MPQ Sneak Peek: September 2019 Edition *Updated (9/24/19)

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  • blankcanvasblankcanvas Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    DAZ0273 said:
    What did Black Cat do to get ignored? You are literally throwing BC covers at us again in the Boss Event and yet she isn't even a ST character?
    Agree 1,000,000%

    I got lucky in vaults with BC and was super excited that I'd complete shield training for the 1st time ever. Instead got tinykitty by devs
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    Juggernaut and Ronin for shield training is a joke. Juggs has only been in tokens for a couple of weeks and Ronin a couple of months more. Real kick in the teeth dev team 😭
    Ronin was essential for ST in June already.  I think it's worth noting that as far as "being in tokens", it's almost inconsequential unless a player bonuses someone.  Your best shot at getting covers for someone new is playing hard around their release and the 3-ish PVEs they are rewarded after that before shuffling into Vintage Limbo.  I guess the best thing to do for many players is to save tokens during the season and bonus the new person as they enter tokens to get 10 covers - presuming the goal is to get the "free" cover from ST.

    Juggernaut is harder to stomach, of course. Sabretooth was already essential for Juggernaut, so he was out.  But......Black Cat hasn't been yet, and may indeed never be a Shield Training essential at this rate.  Or maybe they'll throw her in for the the next one.  I'm not sure a discernible pattern exists at this point.

    As far as Loki being early in the 5E cycle.....it could be a mistake.  The cycle will be almost a year this time.  And having so many 5's in Classics means you basically have that person or not by the time they show up, so maybe the order isn't all that important other than for players who might be saving CP to buy a cheap(er) cover.
  • HoundofShadowHoundofShadow Posts: 2,221 Chairperson of the Boards
    She got clawed out. Better luck next time.

    Given that Juggernaut was easily recognised as a top tier character, I doubt most will be not pleased with him being essential.
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think all players would have preferred getting Juggernaut covers from the alliance event, and having Black Cat be rewarded from the Hunt and therefore be an ST essential.

    But maybe the devs didn't want to give out oodles of free Juggernaut covers, since I would guess that far, far more players get 4* covers from alliance events than get them from placement in PVE.
  • shardwickshardwick Posts: 1,399 Chairperson of the Boards
    Damn. I was hoping for Black Cat and two classic 4s. My Juggs has 11 covers so he's ready to go but only have 7 covers for Ronin since I came back to the game recently so no 4* cover for me from Shield Training.
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    The She-Hulk PVP is up for preview and confirms:

    5 Professor's new character boost is already over.

    Under a standard 5 release, the CP store would have appeared, and closed a few days later (Monday) leading to the Latest update 2 weeks later.

    So if you were lucky enough to have the resources to chase the newest 5 in Latest (say, you hoarded for a good group like this one) you'd have about 1 1/2 weeks of new character boost to enjoy.

    Since the devs stuck to the HP store being his release, and based the 4 week new boost on that date, you got a half week this time if you waited for Latests.  As you should have....since Banner was in his release store.

    This only impacts a small group of players, but still.....seems kinda lame to me.  I realize it's a trade off vs him entering earlier and possibly being essential sooner.  But it could have been handled better, IMO.  Maybe next time.
  • ThaRoadWarriorThaRoadWarrior Posts: 3,398 Chairperson of the Boards
    I mean he was already essential immediately so would it be that outrageous to do it a second time?
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    I mean he was already essential immediately so would it be that outrageous to do it a second time?
    I guess not.

    I suppose I should just be glad he's already lost his boost and people won't be running a godmode 5 for a while again.
  • skittledaddyskittledaddy Posts: 400 Mover and Shaker
    shardwick said:
    Damn. I was hoping for Black Cat and two classic 4s. My Juggs has 11 covers so he's ready to go but only have 7 covers for Ronin since I came back to the game recently so no 4* cover for me from Shield Training.
    Similar spot for me.

    I'm not surprised by Juggs at all. Happy to say my Juggs already has 9 covers. I'll get a 10th from PVE.
    I keep, however, skipping over Ronin because between Sabretooth and now Juggs, there have been better new 4s to focus on. I really didn't expect Ronin in SHIELD Training again so soon.

    Too bad...
    Especially because IceX hinted that this new char is designed to "shake up" the current meta.
  • IceIXIceIX ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 3,378 Site Admin
    After discussing internally, looks like The Hunt day timing *wasn't* a typo after all!

    Just updated 'The Hunt' run timing from 4 days to 3 days and changed start date from 9/15 to 9/16. So originally there would have been a slight gap with a 3 day on 9/15 which is where I was confused. All set now!
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    IceIX said:
    After discussing internally, looks like The Hunt day timing *wasn't* a typo after all!

    Just updated 'The Hunt' run timing from 4 days to 3 days and changed start date from 9/15 to 9/16. So originally there would have been a slight gap with a 3 day on 9/15 which is where I was confused. All set now!
    Interesting.  Since the event starts 9/16, the allys who finish early (usually early Saturday) will have another full day of no pve except for Gwen Prix and DDQ.  Or hitting nodes for fun/iso. 

    Usually there’s an overlap with a pve starting the Sunday after the boss event, but I’ll take another day off if it means a 24 hour Florida node. 😉
  • shardwickshardwick Posts: 1,399 Chairperson of the Boards
    shardwick said:
    Damn. I was hoping for Black Cat and two classic 4s. My Juggs has 11 covers so he's ready to go but only have 7 covers for Ronin since I came back to the game recently so no 4* cover for me from Shield Training.
    Similar spot for me.

    I'm not surprised by Juggs at all. Happy to say my Juggs already has 9 covers. I'll get a 10th from PVE.
    I keep, however, skipping over Ronin because between Sabretooth and now Juggs, there have been better new 4s to focus on. I really didn't expect Ronin in SHIELD Training again so soon.

    Too bad...
    Especially because IceX hinted that this new char is designed to "shake up" the current meta.
    Yeah, when I retired, or took an extended break, I had a seven cover Bishop so when I came back I had to roster the 4s that I didn't have and then focus on Bishop. Then I was going to go to Ronin or Sabretooth but then Juggs came out. And since dilution is awful it's been a pain trying to get Ronin covered. Feel like the game has been taunting me lately by putting him in nearly every vault too.


    @IceIX I'm not really expecting you to answer this but I thought I'd ask anyway. Has there been any discussion about adding a new 4* character to the game that attacks enemy airborne characters or ones that have been sent airborne? I think it would add more strategy to the game for someone like Riri or Nova to knock someone airborne and then have the new character attack them or siphon health off of them while they're in the air.
  • blankcanvasblankcanvas Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    edited 14 September 2019, 09:42
    Excellent point @shardwick about the dilution problem. There's been utterly no logic from the dev team in how to combat it even though there was a relatively feasible solution with latest 12 4*s in place already. I acknowledge it didn't suit everyone but certainly would have made successfully covering Juggernaut, T4rch, Ronin, Th4nos, Sabretooth, Bishop, Magik et al somewhat easier. 

    My only wish for anniversary at the moment is a workable solution. I'd accept living with all the other games flaws if they could fix dilution. It's not as if a many excellent ideas haven't been generated by a number of forum contributors. Yet again completely illogical to not tap in to the expert knowledge on this forum...
  • shardwickshardwick Posts: 1,399 Chairperson of the Boards
    Excellent point @shardwick about the dilution problem. There's been utterly no logic from the dev team in how to combat it even though there was a relatively feasible solution with latest 12 4*s in place already. I acknowledge it didn't suit everyone but certainly would have made successfully covering Juggernaut, T4rch, Ronin, Th4nos, Sabretooth, Bishop, Magik et al somewhat easier. 

    My only wish for anniversary at the moment is a workable solution. I'd accept living with all the other games flaws if they could fix dilution. It's not as if a many excellent ideas haven't been generated by a number of forum contributors. Yet again completely illogical to not tap in to the expert knowledge on this forum...
    Yeah it's pretty bad. I've mentioned this is a few times so you may have seen me gripe but I had hoarded a ton of heroics and saved up 700 cp for when Juggs went into tokens thinking that I had a shot to get him covered and champed or close to it. Out of like 88 heroics I got one Juggs as a bonus hero and from pulling classics I didn't get a single Juggs or bonus hero from that. I actually got like three or four Spider Woman covers in that haul for some odd reason. Latest 12 wasn't perfect but at least I could get the latest ones covered a lot quicker. I'd like to see a modified latest 12 system like latest 8 plus 4 to 8 characters that each player can choose to focus on and then the rest essentially get vaulted by the player until they change out their characters.
  • The rockettThe rockett Posts: 1,876 Chairperson of the Boards
    So last season I gave the Dev team props for having the season end with a boss event.  

    Now this season we will have have the season end, a PVE end AND it is a new release at the same time. Why?  Why is this still a thing?   Why can’t this be avoided?  @IceIX @Brigby
  • BowgentleBowgentle Posts: 5,038 Chairperson of the Boards
    So last season I gave the Dev team props for having the season end with a boss event.  

    Now this season we will have have the season end, a PVE end AND it is a new release at the same time. Why?  Why is this still a thing?   Why can’t this be avoided?  @IceIX @Brigby
    Because they're probably scheduling stuff for anniversary.
    This is the one time of year where you have to give them a pass - you can't move anniversary.
  • bluewolfbluewolf Posts: 3,411 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 15 September 2019, 01:27
    The devs said that the new character release got pushed back a week due to finishing up work on Gwen Prix. Could also be why they ran EotS. (7 days are half the work for them, so running one means more time to focus on the new content.). Maybe they originally planned to run Basilica at the end of the season and switched it around.....

    However, it's also likely that are trying to make things sync up with Anniversary to some extent.

    That said, the concern of "PVE and PVP end at the same time" is really only a concern for the very best alliances who are trying to create the most optimal combination of scores through player shuffling to secure T1/2/10 placement.  Is it important to them?  Absolutely.  Do I think the devs put any thought into how their event schedule impacts how easy it is to maximize rewards for these top alliances?  No...
  • ammenellammenell Posts: 685 Critical Contributor
    side note:
    she hulks pve is frustrating as hell. 
    nothing new, nothing unexpected. 

  • HoundofShadowHoundofShadow Posts: 2,221 Chairperson of the Boards
    Red Hulk is awesome against her.

    Changing the board colour to other colours help too. 

    I did see a wall of R4G and Gamora in the PvP which was great because they are worth the most amount of point. 
  • shardwickshardwick Posts: 1,399 Chairperson of the Boards
    ammenell said:
    side note:
    she hulks pve is frustrating as hell. 
    nothing new, nothing unexpected. 

    You know what's fun? When you're using MEHulk and you finally get enough purple to gamma bomb them into another dimension but then she drains it all away on the very next turn.
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