Spider’s questions on PvP

System
System Posts: 1,034 Chairperson of the Boards
edited January 2023 in MPQ General Discussion
This discussion was created from comments split from: What 2,000 tokens got me.. It began from this comment (essentially @Sekilicious hijacked the thread).

It is pretty easy to grind out 50 wins. If you are online when the event starts they gift you 8-10 wins to get points in the sub. If you have Shang-Chi or mThor+Polaris wins come easy and you are a grill on defense. Hit everything available until you reach 500+. Come back later and hit all the red nodes you can. I use Chasm and 3* Thanos for the initial clears and Shang-Chi and a Valkyrie with 3 black covers to climb. I find three to four 20 minute sessions are enough to get to 50. When I was a 4* player it was even easier. I Polarised (+Grocket or Sabertooth) and Karnak/Chavezed everything and could often make it to 900 points in a session then drop back to 400, though it was 75 wins back then.

There are 4* players that hop to 1200 points through Line. Knowing when grills are being posted and posting your own is, by far, the easiest way to get to progression with minimal effort. The Line community is pretty great as well.
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  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    @Sekilicious said:
    It is pretty easy to grind out 50 wins. If you are online when the event starts they gift you 8-10 wins to get points in the sub. If you have Shang-Chi or mThor+Polaris wins come easy and you are a grill on defense. Hit everything available until you reach 500+. Come back later and hit all the red nodes you can. I use Chasm and 3* Thanos for the initial clears and Shang-Chi and a Valkyrie with 3 black covers to climb. I find three to four 20 minute sessions are enough to get to 50. When I was a 4* player it was even easier. I Polarised (+Grocket or Sabertooth) and Karnak/Chavezed everything and could often make it to 900 points in a session then drop back to 400, though it was 75 wins back then.

    There are 4* players that hop to 1200 points through Line. Knowing when grills are being posted and posting your own is, by far, the easiest way to get to progression with minimal effort. The Line community is pretty great as well.

    I'll give it a go.. my champed 5*s are apoc kitty and killmonger I don't have enough covers for any of the Immortal Hulk,chasm, shang-chi etc

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards

    Killmonger or Apocalypse and Chavez work pretty well together in Pick-2.

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler
    edited January 2023

    @Bowgentle said:
    He'll have an extremely rough time with dual 5* MMR with those 3, though.
    Wall to wall Hulkasm and weekly boosted.

    Yes I noticed this but didn't really start to see these teams until I got upto around 900 pts then I just got battered and dropped back down to 400 in about 2 hrs.. I'm not bothered about the pts tho.. killmonger and chavez are OK but any 4* against a champed immortal hulk dosent last 2 minutes.. apoc works well with pretty much anyone especially polaris because of he's constant passives boosted my his yellow a cascade can be nasty but again same problem with her being taken out too quickly

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    The teams are a little easier now I'm back down to 388 pts similar rosters to myself

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2023

    @Sp1d3r said:
    The teams are a little easier now I'm back down to 388 pts similar rosters to myself

    Yeah. The point with trying to get to 50 wins is to have a low float point for easy matches. This off-season I repeatedly climbed right up to the chasm/boosted wall then did it again after the free fall. When I hop, I always shield around 900 pts then turn on notifications for Line to get the easier matches. My roster isn’t diverse enough to float very high. Before I got on Line I tried finding grills at 3 and 8 hour intervals then gave an hour so they could shield again. This doesn’t work as well and you blow through tons of iso, even at 10\skip

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards

    Ohhhh if you can reach 900 then you're fine> @Sekilicious said:

    @Sp1d3r said:
    The teams are a little easier now I'm back down to 388 pts similar rosters to myself

    Yeah. The point with trying to get to 50 wins is to have a low float point for easy matches. This off-season I repeatedly climbed right up to the chasm/boosted wall then did it again after the free fall. When I hop, I always shield around 900 pts then turn on notifications for Line to get the easier matches. My roster isn’t diverse enough to float very high.

    Unless you're rocking 550s, 650 is the float point for pretty much every team.

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    @Sekilicious said:

    @Sp1d3r said:
    The teams are a little easier now I'm back down to 388 pts similar rosters to myself

    Yeah. The point with trying to get to 50 wins is to have a low float point for easy matches. This off-season I repeatedly climbed right up to the chasm/boosted wall then did it again after the free fall. When I hop, I always shield around 900 pts then turn on notifications for Line to get the easier matches. My roster isn’t diverse enough to float very high. Before I got on Line I tried finding grills at 3 and 8 hour intervals then gave an hour so they could shield again. This doesn’t work as well and you blow through tons of iso, even at 10\skip

    Sorry to be a pain but what do u mean by when u hop? And I have line to talk to My alliance but how does it help find easier matches? Also what are grills? Sorry for all the questions but this is all new to me

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2023

    So hopping is from one shield to the next. If I put on a 3hr shield at 900 pts my next shield will be the 8 then the one after that will be 3 or 24 depending on whether I reach progression. The hop is when I target three grills between shields.

    Grills are teams that are terrible on defense and usually consist of a 5* good on offense (Shang-Chi, Okoye, Apocalypse etc), a 4* with synergy (Valkyrie, Chavez, Deadpool, Polaris), and the loaner. The last team you win with is the one that shows on defense, but it cannot be too much lower.

    You find grills by joining a Battle Room on Line. If your alliance has Line they probably have access to one of them. If not I know some moderators and can ask to hook you up in Slice 1. There is also a Line request thread in the alliance sub forum on this website.

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler
    edited January 2023

    @entrailbucket said:
    I'm no mod, but it seems like you have a lot of questions about a lot of different things, maybe make a post asking for advice instead of asking random unrelated questions on every other post?

    The conversation just spiraled it started off about hoarding.. i wasnt asking random questions I was replying to what ppl were writing..

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler
    edited January 2023


    I'm just skipping through the same 5 or so teams now.. If I'm only playing for wins I take it I have no need to shield so do I just leave it and come back to it later?

  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    No.. hit those 5 teams

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2023

    If you can’t beat those 5 teams find anything you can beat with Apocalypse, Chavez, and loaner. With those on defense you should drop and be able to find more easy teams.

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    I've managed a cpl of them but I can't do the hulk/chasm.. and there's a cpl with 2 550+ boosted 5*s

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    Oh and the chasm I beat hit me back again straight away if that matters

  • killahKlown
    killahKlown Posts: 584 Critical Contributor

    @Sp1d3r said:
    I've managed a cpl of them but I can't do the hulk/chasm.. and there's a cpl with 2 550+ boosted 5*s

    There's a whole other thread about endless Hulk Chasm teams. Get in line. Lol

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards

    Losses don’t matter. Points don’t matter. Only wins. If you win 50 1pt games and they hit you back 50 times you still reach progression and get 22 cp

  • fractalvisions
    fractalvisions Posts: 315 Mover and Shaker

    @Sp1d3r said:
    I'm just skipping through the same 5 or so teams now.. If I'm only playing for wins I take it I have no need to shield so do I just leave it and come back to it later?

    Yes. If you're already #6 with 2 days left, you've obviously climbed very high and so the system will show you limited number of options. If skipping doesn't find you any easier teams, it's probably best to come back later once others have climbed higher and others have attacked you. Then you should have more options.

  • Sp1d3r
    Sp1d3r Posts: 187 Tile Toppler

    I should have done this a long time ago hit 50 wins easy I've still got 1d 5hr to go.. doing this with progression from pve aswel my hoard should grow nicely.. thanks for all your advice...Sekilicious if I start to play for placement I'll hit u up for that line chat group if that's ok

  • Bowgentle
    Bowgentle Posts: 7,926 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2023

    @Sp1d3r said:
    I should have done this a long time ago hit 50 wins easy I've still got 1d 5hr to go.. doing this with progression from pve aswel my hoard should grow nicely.. thanks for all your advice...Sekilicious if I start to play for placement I'll hit u up for that line chat group if that's ok

    It'll be less about placement, more about switching from wins to points to not spend an eternity on PVP.
    Placement comes later.

  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards

    Yeah, what Bow said. The first step using Line is about using excess HP to reduce the number of game played from 50 to around 20. Placement is a different game all together.

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