Raise from the dead poll

ThisisClemFandango

Let's say we do manage to hit 200m and we get to choose whose next for a rebalance, I was interested to see what everyone's thoughts are

I would say either Odin or God doom, both are deities which at the moment are weaker than 3 kittens.

OK people let's hear what you think

Omegased

Ged for sure. I really don't think he would be challenging. Expand his healing/ap steal, lower his black cost and give it a "no revive", and you're good to go.

KGB

Problem with rebalancing a 5 star is that only a tiny majority of players benefit (5 star players are already a small fraction and then add in a very old 5 star and you are talking a fraction of a fraction of players have that character champed).

It's gotta be a 4 star character or even a 3 star given the entire player base contributed to this effort. Heck, maybe we can rebalance Bag Man

KGB

BriMan2222

Green goblin, 5 star black widow, Abigail brand, 5 star loki

bluewolf

I believe last year’s was Strange.

I’d vote for GED.

The only downside is he’s sometimes in pve nodes….but he’s kinda sad.

concillado

I would say Odin in order to rightfully match him up with several other meta characters in interesting team constellatuons (synergies)!

Codex

I am surprised knull has not been mentioned yet. This guy a big sack of health. His damage output are too low.

Bzhai

I see Black Widow and Black suit Spidey being mentioned the most. Probably Spidey coz of his popularity.

Wishful thinking but I hope they let us vote one from each tier coz I was playing ME Hulk yesterday and omg didn't realise his powers are so expensive to fire.

DAZ0273

All of the above are good choices but I would really like to see Black Bolt lifted up to where he should be. If we are talking 4* then Red Guardian may have the least helpful set of powers in the entire game whilst at 3* level Vision has always stuck out as badly needing reworking so you get some benefit from his blue.

rainkingucd

Black Widow. 3*, 4*, or 5*. All of them could use it

Daredevil217

God Doom mostly because he’s my favorite supervillain (not just because he sucks). So I’ll vote not based on who is worse (though he’s down there) but who I like.

ThaRoadWarrior

I’d love a usable Doom, but he is far from the worst. Characters I would propose:

Ultron - needs to be stun immune and actually do something
Knull - needs to do…anything at all.
Odin - same as Ultron
Abigail Brand - yellow should be like Command Decision and reduce a repeater to zero on fire
Black Suit Spider Man - he has all the tools to be good but isn’t

DAZ0273

Black Suit Spidey needs as well as a general numbers boost, for his green to be much cheaper and his strike tiles reduction not to be niche with just affecting strike tiles but all SAP tiles so as not to be hopelessly out of date. We should have at least one good Spidey at the 5* tier who isn't ascended. His blue could hit harder too but you do get the stun.

DAZ0273

Odin - quite frankly I would scrap him entirely and start again. His powers do not fit Odin thematically at all.

Ultron should either be super defensive being coated in adamantium or all out offence meaning ramp up his red. His stun also takes way too long to come into effect. He suffers from being a Boss adaptation.

Brand's purple is pathetic which is a shame as you don't get many pure damage dealing purple powers (and definitely don't with her). Her yellow makes no sense. She is just a mess.

I haven't used Knull enough to really comment but if you are summoning dragons it should be good!

entrailbucket

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I’d love a usable Doom, but he is far from the worst. Characters I would propose:

Ultron - needs to be stun immune and actually do something
Knull - needs to do…anything at all.
Odin - same as Ultron
Abigail Brand - yellow should be like Command Decision and reduce a repeater to zero on fire
Black Suit Spider Man - he has all the tools to be good but isn’t

A few more (that are probably so awful you forgot they existed!):

Black Widow
Black Bolt
Black Panther
Cable
Infinity War Cap
Green Goblin
Hela
Loki
Rescue
Heimdall

DAZ0273

Loki and Hela really need help.

I'm not sure what you do with Panther, maybe his return from stun power was fine back in the day but these days he is just getting killed.

Make Rescue's red as good or better than the Wong summons!

Cable green maybe make it 50% minimum team damage or difference after hitting, whichever is higher.

Goblin just feels like number bumps, Widow too with some tweaks.

Heimdall - without some sort of fortified tile meta I dunno what you do with him.

Infinity Cap needs his now redundant purple re-worked and maybe his yellow cheaper.

rainkingucd

@DAZ0273 said:
I'm not sure what you do with Panther, maybe his return from stun power was fine back in the day but these days he is just getting killed.

Do to him what they did to Sinister: ridiculously low threshold to trigger his passive

entrailbucket

@rainkingucd said:

@DAZ0273 said:
I'm not sure what you do with Panther, maybe his return from stun power was fine back in the day but these days he is just getting killed.

Do to him what they did to Sinister: ridiculously low threshold to trigger his passive

I think he might still be bad!

He was usable when the return from stun thing was worthwhile, but his other stuff was always really bad. Now that the wakeup damage thing is also bad, he's completely useless.

ThaRoadWarrior

I actually try to use Goblin with Ascended Carol all the time, and every time it makes me sad that he has 4* health and can’t stay alive long enough to make big strikes that pump up as soon as they come into existence from Carol.

Same with Hela - she is fun with 4* Doom because his 5hp bots count for the death boost. Until you realize she isn’t really doing a fraction of what ascended Nico does every turn

entrailbucket

@ThaRoadWarrior said:
I actually try to use Goblin with Ascended Carol all the time, and every time it makes me sad that he has 4* health and can’t stay alive long enough to make big strikes that pump up as soon as they come into existence from Carol.

Same with Hela - she is fun with 4* Doom because his 5hp bots count for the death boost. Until you realize she isn’t really doing a fraction of what ascended Nico does every turn

They've done a good job bringing a bunch of previously terrible 5* up to "usable when boosted" levels, but the situation was SO awful when this started that there's still a lot of work to do.

My list (except for Rescue and Heimdall, who are both around 510) was exclusively characters I have completely maxed at 550, who are totally unusable in all situations, even when boosted to 672.

When characters at 450 are better than characters at 672, that's a pretty serious problem.

Timemachinego

My heart says GED but all he REALLY needs is some modern numbers. I wish they'd just unload a ton of those kind of updates (Xmas present, maybe?) so we as a community could focus on the characters that simply just don't work like BP, Yelena, Brand or Odin.