We've got some answers here for you to your recent questions for the DEVs!
They said the thing!
Sounds like we're about to get a bunch of random m'Thor counters!
@ThisisClemFandango said: They said the thing!
They said it!
@BriMan2222 said: @ThisisClemFandango said: They said the thing! They said it!
@BriMan2222 said:
Inspired. Exceptional work
"Choose your own reward" (hopefully that interpretation is on point) sounds like an interesting and well-serving feature.
@PHOTONrumbeau [Official Forums]Question: Is this order of releases (4*, costume, 3* and 5*, support) planned to remain until the end of 2024 or do you plan to change it? And in the coming years?Answer: Devpool: Sort of, but not exactly. You'll see what I mean very very soon.
Anyone else notice this. Clearly about to get something new added to the release cycle.
Smells like a poll (which I am too lazy to create so lets list a few things there) 1) New 1* releases 2) New 2* releases 3) 6* releases 4) Something else
KGB
@KGB said: @PHOTONrumbeau [Official Forums]Question: Is this order of releases (4*, costume, 3* and 5*, support) planned to remain until the end of 2024 or do you plan to change it? And in the coming years?Answer: Devpool: Sort of, but not exactly. You'll see what I mean very very soon. Anyone else notice this. Clearly about to get something new added to the release cycle. Smells like a poll (which I am too lazy to create so lets list a few things there) 1) New 1* releases 2) New 2* releases 3) 6* releases 4) Something else KGB
@KGB said:
I didn't catch that. That's pretty exciting, actually, whether it's 1, 2, 3, or 4 (I don't know what 4 could possibly be, though)!
4* releases might become dual 4/1 or 2 releases.
@Ptahhotep said: 4* releases might become dual 4/1 or 2 releases.
Increase the releases! Tri 5/3/1 releases and dual 4/2 releases!
Why are we all getting excited about diluting the 1* pool so it takes longer to add levels to those?
Y’all: OMG new 1s and 2s!!!!! Yaaaaa!!!!
Devs: what if we switched the weeks we released the costume and support?
@fight4thedream [Official Forums] Question: What are the dev team's thoughts on the power discrepancies between maxed 5* characters & their ascended counterparts, e.g. 3* Thanos' Court Death does double the damage of 5* Thanos? It's a bit jarring since 5* Thanos wields the Infinity Gauntlet. Answer: It's something we're monitoring! In a way, Ascension felt like releasing hundreds of brand-new characters into the game. Tons of planning went into it, and now we're keeping an eye on things to see how it all plays out now that it's live! IceIX: 3-Star Thanos DOES deal more damage than 5-Star with Court Death, but 5-Star also stuns, which 3-Star doesn't. Whenever possible, especially with Ascensions, we wanted to make sure that even with similar abilities that there's a different ""flavor"" between the versions. In this case, not having the stun leaves more overall ability budget to go into damage, so it did.
@fight4thedream [Official Forums] Question: What are the dev team's thoughts on the power discrepancies between maxed 5* characters & their ascended counterparts, e.g. 3* Thanos' Court Death does double the damage of 5* Thanos? It's a bit jarring since 5* Thanos wields the Infinity Gauntlet.
Answer: It's something we're monitoring! In a way, Ascension felt like releasing hundreds of brand-new characters into the game. Tons of planning went into it, and now we're keeping an eye on things to see how it all plays out now that it's live! IceIX: 3-Star Thanos DOES deal more damage than 5-Star with Court Death, but 5-Star also stuns, which 3-Star doesn't. Whenever possible, especially with Ascensions, we wanted to make sure that even with similar abilities that there's a different ""flavor"" between the versions. In this case, not having the stun leaves more overall ability budget to go into damage, so it did.
@DevpoolMPQ_BCS @IceIX : Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. While I appreciate the desire to maintain a difference in flavor between the two characters, I ask that you consider the following stats:
5* Thanos at level 550
Health: 140408 Court of Death lv5: 30260 damage (7504 ally damage) + bonus effect of 2 turn stun Infinite Power lv5: 80% match damage + bonus effect of board control Come and Get Me lv5: 43817 AoE damage
Ascended 3* Thanos at level 550 (Unlimited)
Health: 223198 Court of Death lv5: 62387 (15978 ally damage) Infinite Power lv5: 260% match damage Come and Get Me lv5: 65374 AoE damage
I think it's clear that Ascended Pre-Gauntlet acquisition Thanos has better numbers across the board. Yes, 5* Thanos has static bonus effects of stun and board manipulation but these are only situationally useful and are double edged abilities since they affect your team as well. Furthermore, they are static abilities that don't increase when a player builds the character.
As a competitive player, it has caused me to lose interest in building up 5* Thanos; now I am focused on building his 3* counter part. As a comic geek, it's going to bug me to think Thanos would spend all that effort acquiring the Infinity Gems to only have his health and damage reduced.
The Infinity Gauntlet should enhance his abilities, not make them appear to be less.
On that note, I argue that 5* Thanos should be updated to better distinguish him from his 3* Ascended counterpart. I think it would be worthwhile to explore how to better represent his use of the Infinity Gauntlet as the current version only implies that he makes use of 2: the Time Stone (stun) and Space Stones (board control). What about the remaining 4 stones?
Finally, I realize that perhaps in the future 5* characters may also be able to be Ascended (Champion 3.0?) but unless that is restricted to 5*characters only, I imagine we will still run into the same numbers problem. I should also be clear that I am not asking for a nerf on *Ascended Thanos but rather a better interpretation of the Thanos who snapped half of all existence into oblivion.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I hope it provides food for thought. And as always, thank you for your hard work. Despite my minor gripes, I do believe the new Ascension system has breathed new life into the game and has me excited. Be well and take care!
@fight4thedream said: @fight4thedream [Official Forums] Question: What are the dev team's thoughts on the power discrepancies between maxed 5* characters & their ascended counterparts, e.g. 3* Thanos' Court Death does double the damage of 5* Thanos? It's a bit jarring since 5* Thanos wields the Infinity Gauntlet. Answer: It's something we're monitoring! In a way, Ascension felt like releasing hundreds of brand-new characters into the game. Tons of planning went into it, and now we're keeping an eye on things to see how it all plays out now that it's live! IceIX: 3-Star Thanos DOES deal more damage than 5-Star with Court Death, but 5-Star also stuns, which 3-Star doesn't. Whenever possible, especially with Ascensions, we wanted to make sure that even with similar abilities that there's a different ""flavor"" between the versions. In this case, not having the stun leaves more overall ability budget to go into damage, so it did. @DevpoolMPQ_BCS @IceIX : Thank you for taking the time to answer my question. While I appreciate the desire to maintain a difference in flavor between the two characters, I ask that you consider the following stats: 5* Thanos at level 550 Health: 140408 Court of Death lv5: 30260 damage (7504 ally damage) + bonus effect of 2 turn stun Infinite Power lv5: 80% match damage + bonus effect of board control Come and Get Me lv5: 43817 AoE damage Ascended 3* Thanos at level 550 (Unlimited) Health: 223198 Court of Death lv5: 62387 (15978 ally damage) Infinite Power lv5: 260% match damage Come and Get Me lv5: 65374 AoE damage I think it's clear that Ascended Pre-Gauntlet acquisition Thanos has better numbers across the board. Yes, 5* Thanos has static bonus effects of stun and board manipulation but these are only situationally useful and are double edged abilities since they affect your team as well. Furthermore, they are static abilities that don't increase when a player builds the character. As a competitive player, it has caused me to lose interest in building up 5* Thanos; now I am focused on building his 3* counter part. As a comic geek, it's going to bug me to think Thanos would spend all that effort acquiring the Infinity Gems to only have his health and damage reduced. The Infinity Gauntlet should enhance his abilities, not make them appear to be less. On that note, I argue that 5* Thanos should be updated to better distinguish him from his 3* Ascended counterpart. I think it would be worthwhile to explore how to better represent his use of the Infinity Gauntlet as the current version only implies that he makes use of 2: the Time Stone (stun) and Space Stones (board control). What about the remaining 4 stones? Finally, I realize that perhaps in the future 5* characters may also be able to be Ascended (Champion 3.0?) but unless that is restricted to 5*characters only, I imagine we will still run into the same numbers problem. I should also be clear that I am not asking for a nerf on *Ascended Thanos but rather a better interpretation of the Thanos who snapped half of all existence into oblivion. Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I hope it provides food for thought. And as always, thank you for your hard work. Despite my minor gripes, I do believe the new Ascension system has breathed new life into the game and has me excited. Be well and take care!
@fight4thedream said:
This was the answer I was most looking forward to and I’m extremely disappointed. There are other examples across the board where a 550 5* with a niche gets murdered by a 475 ascended 4*. It’s one thing to be “on par” but that Thanos discrepancy is a joke. The only “flavor” I see is 5* Thanos is garbage comparatively, across the board.
To add to that the stun is terrible 😂. He has one use now, HoD easy waves. “I am inevitable “ turned into “I am laughable”
Eh, I think it's good that the 3* and 4* characters become equivalent to modern 5* when ascended. The problem is that tons of the old 5* are SO much worse than modern ones.
They really need to go back and fix those guys if they're not going to retire them (ie remove them from all tokens, feeders, essential, and features).
Equivalent, sure? Completely outclass? No thanks.
How many classic 5 stars got reworked in 2023? How many are planned to be reworked in 2024?
@Zalasta said: How many classic 5 stars got reworked in 2023? How many are planned to be reworked in 2024?
This is the answers thread. You'll have to ask this in next months questions.
The answer is "not enough" to both.
@StanleyBurrell said: Equivalent, sure? Completely outclass? No thanks.
Do you really think they outclass modern 5*? I've seen a few examples of strong ones, but for the most part the ascended guys just have really big numbers attached to ancient abilities.
@entrailbucket said: @StanleyBurrell said: Equivalent, sure? Completely outclass? No thanks. Do you really think they outclass modern 5*? I've seen a few examples of strong ones, but for the most part the ascended guys just have really big numbers attached to ancient abilities.
@entrailbucket said:
I think he's speaking specifically about Thanos. And from what I've seen 3 Thanos seems to be a much better option than 5 Thanos.