Week 11 Boost (Ghost Rider, Jessica Jones, Scarlet Witch, Yellowjacket)

HoundofShadow
HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
For those of you who have not jumped into pvp yet, be prepared to meet a lot of SW/JJ.
You will see a sprinkle of Yellowjacket here and there. I think quite a number of players skipped him. As for Ghost Rider, he's not as common as YJ. 

PvP matches will take slightly more time than usual due to SW's damage reduction.  When playing against SW/JJ, your SW will be really helpful if JJ happens to match your trap tiles that they gave you because you would have reduced her trap damage by 80% by then. 

Lastly, be prepared to use a lot of healthpacks. I used 27 in the current PvPs. 
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2021
    Yeah been running Scarlet Witch and JJ all day. It's all fun and games until you mirror them and then it's just obnoxious.

    I'm not scared of Ghost Rider enough to skip him and he hasn't done anything at all thus far, but im very wary of Yellow Jacket. Neither Wanda nor Jessica have AOEs.
  • Ares76
    Ares76 Posts: 227 Tile Toppler
    I like boosted Yellowjacket very much. I even use him during my shield hops. When you cast his black power and after that his green he hits like a truck. On top of that he has true heal. And if you are fighting against him and don't kill him first he could go invisible with his blue power and stay invisible forever. It's a bit surprising to me that he's such good when god-boosted. Remembers me of Killmonger who was underestimated before he was god-boosted a few weeks ago. 
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2021
    SW/YJ could be a great team. Unfortunately, SW will tank blue/green over YJ, unless you have him levelled pretty high enough to tank those colours. That's probably why JJ/YJ is more common than SW/JJ, and that team has more colours covered. YJ is indeed a pest if you don't have AoE or certain random stun/attack.

    I climbed my way to 1200 skipping SW/JJ after losing one battle to them. For this boost week, they are really great. You have to worry about those trap tiles and not creating cascades, else SW's repeater will return those damage many times in kind. The highest repeater damage that I've taken from SW as of now is around 35k. 

    Unfortunately, Ghostrider has been the weakest link in this boost week and in his previous boost week. This guy just doesn't have the opportunity to shine. If only his Damnation is similar to Ghostpool's or 4* GR's black power, he should be able to one shot Wanda. Even turning his black ability to something similar to Bishop's red power isn't that shabby. 

    Again, good luck to those without SW. 
  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 1,455 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ares76 said:
    I like boosted Yellowjacket very much. I even use him during my shield hops. When you cast his black power and after that his green he hits like a truck. On top of that he has true heal. And if you are fighting against him and don't kill him first he could go invisible with his blue power and stay invisible forever. It's a bit surprising to me that he's such good when god-boosted. Remembers me of Killmonger who was underestimated before he was god-boosted a few weeks ago. 
    I feel like Yellowjacket was overlooked because when he released, Hulkoye still reigned. Scarlet Witch and Yellowjacket sound like a fine team. Probably not meta, but who do you target first?
  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ridiculously obnoxious team. RNG did disgusting things to me this PvP. On a positive note, I didn't notice a ton of activity, probably because no one wants to hit those teams. So, I was able to stay out for a while without seeing the -317 point dip that seems to come out of nowhere thanks to how long it takes this game to process attacks. 
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Ghost Rider won’t shine against 5Witch. He may not shine anytime, but he plays ok with Jj actually. They compete for red and black, but Hell Ride makes it so that JJ’s traps really just land on blue so they can be easier to find.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    The other benefit of Ghost Rider is that he has a stun. While it's only a 1-turn stun, but it can be a precious tool against SW, where you can start unloading everything on her without increasing her charges. I still think him having Penance Stare/Overclocked like ability will increase his fear factor somewhat.
  • revskip
    revskip Posts: 1,010 Chairperson of the Boards
    This is my first week in 5* land, so far seeing Switch & JJ more than anyone with Switch & Colossus 2nd.  

    I only have three 5* champed and all are in the 453-455 range pre-boost (Switch, Knull, Colossus).  I see a fair amount of Polaris/BRB on the easy end and JJ/YJ with Switch on the difficult end.  I've been targeting YJ first when he is paired with Switch even though it means more healthpacks because if he goes invisible it seems to be annoying and time consuming to set him out of it even though Switch does way more passive damage.  
  • Sekilicious
    Sekilicious Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2021
    In 4* play I have not seen much of JJ, mostly SW and YJ. Sometime YJ has at least one blue cover even, but often not. Usually SW has at least one green one. I imagine I don’t see many JJ because she is an older character and people like to pull from LL. So many TLA.
  • shardwick
    shardwick Posts: 2,121 Chairperson of the Boards
    SW/YJ could be a great team. Unfortunately, SW will tank blue/green over YJ, unless you have him levelled pretty high enough to tank those colours. That's probably why JJ/YJ is more common than SW/JJ, and that team has more colours covered. YJ is indeed a pest if you don't have AoE or certain random stun/attack.

    I climbed my way to 1200 skipping SW/JJ after losing one battle to them. For this boost week, they are really great. You have to worry about those trap tiles and not creating cascades, else SW's repeater will return those damage many times in kind. The highest repeater damage that I've taken from SW as of now is around 35k. 

    Unfortunately, Ghostrider has been the weakest link in this boost week and in his previous boost week. This guy just doesn't have the opportunity to shine. If only his Damnation is similar to Ghostpool's or 4* GR's black power, he should be able to one shot Wanda. Even turning his black ability to something similar to Bishop's red power isn't that shabby. 

    Again, good luck to those without SW. 
    Man I just murdered a bunch of people in my climb today with Switch and YJ. It was glorious. 

    Have Switch make blacks with her purple.
    Energize YJ's black.
    Go invisible with blue when a decent amount of blacks are on the board, or if enemy Switch is almost dead then you can hit her with his green, and especially hit her with green if you're in a position to match away her repeater right after.

    Easy peasy. 
  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,828 Chairperson of the Boards
    I ran Scarlet Witch and Jessica the whole way (Jessica is lvl500 so it was a pretty easy choice).  I mostly saw SW/JJ, with a bit of Yellowjacket mixed in. Ghost rider didn't show up anywhere.

    Yellowjacket was the big surprise to me.  I fought him a few times then mostly chose to fight 500+ SW/JJ over him.  SW isn't the *ideal* partner for him -- they share two colors and for some reason, she has ridiculous match damage. But she does make it harder to kill him first, which you really need to do. 

    If he's the last one alive on the enemy team it's a wipe 99% of the time.  How did everyone miss on this guy?

    The other thing is that all the fights are so SLOW.  SW was in 100% of enemy teams and I spent twice as much time as I normally do.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited August 2021
    [...].  How did everyone miss on this guy?
    [...]
    at release he didn't shake up the Hulkoye meta, and his Invis didn't protect him from it, so he was a "would have been good a year ago, probably pass now though" rating for most people. Now that 5Witch has pulled the rug out from under that team, he has some room to breathe, so fortune in some way continues to favor the "champ-em-all" crowd I guess.

    He was basically designed to be a last-man-standing character, I've used him on more than a few challenge nodes fully intending to have the team around him die and just enhanced-match-damage them to death, very similar to the scorched earth team of Vulture/iHulk but without the achilles heal of an unboosted 4* battery. I do think he's very comparable to Vulture actually as a really good standalone character, he just doesn't enhance anyone around him really.

    try running him with BrB; YJ tanks all 3 of his own colors, and you have a blue/green battery to overcome any board dryness with a couple big single hit attacks to pound through 5Witch’s repeater.
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Odin, like all jump-in-fronts, is very defensively obnoxious; I’m not at all confident he isn’t going to see regular play once the hive mind figures out a good pick-2 partner for him.
  • TheEyeDoctorsWife
    TheEyeDoctorsWife Posts: 829 Critical Contributor
    Odin, like all jump-in-fronts, is very defensively obnoxious; I’m not at all confident he isn’t going to see regular play once the hive mind figures out a good pick-2 partner for him.
    You realize you’re the only one of the  crowd not saying “I’m skipping Odie” . He won’t be meta but he can be situational I think . 
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    Odin is a great sandbag wall for this week's boost.  :D You can do your own things while stocking up on aps to deal with SW. His yellow passive ability ignores enemy AoEs though. If you don't have Wanda or Electro, your Odin is free meal for iHulkoye. 


  • fractalvisions
    fractalvisions Posts: 313 Mover and Shaker
     How did everyone miss on this guy?

    Clearly not everyone did. Maybe it was just the "nobody uses AP anymore" people that did. ;) Personally I opened my hoard for him (which, admittedly, wasn't that large since I'd only decided a few months earlier that building up a hoard would be a good idea). It seemed obvious that his invisibility power would be incredibly useful and annoying for others to face. I was very pleased with this choice when I finally completed Welcome to SHIELD for the first time.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards
    This was the first week I had 2 boosted 5's so that was good. I really do like Yellowjacket though - sadly I only got around 7 covers for him so he didn't get a huge amount of play but he is a lot of fun.
  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    IHulkoye was still the meta back then so his invisibility was useless and you can't stack his blue power multiple times to unleash huge damage. I guess that's why many people skipped him. I skipped pulling more covers for him because I don't have enough pulls to champ him. 

    If you don't like protect tiles meta (Polaris/BRB/Kitty), he's another option to deal with them. If I have Yellowjacket champed, I'd tag him along with two 1* in shield sim against Kitty/BRB/Polaris because once you go invisible, there's no way anyone of them can touch you. Not even Skuttlebutt can hit you as long as YJ is the only one standing. The only way you lose is all the blue/green/black matches are missing.

    Anyway, Odin makes JJ/SW more targetable. It's situation like this where you appreciate the presence of Odin.  B)
  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,454 Chairperson of the Boards
    Odin, like all jump-in-fronts, is very defensively obnoxious; I’m not at all confident he isn’t going to see regular play once the hive mind figures out a good pick-2 partner for him.
    You realize you’re the only one of the  crowd not saying “I’m skipping Odie” . He won’t be meta but he can be situational I think . 
    I'm just remembering how I felt at Bishop's launch, where I thought "all he does is jump out and get crushed, what is the point of this?" and then he had a stranglehold on PVP forever lol. Jump In Front can be really really annoying on defense even if he isn't doing much offensively on his own merits. I don't know if we already have his best partner, but he'll be a lynchpin for some kind of nonsense team before too long I suspect.
  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,275 Chairperson of the Boards
    Odin, like all jump-in-fronts, is very defensively obnoxious; I’m not at all confident he isn’t going to see regular play once the hive mind figures out a good pick-2 partner for him.
    You realize you’re the only one of the  crowd not saying “I’m skipping Odie” . He won’t be meta but he can be situational I think . 
    I'm just remembering how I felt at Bishop's launch, where I thought "all he does is jump out and get crushed, what is the point of this?" and then he had a stranglehold on PVP forever lol. Jump In Front can be really really annoying on defense even if he isn't doing much offensively on his own merits. I don't know if we already have his best partner, but he'll be a lynchpin for some kind of nonsense team before too long I suspect.

    The key factor there though was that Bishop could stun lock teams in no time at all, just from a 5* match damage.