**** Doc Ock (No Way Home) ****
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This character sounds great. Black might be a tad too high cost, BUT they do have AP generation and board swapping in the other 2 powers. So it might not matter anyway.
Excited to see how they play with ShangChi.
If it IS Doc Ock (based on the quote and the <tiles> being tentacles, the team name would be.
Ten Tickles.
Ten because shangchi and his 10 combo points. Tickles because of the pun.7 -
If you have to keep making characters to counter 1 character, then maybe, just maybe, that one character is too strong....2
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DyingLegend said:If you have to keep making characters to counter 1 character, then maybe, just maybe, that one character is too strong....Or maybe that game mechanic is just inherently strong in a game of this type.Or maybe that character has the benefit of having been released first and thus has both familiarity and the extra levels on their side.Or maybe you're assuming facts not in evidence.7
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Borstock said:DyingLegend said:If you have to keep making characters to counter 1 character, then maybe, just maybe, that one character is too strong....Or maybe that game mechanic is just inherently strong in a game of this type.Or maybe that character has the benefit of having been released first and thus has both familiarity and the extra levels on their side.Or maybe you're assuming facts not in evidence.0
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bbigler said:Borstock said:DyingLegend said:If you have to keep making characters to counter 1 character, then maybe, just maybe, that one character is too strong....Or maybe that game mechanic is just inherently strong in a game of this type.Or maybe that character has the benefit of having been released first and thus has both familiarity and the extra levels on their side.Or maybe you're assuming facts not in evidence.
I don't think Polaris needs a nerf. BRB being a great battery with her is what needs the nerf.
@bad
Tickles is ironic, because he hits harder than even colossus once he gets enough combo points2 -
Who the hell struggles against BRB and Polaris anymore? I adore those easy 50 point plus sim wins over and over. It’s an instant hit for me. It’s incredibly rare that team gets enough blue to stun or throw out brb blue. I smash that team no matter how big with okoye and thor with morbious let alone needing more counters! BRB being a battery is no fear. All I do is match one special tile and then keep on matching blue.6
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I have been targeting Polaris teams almost exclusively for about 6 months now. I maintain a character like her (with Grocket) is necessary for 4* speed play in PvE, and to punch up to SCL10 for non-5* rosters. Besides, the best nerf to iHulk where he is still relevant to your roster but not dominating PvP. That was done through Wanda, Electro, and weekly boosts.2
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You don't need Polaris to punch up scl 10 pves. I do agree that Polaris speed up scl pves: 25 minutes for scl 9 and 20 minutes for scl 8.
BRB/Polaris is almost a relic now. Only players with weak roster will have trouble handling them. In 5* land, most players wil handle them easily. Morbius, Mantis and many more counters are there for them.3 -
I'm not sure it's even about Polaris anymore, if it indeed ever was. They seem to have made the decision to have the 4* meta be a special tile meta.
Even if something changes with Polaris in the future, special tile strategies are going to continue to be really popular at the 4* tier because there's so much support for them.0 -
For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .1
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TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .
Maybe the game needs 4s that are immune to stun1 -
Srheer0 said:TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .
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Srheer0 said:TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .
Maybe the game needs 4s that are immune to stun
Hydra Stomper?
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There are counters to Polaris all the way from 3* land onwards. What outcome do players want to see? Retaliation from Polaris team fall from 90% of the time to 10% of the time, like what Wanda/Colossus did to iHulkoye?1
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TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .0
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DAZ0273 said:Srheer0 said:TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .
Maybe the game needs 4s that are immune to stun
Hydra Stomper?
Requires peggy on the team right? @DAZ0273
It's a worse version of Apoc's immunity and about on par with C5clops' stun immunity.
I had completely forgotten about stomper being immune to stun lol.0 -
Srheer0 said:DAZ0273 said:Srheer0 said:TheEyeDoctorsWife said:For those not in 5* I could see it as a huge problem . Most of those posting though have whale rosters and Polaris always goes down in 2 moves . As does every other 4*. A 5* against Polaris is like a high school bully against a 4th grader . If they ever made a PVP with no 5* allowed she’d be in every battle though .
Maybe the game needs 4s that are immune to stun
Hydra Stomper?
Requires peggy on the team right? @DAZ0273
It's a worse version of Apoc's immunity and about on par with C5clops' stun immunity.
I had completely forgotten about stomper being immune to stun lol.
Nope - he is stun immune but if Peggy is on the team so is she.
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Shouldn't the number of <TILETYPE> tiles be limited to 4?0
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I don't know understand all the ire against Polaris. Yes, the character is great and versatile, which is probably why she is overused. She works with Carnage, Medusa, Juggernaut, Beta Ray Bill...maybe others I don't even know about.
I do think she could use a little rework, maybe separating the Stun and tile creation of her blue into another color (so her blue would only stun for 7 blue and another color, such as green, would create strike tiles but not stun)
But I've been defeating any Polaris team with America Chavez + Karnak for ages (except for Polaris+Grocket, which is a job for Sabertooth).
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