and i quit.

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pasa_ wrote:

kensterr wrote:

List of games by Demiurge
http://www.demiurgestudios.com/games

Strange list, it has Mass effect. On steam the info is:

Title: Mass Effect
Genre: Action, RPG
Developer: BioWare
Publisher: Electronic Arts

no mention of demiurge.

If you fire up the old mass effect 1, you will actually see their logo during the opening credits I believe. Or was it at the end, I forgot, but they are there

_RiO_

finwe wrote:

They ported it to PC.

Oh. So these are the guys we have to thank for that game's screwed up PhysX implementation...

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100% support ppl who want to quit. So painful, tis aint your type of game anymore. Try out others game maybe.

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All I know is that at first I saw a few people on the forum saying they were leaving , and now in the past week it seems 3/4 of my Alliance I am in are off. Maybe I am in a tiny bubble, but it would seem the number of players jumping ship is increasing.

I guess there could be loads of new players coming in to compensate, maybe, but the guys leaving were spending bucks on this, so from my limited perspective it would seem the devs are making less money from players this week, than they were a week ago.

But if they were, they would realise they are screwing up and would change things. I would assume. So who knows.

Twysta

Yeah for some reason they almost don't seem to care that long time players are leaving... but I'm pretty sure they'd have to be aware that this is bad policy?!
Having any status of player leave in droves is always a bad sign... if I wasn't in the alliance I'm in I'd have probably left already. I know I'm just one of many, but the devs really need to sort out this mess.
There's loads of people here who liked/like this game but it's current state makes it almost logical to just stop playing, at least to the point where we devote most of our time and energy to it.

Most the time now I'd probably be rather playing something else and I suspect that if things stay the same (and/or a bunch of my alliance go on hiatus) then I probably will. I'm already spending a lot less time on it - and if money talks, I find it easy to talk myself out of everytime I think about buying any in game currency.

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ZenBrillig wrote:

gamar wrote:

At this point I can't even be mad at d3p anymore, it's like getting mad at a dog that's too dumb to get housetrained

I'm MAD at the people who keep spending money on this game

Which just proves how far you've gone off the rails.

You're saying that you hate this game so much that you want everyone at Demiurge to lose their jobs.

That's just insane.

Totally agree with gamar on this one, and i have to say that if ZenBrillig isnt an employee of Demiurge then he ought to be, at the very least he is clearly the ideal customer type for them.

Oh and to the OP - I loved this list, so very true.

I have spent much more on this game than I wold have spent on a stand alone title i=over the past 6 months, but no more. My money will be going elsewhere, i am not quitting, not yet anyway, cause hey maybe one day all the **** will change back to being good.

I will not be pushing hard for anything anymore, just gonna play it for fun. And as we all know this game is now only fun in about 20 mins sessions without dropping money for health packs or shields or something

Twysta

If ZenBrillig works at d3... we should all just quit now.

He's abrasive, combative and pretty condescending to most people on this forum I find.
Even people who are generally quite pleasant on the forum... at least in my opinion.
He doesn't seem to understand that the people on this forum want to play this game for the most part... but due to numerous mechanics can't or are being discouraged from doing so.
Granted people can and will complain about anything... but still.... that doesn't mean they're always wrong.

Just remember guys...

Don't feed the trolls.

kthxbi.

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Twysta wrote:

If ZenBrillig works at d3... we should all just quit now.

He's abrasive, combative and pretty condescending to most people on this forum I find.
Even people who are generally quite pleasant on the forum... at least in my opinion.
He doesn't seem to understand that the people on this forum want to play this game for the most part... but due to numerous mechanics can't or are being discouraged from doing so.
Granted people can and will complain about anything... but still.... that doesn't mean they're always wrong.

Just remember guys...

Don't feed the trolls.

Yep, fortunately the forum has this fine friends/foes feature I put to use a few weeks ago, now his posts are auto-hidden and only show in quotes. Just open the control panel and paste his name on the next-to-last tab.

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Twysta wrote:

If ZenBrillig works at d3... we should all just quit now.

You should all quit now, not because I work at D3, but because you've let a game take over your life to the point where you're actually wishing ill on the people who make it.

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ZenBrillig wrote:

Twysta wrote:

If ZenBrillig works at d3... we should all just quit now.

You should all quit now, not because I work at D3, but because you've let a game take over your life to the point where you're actually wishing ill on the people who make it.

Ironically, you're now advocating the same thing.

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Riggy wrote:

ZenBrillig wrote:

Twysta wrote:

If ZenBrillig works at d3... we should all just quit now.

You should all quit now, not because I work at D3, but because you've let a game take over your life to the point where you're actually wishing ill on the people who make it.

Ironically, you're now advocating the same thing.

Not at all, if they quit, it would probably do wonders for their mental health. At the minimum, I don't see how you can spin it as a negative.

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pasa_ wrote:

Yep, fortunately the forum has this fine friends/foes feature I put to use a few weeks ago, now his posts are auto-hidden and only show in quotes. Just open the control panel and paste his name on the next-to-last tab.

Alternatively just click his username on one of his posts and then click the "add foe" link.

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Twysta wrote:

Yeah for some reason they almost don't seem to care that long time players are leaving... but I'm pretty sure they'd have to be aware that this is bad policy?!

I thought they were actively trying to get them to leave. Presumably their metrics say that players make the bulk of their purchases in the early phase of their playing, and they've made the early period more appealing and the experience of older players unpleasant to get rid of deadbeats.

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This thread has quite a bit more up and down voting going on than most any other thread I've come across. I guess people are starting to use it more

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My favorite thing is when you have 800 points in an event and someone who has 60 points attacks you and you lose 45 and get bumped down 20 places. (yes that happened just now.lol)

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Impulse wrote:

Twysta wrote:

Yeah for some reason they almost don't seem to care that long time players are leaving... but I'm pretty sure they'd have to be aware that this is bad policy?!

I thought they were actively trying to get them to leave. Presumably their metrics say that players make the bulk of their purchases in the early phase of their playing, and they've made the early period more appealing and the experience of older players unpleasant to get rid of deadbeats.

If this is the case and they were smart, they would spend some time and figure out how to get long time players to spend money as well rather than alienating them. The vets are obviously addicted to the game, surely they can figure out how to monetize that without driving them off. They need to create things that long time players don't have and would want. How hard is that? Everyone wants the latest 'shiny'. Make some really nice stuff, price it within reach and watch the money flow in from both ends. The issue now is that things seem to stall at the 3*** level. Just keep creating higher star levels. This will take thought as you don't want a 10********** character wiping the floor in a bracket with 2**s, but I'm sure they can figure something out (i.e. events with different skill brackets). Essentially, they need to make it so that once you reach a certain level, you can 'start over' in the next tier of characters. You basically become a 1* all over again and keep feeding the addiction.

Knyghtmare

Regalis wrote:

pasa_ wrote:

The sooner the guy responsible for the direction is ejected the more chance the game gets on a good track.

Sadly, I completely agree with this.

There must be some serious propaganda being spread there. Why else would anyone believe it's "working as intended?" They probably made it clear that forumites have some kind of personality disorders and should not be taken seriously. They probably have a thermometer of revenue goals displayed so everyone can remember what the bottom line is - maybe even bonuses given out too so everyone keeps the blinders on so long as it's filling up. It's all speculation and half jokes of course, but there has to be some serious egos over there that is causing them from even saying we're sorry.

If I worked at a company who's CS treated it's customers the way they do, or simply brushed off issues and provided no recompense, I'd quit. I don't know what the exact relationship is between D3 and Demiurge, but one or both of these guys is starting have their reputation stained.

Years ago, I worked for a top software company. It is likely not an issue with everyone who is working on this believing the hype. What is more likely, is that you have some very strong personalities, or some people who have far too much power, and the designers and/or testers aren't empowered to go against them. This happens all the time. On a project I was working on (it was a well-known, spectacular bomb), no one I worked with could even tell you what it was supposed to do. Everybody knew it was going to fail at least a year before, but the people on top had too much power, and dissent was not approved of. I suspect something like that is going on at Demiurge. I would not hold IceX responsible for any of this. He has to tow the line in order to keep his job. Trust me, he likely knows the game is falling apart. He just doesn't have the power to do anything.

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And even if Ice agrees with many of the things we are saying he may not be able to comment publicly if those above him don't want him stirring up trouble.
The comment echoed from time to time about someone at d3 reading every word posted on the forum takes on a hauntingly Orwellian tone if you look at it in this context.

I certainly hope it is not that bad over there.