Outcast Will Exile Cast Permanents - Is this WAD? [Investigating]

jtwood Posts: 1,200 Chairperson of the Boards
edited 19 September 2022, 15:36 in MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues
Sometimes, Outcast will result in a permanent being cast into play. At the end of that turn, that permanent will be exiled. This is true even if the previous versions of that permanent were not cast with Outcast. In the video below, a 24-shield Arixmethes is reinforced by an Outcast-copy of Arixmethes. At the end of the turn, the 28-shield support is exiled. I have also seen this with creatures cast via Outcast.
Is this how Outcast was intended to perform?


  • KrizzB
    KrizzB Posts: 81 Match Maker
    The same thing happened to me when my Riveteers Charm drew a Crimson Honour Guard and cast it, reinforcing the one already in play and subsequently exiled it once my turn was over.

    I really don't hope this was the intended way for Outcast to work, especially since Outcast in paper is removed from any card that is cast/moved to the battlefield and those cards are only exiled if they are still in your hand after you pass the turn to the opponent.
  • Mainloop25
    Mainloop25 Posts: 1,732 Chairperson of the Boards
    This severely limits the viability of this mechanic and should be redone
  • Oktagon_Support
    Oktagon_Support ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 2,738 Chairperson of the Boards

    Hello guys,

    Thank you for all the information provided, this issue will be investigated!
    If you have any additional information that you consider relevant, please don't hesitate to send me 😊


  • FindingHeart8
    FindingHeart8 Posts: 2,714 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 21 August 2022, 18:30
    Can confirm this is still an issue with Urabrask, Heretic Praetor, at least when Outcast cards are reinforced 
  • Machine
    Machine Posts: 663 Critical Contributor
    Yep, still an issue. A creature and a vanguard I had in play where both reinforced by a copy with outcast and both the creature and the vanguard were exiled end of turn, even though the originals were hard cast without outcast.