2025 Community Rebalance Vote

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  • Mr_F
    Mr_F Posts: 746 Critical Contributor
    edited 11 January 2025, 22:17

    @S0kun said:
    We've updated the 2025 Rebalance Survey to include 5 Star characters. In hindsight, we literally pulled the least used characters since the theme was to "raise from the dead" characters that weren't played as much, but it inadvertently turned into a 4-Star survey. So now you'll see a second question specific to the least used 5-Stars as well. Thank you for casting your vote!

    https://mpq.social/2025rebalance

    And that is the problem. There are multiple reason why certain character will or will not be used much. Picking a character to rebalance NEVER should rely only on who is least used. Ask question "WHY?".

    I give ya free answer: There are many factors... but most likely, IMO , is existence of character such as DR STRANGE, POLARIS, FEAR IT SELF JUGGERNAUT, mTHOR or SHANG CHI. No joke speaking, why anybody has to chase any other 3* when Strange and May speed ups PVE by a lot? Why to chase any other than Polaris/Grocket/Juggs in 4* land (and 5* kinda too) when that trio IS making any PVE faster than Quicksilver ever will be?

    But even if we exclude above, like we forget that they exist and are like 15+ on 1-10 scale... then the simple reason why a character X is less used is how fast I can use any of their abilities or how reliable they are. For example, Ant-Man needs at least 15+ AP to fire "Grow" (Purple2 or Blue2) AKA his NUKE and if we add fact that it REMOVES all purple and blue swarm tiles... and he has AP cost reduction based on number of swarm tiles on board... Spider-Woman needs 12 AP to fire her red. Elektra (3* and 4* ) has low damage output and their purple is lucklasting. 4* Wasp kit and color overlap autokill ANY synergy she could have with other swarm tile users. 5* is too expensive and convoluted for many players and has only one build (5/3/5 cause her yellow on 4/5 is same as on 3 covers). Yelena has too low health and her red, compared to current AP costs, is lucklusting. 3* Hunter was almost immediatly outclassed by 3* May and 5* kit is convoluted, Peggy is too slow. Gvenom has no good teammates to use her potential and solo she is useless.

    Kitty is old character and in current standard of new releases, underpowered. But her kit is still good enough to be used now. 5* Electro is also weak but her AoE DR keep her in use. Especially when paired with 5* Elektra when she can just kill Omera red very fast.

    Do I need to continue?

    P.S. There is also a factor of being in 5* land. Unless ascened to 5*, 4* and 3* **ARE DEAD ** for me. I would LOVE to use X-23, Mantis, Dazzler, Domino.... I just can't. Yet.

  • Daniel2121
    Daniel2121 Posts: 209 Tile Toppler
    edited 12 January 2025, 22:30

    Would gladly like to see 5* Moon Knight rebalanced. Since he wasn't in the list for 5* choices for a current rework I had to add his name separately on the last box. Hope he gets a rework someday.

    Like many others I ended up voting for Black Knight, Hydra Stomper, and Cosmo. But I would have voted for Agent Venom if I had the choice too. He's been around since forever in this game and in the same useless state as always.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,113 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Daniel2121 said:
    Would gladly like to see 5* Moon Knight rebalanced. Since he wasn't in the list for 5* choices for a current rework I had to add his name separately on the last box. Hope he gets a rework someday.

    Like many others I ended up voting for Black Knight, Hydra Stomper, and Cosmo. But I would have voted for Agent Venom if I had the choice too.

    5* Moon Knight has already been reworked (and he's awesome now!).

  • Daniel2121
    Daniel2121 Posts: 209 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Daniel2121 said:
    Would gladly like to see 5* Moon Knight rebalanced. Since he wasn't in the list for 5* choices for a current rework I had to add his name separately on the last box. Hope he gets a rework someday.

    Like many others I ended up voting for Black Knight, Hydra Stomper, and Cosmo. But I would have voted for Agent Venom if I had the choice too.

    5* Moon Knight has already been reworked (and he's awesome now!).

    O rly? Dang. I wasn't aware of that. How about Abigail? Was she reworked too? I tossed all these 5* covers away back in the day, heh

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,113 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 12 January 2025, 22:45

    @Daniel2121 said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Daniel2121 said:
    Would gladly like to see 5* Moon Knight rebalanced. Since he wasn't in the list for 5* choices for a current rework I had to add his name separately on the last box. Hope he gets a rework someday.

    Like many others I ended up voting for Black Knight, Hydra Stomper, and Cosmo. But I would have voted for Agent Venom if I had the choice too.

    5* Moon Knight has already been reworked (and he's awesome now!).

    O rly? Dang. I wasn't aware of that. How about Abigail? Was she reworked too? I tossed all these 5* covers away back in the day, heh

    She's still terrible. Moon Knight is actually super fun now though!

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,909 Chairperson of the Boards

    I picked Moon Knight as my favorite 5 on a survey post-rebalance at one point. Mostly because he’s lots of fun.

  • Hellblazer666
    Hellblazer666 Posts: 211 Tile Toppler

    I chose Odin Heimdall and Peggy Worthy for the 5 Stars. Odin just sucks and I was so disappointed when he finally made it into the game and he was a big pile of meh.

  • Rejoinder
    Rejoinder Posts: 17 Just Dropped In

    Sersi is my number one pick, as she was my first champed 5*. Then again, I still actively win with her, so hopefully they don't break the few things that work about her.

  • Druiz23
    Druiz23 Posts: 33 Just Dropped In

    @S0kun said:
    We've updated the 2025 Rebalance Survey to include 5 Star characters. In hindsight, we literally pulled the least used characters since the theme was to "raise from the dead" characters that weren't played as much, but it inadvertently turned into a 4-Star survey. So now you'll see a second question specific to the least used 5-Stars as well. Thank you for casting your vote!

    https://mpq.social/2025rebalance

    I am having a hard time believing that people are using Knull so much, that he wasn’t the least used 5 star. How? How is this even possible? My vote is to rebalance him. He’s one of the worst 5 stars. He does next to no damage. Well come to think of it, neither does Jeffrey. Hmmm. So many 5 stars do next to no damage.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,429 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 20 January 2025, 11:04

    @Druiz23 said:

    @S0kun said:
    We've updated the 2025 Rebalance Survey to include 5 Star characters. In hindsight, we literally pulled the least used characters since the theme was to "raise from the dead" characters that weren't played as much, but it inadvertently turned into a 4-Star survey. So now you'll see a second question specific to the least used 5-Stars as well. Thank you for casting your vote!

    https://mpq.social/2025rebalance

    I am having a hard time believing that people are using Knull so much, that he wasn’t the least used 5 star. How? How is this even possible? My vote is to rebalance him. He’s one of the worst 5 stars. He does next to no damage. Well come to think of it, neither does Jeffrey. Hmmm. So many 5 stars do next to no damage.

    I like Knull because he's got an interesting kit and he's a good meat shield. Sure he could hit a little harder but there are plenty of other worse 5*s. It would be fun to have a sandbox mode so Knull and Peggy could face off 1 v 1 in a fight to the death.

  • trenchdigger
    trenchdigger Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    That would be great to rank every 5 from best to worst at 1 v 1