Characters and Skills Compendium v2.24

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  • There were multiple changes to powers this morning... see the C.Storm discussions in the General forum. Can we get an official list of what changed for IceX?
  • rabscutle wrote:
    There were multiple changes to powers this morning... see the C.Storm discussions in the General forum. Can we get an official list of what changed for IceX?

    Yes, I noticed the heated discussions (at least 3 of them) about Storm Classic change. I will update the topic when IceIX posts patch notes.
    fatcatfan wrote:
    I think some of the power descriptions may need to be updated. For example, Grey Widow's Sniper Rifle now explicitly states that it does not generate AP.

    I will take closer look at all abilities when making update mentioned above. Thank you for pointing out icon_e_smile.gif
  • Would this be a good place to try collect info on which target lock boosts affect which characters? We could probably do another spreadsheet to collect the info from actual tests rather than assumptions based on Marvel canon.
  • Please update Moonstone's purple ability, Gravity Warp icon_e_smile.gif

    From the PvE event, at level 69 with maxed purple she does 885 damage
  • fatcatfan wrote:
    Would this be a good place to try collect info on which target lock boosts affect which characters? We could probably do another spreadsheet to collect the info from actual tests rather than assumptions based on Marvel canon.

    I don't think spreadsheet would be needed for that. Just forum topic should be enough as there is much less data to collect. Other option would be IceIX commenting on one of posts where people tried to guess that (like this one)
    Arclight wrote:
    Please update Moonstone's purple ability, Gravity Warp icon_e_smile.gif

    From the PvE event, at level 69 with maxed purple she does 885 damage

    Thanks for reminder. I waited for max level damage and forgot to update her and Storm in the end, cause I never got that damage.
  • Shikao wrote:
    Arclight wrote:
    Please update Moonstone's purple ability, Gravity Warp icon_e_smile.gif

    From the PvE event, at level 69 with maxed purple she does 885 damage

    Thanks for reminder. I waited for max level damage and forgot to update her and Storm in the end, cause I never got that damage.
    AP cost also changed. I wish it only costed 5 AP, but it costs 8 now icon_e_sad.gif

    I still kinda like the move. Kinda.
  • Nonce Equitaur 2Nonce Equitaur 2 Age Unconfirmed Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    Here's a table with all the characters at once, in case someone finds it useful.
                              Max Tile Damage          Power Cost
        Name         Max HP  Ye Re Bu Pu Gr Bk     Ye Re Bu Pu Gr Bk   Ideal build?
    Wolverine (X-For)  9328 |55·62·10· 9·70· 9| - |10·15|  ·  |15·  |  445
    Iron Man (Mod 40)  7250 |60·67·52·12·11·10| - | 6·13|20·  |  ·  |  454
    Ragnarok           7111 |10·51·10·11·51·10| - |  · 2|  ·  | 6·  |  55
    Invisible Woman    6996 |70·10·62· 9·55· 9| - |19·  |14·  |12·  |  535
    Magneto (Class)    5800 |52·60·67·10·11·12| - |  · 2| 5·10|  ·  |  535
    The Punisher       5800 |10·52·11·12·60·67| - |  · 8|  ·  | 8· 7|  535
    Spider-Man         5800 |67·12·52·60·11·10| - | 9·  | 2· *|  ·  |  355
    Doctor Doom        5440 | 9· 9·53·41·10·47| - |  ·  | 9·  |  ·12|  55
    Thor               5340 |45·50·10· 9·39·11| - |11· 6|  ·  |13·  |  553
    Black Widow (Grey) 5075 |11·12·60·67·10·52| - |  ·12|  ·11|15·  |  553
    Captain America    4450 |50·45·39· 9·10·11| - |19·11|12·  |  ·  |  355
    Moonstone          4450 | 9·45·11·50·10·39| - |  ·11|  · 5|  ·17|  553
    The Hood           4350 |67·12·60·11·10·52| - |14·  | *·  |  · 9|  553
    Loki (Dark Reign)  4148 |10· 9·11·57·44·51| - |  ·  |  · 5|  ·11|  55
    Spider-Man (Bag)   3560 |39·11·45·50·10· 9| - | 7·  | 9·13|  ·  |  535
    Magneto (Marvel)   3560 |11·39·50·45· 9·10| - |  · 8| 6·  | 9·  |  445
    Wolverine (X-Men)  3560 |39·45· 9·11·50·10| - | *·10|  ·  | 3·  |  535
    Juggernaut (Class) 3520 | 7·22· 6· 7·25· 9| - |  · 6|  ·  | 6·  |  55
    Black Widow (Orig) 3315 |10·11·45· 9·50·39| - |  ·  |11· 5|  · *|  355
    Daken              2920 | 8· 9· 9·32·41·37| - |  ·  |  · *|  · *|  55
    Iron Man (Mod 35)  2700 |27·31·24· 8· 7· 7| - | 8·10|19·  |  ·  |  355
    Storm (Classic)    2670 |39·11·45· 9·50·10| - | *·  |11·  |12·  |  535
    Hawkeye (Mod)      2670 |11·39·45·50· 9·10| - |  ·10|10· *|  ·  |  553
    Venom              2640 | 6· 7· 7·19·25·22| - |  ·  |  · 4|  ·12|  55
    Bullseye           2190 | 9· 8· 9·41·32·37| - |  ·  |  · *|  ·16|  55
    Storm (Modern)     1620 | 7·27· 7· 8·31·24| - |  · 5|  ·  |10· 9|  553
    Black Widow (Mod)  1540 |19· 7·22·25· 6· 7| - |  ·  | 9·10|  ·  |  55
    Yelena Belova      1540 | 6· 7·19·25· 7·22| - |  ·  |  ·13|  ·13|  55
    Hawkeye (Class)    1320 |19·22· 7·25· 6· 7| - | 7·  |  ·14|  ·  |  55
    
  • Here's a table with all the characters at once, in case someone finds it useful.
                              Max Tile Damage          Power Cost
        Name         Max HP  Ye Re Bu Pu Gr Bk     Ye Re Bu Pu Gr Bk   Ideal build?
    Wolverine (X-For)  9328 |55·62·10· 9·70· 9| - |10·15|  ·  |15·  |  445
    Iron Man (Mod 40)  7250 |60·67·52·12·11·10| - | 6·13|20·  |  ·  |  454
    Ragnarok           7111 |10·51·10·11·51·10| - |  · 2|  ·  | 6·  |  55
    Invisible Woman    6996 |70·10·62· 9·55· 9| - |19·  |14·  |12·  |  535
    Magneto (Class)    5800 |52·60·67·10·11·12| - |  · 2| 5·10|  ·  |  535
    The Punisher       5800 |10·52·11·12·60·67| - |  · 8|  ·  | 8· 7|  535
    Spider-Man         5800 |67·12·52·60·11·10| - | 9·  | 2· *|  ·  |  355
    Doctor Doom        5440 | 9· 9·53·41·10·47| - |  ·  | 9·  |  ·12|  55
    Thor               5340 |45·50·10· 9·39·11| - |11· 6|  ·  |13·  |  553
    Black Widow (Grey) 5075 |11·12·60·67·10·52| - |  ·12|  ·11|15·  |  553
    Captain America    4450 |50·45·39· 9·10·11| - |19·11|12·  |  ·  |  355
    Moonstone          4450 | 9·45·11·50·10·39| - |  ·11|  · 5|  ·17|  553
    The Hood           4350 |67·12·60·11·10·52| - |14·  | *·  |  · 9|  553
    Loki (Dark Reign)  4148 |10· 9·11·57·44·51| - |  ·  |  · 5|  ·11|  55
    Spider-Man (Bag)   3560 |39·11·45·50·10· 9| - | 7·  | 9·13|  ·  |  535
    Magneto (Marvel)   3560 |11·39·50·45· 9·10| - |  · 8| 6·  | 9·  |  445
    Wolverine (X-Men)  3560 |39·45· 9·11·50·10| - | *·10|  ·  | 3·  |  535
    Juggernaut (Class) 3520 | 7·22· 6· 7·25· 9| - |  · 6|  ·  | 6·  |  55
    Black Widow (Orig) 3315 |10·11·45· 9·50·39| - |  ·  |11· 5|  · *|  355
    Daken              2920 | 8· 9· 9·32·41·37| - |  ·  |  · *|  · *|  55
    Iron Man (Mod 35)  2700 |27·31·24· 8· 7· 7| - | 8·10|19·  |  ·  |  355
    Storm (Classic)    2670 |39·11·45· 9·50·10| - | *·  |11·  |12·  |  535
    Hawkeye (Mod)      2670 |11·39·45·50· 9·10| - |  ·10|10· *|  ·  |  553
    Venom              2640 | 6· 7· 7·19·25·22| - |  ·  |  · 4|  ·12|  55
    Bullseye           2190 | 9· 8· 9·41·32·37| - |  ·  |  · *|  ·16|  55
    Storm (Modern)     1620 | 7·27· 7· 8·31·24| - |  · 5|  ·  |10· 9|  553
    Black Widow (Mod)  1540 |19· 7·22·25· 6· 7| - |  ·  | 9·10|  ·  |  55
    Yelena Belova      1540 | 6· 7·19·25· 7·22| - |  ·  |  ·13|  ·13|  55
    Hawkeye (Class)    1320 |19·22· 7·25· 6· 7| - | 7·  |  ·14|  ·  |  55
    

    Very handy! I will add it during overhaul of Compendium that I plan to do this weekend, though I will remove last column, it's too subjective.
  • Shikao wrote:
    Very handy! I will add it during overhaul of Compendium that I plan to do this weekend, though I will remove last column, it's too subjective.

    Not to mention too ambiguous since it's not clear what value goes to which color (and it's not consistent with either the same color first or with the order the colors are on the cards).

    But if you're bored/ambitious then listing "Recommended" builds might be good; any that are really contentious (e.g. -- C Storm, 2* Wolverine) can be omitted with a note.
  • I'm sad we can't get sortable columns. Maybe we can do top3 lists? For example...

    Best green:
    1. Punisher
    2. Rags
    3. Wolvie/c.Storm

    (Yes, I'm ignoring useless 4-stars)

    Also, I think crit multiplier is an important enough stat to be included.
  • I'm sad we can't get sortable columns. Maybe we can do top3 lists? For example...

    Best green:
    1. Punisher
    2. Rags
    3. Wolvie/c.Storm

    (Yes, I'm ignoring useless 4-stars)

    I will consider this... though I need to it fast as it would have quite impact on what I have in plan... icon_razz.gif
    Also, I think crit multiplier is an important enough stat to be included.

    Part of the incoming overhaul, env tiles will be added as well.
  • Shikao,

    I can't find the specific thread for the ISO collection you're doing, but you just posted here, so close enough. How come your ISO calculator doesn't work for 2* characters? It works for figuring out how much I can level 1* and 3* characters. Not sure what's going on here and the cell that now reads #NAME? has a formula in it that says =C15-2. This seems weird, but somehow C15-2 works some times.

    Edit: Found the problem. Cell C15 has the following formula in it.
    =if(B13=1;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!C:C,1),IF(B13=2;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables1!E:E,1), IF(B13=3;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!G:G,1),MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!I:I,1))))

    It should be
    =if(B13=1;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!C:C,1),IF(B13=2;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!E:E,1), IF(B13=3;MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!G:G,1),MATCH(C14+B15;Tables!I:I,1))))

    Note the "Tables1" in the first under the IF B13=2. There shouldn't be a 1 there. I fixed it in my local and now it's all good.
  • NFHQ43 wrote:
    Shikao,

    I can't find the specific thread for the ISO collection you're doing, but you just posted here, so close enough. How come your ISO calculator doesn't work for 2* characters? It works for figuring out how much I can level 1* and 3* characters. Not sure what's going on here and the cell that now reads #NAME? has a formula in it that says =C15-2. This seems weird, but somehow C15-2 works some times.

    *snip*

    Note the "Tables1" in the first under the IF B13=2. There shouldn't be a 1 there. I fixed it in my local and now it's all good.

    Well, technically there wasn't any thread for ISO collection. Although this one was the inspiration and I posted any progress in there, but it doesn't really matters icon_razz.gif
    Anyway, thank you very much for pointing that out! Fixed. And I am happy that someone finds my works useful icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • KillStormFirstKillStormFirst Posts: 138 Tile Toppler
    Compendium need Hulk or Hulk smash
  • Compendium need Hulk or Hulk smash

    Sure. Let us know when you have him max level and get back to Shikao.
  • IceIX: post Hulk data please icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • The topic for indestructible hulk has max level.info on the last page.
  • Not sure if this has already been requested/suggested. But would it be possible to list with each character the boosts that affect them? I've been playing since launch and I still am not sure about half of them... icon_redface.gificon_redface.gif
  • Nonce Equitaur 2Nonce Equitaur 2 Age Unconfirmed Posts: 2,269 Chairperson of the Boards
    I think this puts them all in one block. They are sorted by relative popularity according to the Fun with Rankings thread.
    Max tile damage, Power cost, Hit points, Level, Name.

    10/51/10/11/51/11 - __/_2/__/__/_6/__ - 7111 - 3 -- Ragnarok (Dark Avengers Thor)
    67/12/52/60/11/10 - _9/__/_2/PA/__/__ - 5800 - 3 -- Spider-Man (Classic)
    52/60/67/10/11/12 - __/_2/_5/10/__/__ - 5800 - 3 -- Magneto (Classic)
    45/50/10/09/39/11 - 11/_6/__/__/13/__ - 5340 - 2 -- Thor (Marvel NOW!)
    11/12/60/67/10/52 - __/12/__/11/15/__ - 5075 - 3 -- Black Widow (Grey Suit)
    11/60/12/10/67/52 - __/14/__/__/10/PA - 9788 - 3 -- Indestructible Hulk
    39/11/45/09/50/10 - PA/__/11/__/12/__ - 2670 - 2 -- Storm (Classic)
    60/67/52/12/11/10 - 14/13/20/__/__/__ - 7250 - 3 -- Iron Man (Model 40)
    39/45/09/11/50/10 - PA/10/__/__/_3/__ - 3560 - 2 -- Wolverine (Astonishing X-Men)
    09/09/53/41/10/47 - __/__/_9/__/__/12 - 5440 - 3 -- Doctor Doom (Classic)
    10/52/11/12/60/67 - __/_8/__/__/_8/_7 - 5800 - 3 -- The Punisher (Dark Reign)
    67/12/60/11/10/52 - 14/__/PA/__/__/_9 - 4350 - 3 -- The Hood (Classic)
    10/11/45/50/09/39 - __/__/11/_8/__/PA - 3315 - 2 -- Black Widow (Original)
    08/09/09/32/41/37 - __/__/__/PA/__/PA - 2920 - 2 -- Daken (Dark Avengers Wolverine)
    11/39/50/45/09/10 - __/_8/_6/__/_9/__ - 3560 - 2 -- Magneto (Marvel NOW!)
    07/27/07/08/31/24 - __/_5/__/__/10/_9 - 1620 - 1 -- Storm (Modern)
    19/07/22/25/06/07 - __/__/_9/10/__/__ - 1540 - 1 -- Black Widow (Modern)
    06/07/07/19/25/22 - __/__/__/_7/__/12 - 2640 - 1 -- Venom (Dark Avengers Spider-Man)
    11/39/45/50/09/10 - __/10/10/PA/__/__ - 2670 - 2 -- Hawkeye (Modern)
    27/31/24/08/07/07 - _8/10/19/__/__/__ - 2700 - 1 -- Iron Man (Model 35)
    50/45/39/09/10/11 - 19/11/12/__/__/__ - 4450 - 3 -- Captain America (Modern)
    55/62/10/09/70/09 - 10/15/__/__/15/__ - 9328 - 4 -- Wolverine (X-Force)
    10/09/11/57/44/51 - __/__/__/_5/__/11 - 4148 - 3 -- Loki (Dark Reign)
    07/22/06/07/25/09 - __/_6/__/__/_6/__ - 3520 - 1 -- Juggernaut (Classic)
    09/08/09/41/32/37 - __/__/__/PA/__/16 - 2190 - 2 -- Bullseye (Dark Avengers Hawkeye)
    09/45/11/50/10/39 - __/11/__/_5/__/17 - 4450 - 2 -- Moonstone (Dark Avengers Ms. Marvel)
    70/10/62/09/55/09 - 19/__/14/__/12/__ - 6996 - 4 -- Invisible Woman (Classic)
    19/22/07/25/06/07 - _7/__/__/14/__/__ - 1320 - 1 -- Hawkeye (Classic)
    39/11/45/50/10/09 - _7/__/_9/13/__/__ - 3560 - 2 -- Spider-Man (Bag-Man)
    06/07/19/25/07/22 - __/__/__/20/__/13 - 1540 - 1 -- Yelena Belova (Dark Avengers Widow)
  • Shikao wrote:
    [*]3 Star Rarity (Rare)
    • [goto=blackwidow3]Black Widow[/goto] (Grey Suit)
    • [goto=doctordoom3]Doctor Doom[/goto] (Classic)
    • [goto=ironman3]Iron Man[/goto] (Model 40)
    • [goto=loki3]Loki[/goto] (Dark Reign)
    • [goto=magneto3]Magneto[/goto] (Classic)
    • [goto=ragnarok3]Ragnarok[/goto] (Dark Avengers Thor)
    • [goto=spiderman3]Spider-Man[/goto] (Classic)
    • [goto=thehood3]The Hood[/goto] (Classic)
    • [goto=thepunisher3]The Punisher[/goto] (Dark Reign)

    [anchor=charstar]Characters by stars[/anchor]
    • Total characters - 29 (100%)
    • 3 star - 9 (31%)
    Mr. Hulk 3 star is number 10 icon_e_wink.gif
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