Raise from the dead poll

entrailbucket

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

Timemachinego

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

Ghost Rider is probably the most glaring example of that. I THINK he got slightly more useable overall but he lost some of the spice that made people wish he was better in the first place.

ThaRoadWarrior

man do i wish they'd revert Hell Ride to it's previous state...

entrailbucket

@Timemachinego said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

Ghost Rider is probably the most glaring example of that. I THINK he got slightly more useable overall but he lost some of the spice that made people wish he was better in the first place.

Yeah, he definitely did get better overall, he just turned into something different.

JoeHandle

Just be simple about it ... the oldest character that needs help.

BSSM
Goblin
Bolt

If a 4*, Hulkbuster. Not the oldest in need of help, but he looks awesome and should be awesome.

WilliamK1983

In no particular order

Odin - The All Father, Protector of the Nine Realms, hits as soft as a feather. Make his red aoe would be a start.

Knull - useful meatshield.

GED - I'd love his rebalance to happen well before summer 2026.

Loki - not the worst kit, but his green ap cost is high for a 3 turn repeater. Maybe from 11 down to 8 and 3 turn to 2?

Hela - can we show some respect to Lady Galadriel. Haven't used her since I've champed her so I don't know how fast her sap tiles gain strength, if much at all.

4* hydra stomper, winter soldier, hulkbuster and free the limiteds!

DAZ0273

Hydra Stomper is a bit of a weird one, he can be OK but his kit is a bit awkward to use. Whilst the stun immunity extension to Peggy is fine it would be better if it was expanded a bit to say include all Captain America's or SHIELD affiliations.

Bzhai

I agree that the older ones should get updated first but fresh stinkers like Symbiote Miles and Worthy Peggy should not be allowed to exist as is. So hope the devs will get on it soon.

DAZ0273

Oh Pegor, I had forgotten all about her. She is bad (but so is Victor, boy do I wish I could get that iso back...)

bluewolf

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

The devs have, apparently, tightly managed schedules as far as what work they can do, etc and I’m sure a lot of prioritization revolves around “how can we make more money from this work?”.

So the once a season rebalance is always accompanied by a costume/cover bundle chain because lots of players buy costumes (esp for $10, now).

The only just-number bump I recall in the past year since I came back was for the Runaways which tied into the Leapfrog support release. This made sense as many of them were/are mediocre to terrible toons and trying to make them better via a lower time investment numbers bump, so you might spend cash on the Leapfrog at release, was a good idea, imo.

So while we always think a numbers bump would be easy and simple, and it would, it still would likely be hard to monetize on its own under their current work approach. Hence they don’t happen.

DAZ0273

IDEAS For The Devs to monetise Rebalances:

Black Bolt - Scream mask costume! Not only is it ironic but also nets some of those Halloween $$$$
Black Panther - Hello Kitty costume! Adorable!
Green Goblin - David Bowie Labyrinth costume! Now your Goblin will not only sow terror with his pumpkin bombs, he'll kidnap a baby too!
Abigail Brand - I have no idea whatsoever! Who? Or maybe that is it? She could just have a costume with a question mark on it as nobody knows who she is anyway!
Black Suit Spider-Man - Black Suit costume but this one is, uhm, the symbiote! Honestly there is a difference! Min/Max for the Devs!
Knull - Uhm...I might be running out of ideas here. Anybody?
Loki - I don't know, he already has a wolf no he doesn't wrong one so maybe a pet cat Support or something? I'm not getting paid for this...

entrailbucket

@bluewolf said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

The devs have, apparently, tightly managed schedules as far as what work they can do, etc and I’m sure a lot of prioritization revolves around “how can we make more money from this work?”.

So the once a season rebalance is always accompanied by a costume/cover bundle chain because lots of players buy costumes (esp for $10, now).

The only just-number bump I recall in the past year since I came back was for the Runaways which tied into the Leapfrog support release. This made sense as many of them were/are mediocre to terrible toons and trying to make them better via a lower time investment numbers bump, so you might spend cash on the Leapfrog at release, was a good idea, imo.

So while we always think a numbers bump would be easy and simple, and it would, it still would likely be hard to monetize on its own under their current work approach. Hence they don’t happen.

This makes so much sense and seems so obvious in retrospect that I can't believe I ever seriously asked the question.

Thank you!

BriMan2222

@Bzhai said:
I agree that the older ones should get updated first but fresh stinkers like Symbiote Miles and Worthy Peggy should not be allowed to exist as is. So hope the devs will get on it soon.

Didn't they say that Peggy was released with the wrong numbers and that they planned to update her "soon" to fit what she was originally intended to be?

ThisisClemFandango

@BriMan2222 said:

@Bzhai said:
I agree that the older ones should get updated first but fresh stinkers like Symbiote Miles and Worthy Peggy should not be allowed to exist as is. So hope the devs will get on it soon.

Didn't they say that Peggy was released with the wrong numbers and that they planned to update her "soon" to fit what she was originally intended to be?

• New game engine *

pepitedechocolat

I'd love any cap rework, all of his versions seems bad to terribad.

JoeHandle

@pepitedechocolat said:
I'd love any cap rework, all of his versions seems bad to terribad.

See: First Avenger

Note: best cap STILL needs a new feeder! Does it have to wait until New World Order ???

entrailbucket

@JoeHandle said:

@pepitedechocolat said:
I'd love any cap rework, all of his versions seems bad to terribad.

See: First Avenger

Note: best cap STILL needs a new feeder! Does it have to wait until New World Order???

First Avenger Cap is really, really good!

He's been reworked twice now, and the first one was bad but the second one was GREAT. Why do people still think he's bad?

JoeHandle

@entrailbucket said:

@bluewolf said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

The devs have, apparently, tightly managed schedules as far as what work they can do, etc and I’m sure a lot of prioritization revolves around “how can we make more money from this work?”.

So the once a season rebalance is always accompanied by a costume/cover bundle chain because lots of players buy costumes (esp for $10, now).

The only just-number bump I recall in the past year since I came back was for the Runaways which tied into the Leapfrog support release. This made sense as many of them were/are mediocre to terrible toons and trying to make them better via a lower time investment numbers bump, so you might spend cash on the Leapfrog at release, was a good idea, imo.

So while we always think a numbers bump would be easy and simple, and it would, it still would likely be hard to monetize on its own under their current work approach. Hence they don’t happen.

This makes so much sense and seems so obvious in retrospect that I can't believe I ever seriously asked the question.

Thank you!

What a polite response!

What the @#$& is this forum coming to???

entrailbucket

@JoeHandle said:

@entrailbucket said:

@bluewolf said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Timemachinego said:
My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.

Yeah, for whatever reason they mostly seem reluctant to just do numbers changes, though. Everybody they rework seems to get a more significant redo.

Which is fine! But some of the guys they've picked don't actually NEED a total redo, and some of the guys they haven't picked really do.

The devs have, apparently, tightly managed schedules as far as what work they can do, etc and I’m sure a lot of prioritization revolves around “how can we make more money from this work?”.

So the once a season rebalance is always accompanied by a costume/cover bundle chain because lots of players buy costumes (esp for $10, now).

The only just-number bump I recall in the past year since I came back was for the Runaways which tied into the Leapfrog support release. This made sense as many of them were/are mediocre to terrible toons and trying to make them better via a lower time investment numbers bump, so you might spend cash on the Leapfrog at release, was a good idea, imo.

So while we always think a numbers bump would be easy and simple, and it would, it still would likely be hard to monetize on its own under their current work approach. Hence they don’t happen.

This makes so much sense and seems so obvious in retrospect that I can't believe I ever seriously asked the question.

Thank you!

What a polite response!

What the @#$& is this forum coming to???

I promise it'll never happen again.

ThisisClemFandango

Oh he's civil on this discussion I see