find a new shiny for the big boys to chase.They have. We just keep coming up short.
I meant just put them in packs, they aren't really all that special after all this time. Time for something newer and more shiny.
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That's kinda sad when you think about it but I guess it is what it is.
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Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
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@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
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@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
I think most of the big roster already have all of the 4 stars ascended to 5. I'm not even a whale, and I had enough 370 4 stars and champed duplicates that I was able to ascend most of the 4 stars as soon as they were able to be ascended.
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@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
I think most of the big roster already have all of the 4 stars ascended to 5. I'm not even a whale, and I had enough 370 4 stars and champed duplicates that I was able to ascend most of the 4 stars as soon as they were able to be ascended.
Maybe they could win a Season boost advantage they could apply to PVP that put them beyond even the 550 boost or something for one Season. I dunno. Or maybe a cookie?
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@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
I would love this. PvP rewards, and especially season rewards, really need a revamp. Tons of these players are cooperating right now because there's nothing worth competing for.
I don't know what they could realistically give out for finishing #1 in an event's CL10 bracket, but what if it was, like, 2000 5* bonus shards? Would that be enough for the top few players to start fighting again?
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@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
I think most of the big roster already have all of the 4 stars ascended to 5. I'm not even a whale, and I had enough 370 4 stars and champed duplicates that I was able to ascend most of the 4 stars as soon as they were able to be ascended.
Maybe they could win a Season boost advantage they could apply to PVP that put them beyond even the 550 boost or something for one Season. I dunno. Or maybe a cookie?
I like this idea. If you won the season and then for the next season you would have say, an extra 50 levels boost so your 672 would be 722, I bet that big advantage would get people to fight for it.
But, that might be to OP. the first person who won it would be at a great advantage to keep winning it. Plus it would probably be pretty difficult to code one person to get an extra level boost.... Maybe with the new engine....
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@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
I think most of the big roster already have all of the 4 stars ascended to 5. I'm not even a whale, and I had enough 370 4 stars and champed duplicates that I was able to ascend most of the 4 stars as soon as they were able to be ascended.
Maybe they could win a Season boost advantage they could apply to PVP that put them beyond even the 550 boost or something for one Season. I dunno. Or maybe a cookie?
I like this idea. If you won the season and then for the next season you would have say, an extra 50 levels boost so your 672 would be 722, I bet that big advantage would get people to fight for it.
But, that might be to OP. the first person who won it would be at a great advantage to keep winning it. Plus it would probably be pretty difficult to code one person to get an extra level boost.... Maybe with the new engine....
You are probably right. I still feel the Stones are old hat at the higher levels now, these players do need something new to change things up.
The new engine has unlimited possibilities - well, at least maybe new PVE!
EB is also hundred percent right that Season (and PVP rewards generally) desperately need improving for all of us. I don't understand the reticence with this but they said no on a Q&A not too long ago. It is crazy the gap between 4* shards and final CP, surely players would try and go deeper in PvP if there was incentive enough.
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@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
@DAZ0273 said:
@BriMan2222 said:
Maybe if a new shiny thing is shiny enough it would get them to actually fight for first place. Of course something shiny enough to do that would probably be too OP.
4a5 covers? I am a bit scared of an even more OP support but I guess it would take something like that or a 6*.
I think most of the big roster already have all of the 4 stars ascended to 5. I'm not even a whale, and I had enough 370 4 stars and champed duplicates that I was able to ascend most of the 4 stars as soon as they were able to be ascended.
Maybe they could win a Season boost advantage they could apply to PVP that put them beyond even the 550 boost or something for one Season. I dunno. Or maybe a cookie?
I like this idea. If you won the season and then for the next season you would have say, an extra 50 levels boost so your 672 would be 722, I bet that big advantage would get people to fight for it.
But, that might be to OP. the first person who won it would be at a great advantage to keep winning it. Plus it would probably be pretty difficult to code one person to get an extra level boost.... Maybe with the new engine....
You are probably right. I still feel the Stones are old hat at the higher levels now, these players do need something new to change things up.
The new engine has unlimited possibilities - well, at least maybe new PVE!
EB is also hundred percent right that Season (and PVP rewards generally) desperately need improving for all of us. I don't understand the reticence with this but they said no on a Q&A not too long ago. It is crazy the gap between 4* shards and final CP, surely players would try and go deeper in PvP if there was incentive enough.
It's not just that gap in the rewards structure (although it's also that gap in rewards structure) -- right now PvP rewards are pretty bad overall but they're also concentrated in progression, which is why almost no one cares about placement.
If you look at the difference between different slices it's really stark. In slice 2, scoring about 1250 is almost always going to put you top 5 in CL10, but it's not that easy to score 1250. Someone will have to tell me what that rank is in slice 1, but I bet it's top 50 or top 100 -- it's just much easier to hit that score there, so lots more players do it.
And yet, informed players choose slice 1 over slice 2 at like a 5-to-1 (or more!) ratio. Why? Because getting progression rewards easily is far more important than having a better chance to earn (generally quite bad) placement rewards.
They should improve PvP rewards across the board, because they lag way behind PvE. But they should dramatically improve placement rewards, to give the competitive players a reason to compete.
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You wanna spark a real competition in PVP?
Make the season placement rewards offer a month long discount on cover swaps. Maybe 1st place gets 90% discount, 2-5 get 50% discount, 6-10 get 25% discount, 11-25 get 10% discount.
That will spark the competitive cutthroat juices
KGB
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@KGB said:
You wanna spark a real competition in PVP?Make the season placement rewards offer a month long discount on cover swaps. Maybe 1st place gets 90% discount, 2-5 get 50% discount, 6-10 get 25% discount, 11-25 get 10% discount.
That will spark the competitive cutthroat juices
KGB
I wish I could like this post more than once!
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@KGB said:
You wanna spark a real competition in PVP?Make the season placement rewards offer a month long discount on cover swaps. Maybe 1st place gets 90% discount, 2-5 get 50% discount, 6-10 get 25% discount, 11-25 get 10% discount.
That will spark the competitive cutthroat juices
KGB
I like this but they would also have to allow swapping to the character with the new banner or the big dogs won't care. In general though this could actually shake things up a lot.
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We've speculated about a "swap token" -- what if first place in a CL10 event gave you 10 swap tokens, and first place in a season gave you 100 more?
That'd allow players to get roughly the same level of service they were getting before, without paying anything for it!
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@KGB said:
You wanna spark a real competition in PVP?Make the season placement rewards offer a month long discount on cover swaps. Maybe 1st place gets 90% discount, 2-5 get 50% discount, 6-10 get 25% discount, 11-25 get 10% discount.
That will spark the competitive cutthroat juices
KGB
Like Eris tossing a golden apple...
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