Khalni + Yavimaya [Investigating]

Julie71

 soft lock caused by Khalni + Yavimaya.  @Oktagon_Support

BongoTheGrey

This is still happening even after yesterday's data push. Yavimaya Cradle of Growth is softlocking the game and you are forced to quit the match and lose the points.

Magic:PQ Support Team

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BongoTheGrey

This soft lock is happening in 2 different scenarios. Khalni Garden + Yavimaya Cradle of Growth at the same time on the board soft locks the game if you play that combo with any green Planeswalker.

Then, if you take Yavimaya Cradle of Growth out and just play Khalni Garden it will work perfectly fine except if you play Khalni Garden with Nissa Vital Energy. Khalni Garden + Nissa Vital Energy soft locks the game instantly as reported here: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/86466/nissa-vital-energy-khalni-garden#latest

I'm guessing that this happens because both Yavimaya and Nissa have an ability which says that when a seed gem is destroyed you immediately seed another gem. Since Khalni Garden creates an Elemental when a seed gem is destroyed but the game is also trying to create another seed gem at the same time it seems like the game just don't knows what to do first and the game soft locks.

Julie71

?? maybe related?? @Oktagon_Support
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/86566/khalni-garden-triggers-on-opponents-turn#latest

Julie71

@Oktagon_Support
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/86466/nissa-vital-energy-khalni-garden-investigating#latest

Anarchangel

A thought:
Both Nissa and Yavimaya are doing two things in response to Seed destruction, not just one.
So if you look for a problem with seeding in response you might find nothing, because it's the seeding plus another seeding, or the seeding plus draw

The reason I say this is a fellow coalition member made a screenshot of the crash, and the last thing on it is Yavimaya drawing a card.

Bil

Any news about this @Oktagon_Support ?

BongoTheGrey

I want to add a video as more evidence on this subject. It happened to me last weekend while playing Rise of Adventure's bottom node. Greg was using PMA Nissa and had Khalni Garden and Yavimaya on the board. Since I had Animations off my game didn't sort-locked but I had to play like 7 or 8 turns with the elemental card frozen on the bottom right corner of the board as you can see on this video:

https://imgur.com/jEZw7On

Julie71

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/86824/khalni-garden-freezing-games-investigating#latest

Julie71

https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/86466/nissa-vital-energy-khalni-garden-investigating#latest