Legendary Limited Stores - An Ongoing Discussion
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Would be nice to hit this store to finish Strange, since they dont seem to want to give him a feed. However, I cant possibly spend CP on a 2/5/5 Strange where theres a damn good chance I wont get a blue.1
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Richyyy said:I'm amazed that anyone who decided to download the game and try it for the first time in the last couple of years has chosen to stick with it and play consistently. The basic Puzzle Quest gameplay might still be fun, but the character base is so vast and your chances of covering/champing individual meaningful ones are so long that I'd be put off immediately. And unless you're going to spend a fortune, the prospects of joining the 5* tier must seem a gazillion miles away.
It's not until you start the 4* jump that you notice dilution issues and so many players who play less than 18 months may never encounter it.
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I'm glad to see these 5s stores pop up often these days. I just wish there was a way to exchange LL tokens for CPS. A lot of players stash is split somewhat evenly between LL tokens and CPs which makes it tough to complete some classic 5s even with the new stores.
Once you blow your CPs on the 5s store, you're not likely going to max cover any 5 from LL tokens left over. You very well won't max cover any 5s from the random store either unless you had a bunch of covers for those chracaters anyways.
These 5s stores certainly aren't perfect for 4 transitioners, but better then keeping every classic 5 super diluted in the classic store, or charging and arm and a leg in CPs for one of their covers to go on sale.0 -
tonypq said:I'm glad to see these 5s stores pop up often these days. I just wish there was a way to exchange LL tokens for CPS. A lot of players stash is split somewhat evenly between LL tokens and CPs which makes it tough to complete some classic 5s even with the new stores.
Once you blow your CPs on the 5s store, you're not likely going to max cover any 5 from LL tokens left over. You very well won't max cover any 5s from the random store either unless you had a bunch of covers for those chracaters anyways.
These 5s stores certainly aren't perfect for 4 transitioners, but better then keeping every classic 5 super diluted in the classic store, or charging and arm and a leg in CPs for one of their covers to go on sale.
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I love the idea that they’re sitting on excess inventory so they’re having a sale. I picture Brigby sitting on top of a pile of comics so high he can’t reach the keyboard any more.2
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I don't mean to spam, but this does hold relevance, so I'm putting it in both places:
For my own personal pulls I've been keeping track of legendary stores since the Fan Favourites Store during the Anniversary last October. This was the point I had most of the 3*s rostered and was earning enough HP that I could finally start pulling... at least occasionally.
I've put these stores in a handy little table (which i will attempt to insert), to help us with our speculations...Date
Store
Featured
Reason
Oct. 04
Fan Faves
Jessica Jones, OML, Dr. Strange
Anniversary celebrations
Oct. 18
Cable
Cable, Archangel, Gambit
Release store
Dec. 13
Kingpin
Kingpin, Thanos, Doc. Ock
Release store
Dec. 21
Family Legends
Thor, OML, Black Bolt
Winter Holidays celebrations
Jan. 16
Doom
GED, Dr, Strange, Banner
Release store
Jan. 21
Masked Vengeance
Green Goblin, Ghost Rider, SMBB
Red Goblin costume
Feb. 19
Fave Legends
Kitty, Thor, Okoye
Wakanda Celebrations
Feb. 28
Captain Marvel
Cap. Marvel, Silver Surfer, Star Lord
Release store
Mar. 11
Legendary Leaders
Cap. Marvel, Iron Man, 1st Cap. Am
CM costume, CM celebrations
Mar. 20
Storied Legends
Dr. Strange, OML, Thanos
Just because?
Sorry about the format, this is the best i can do...
Between Cable and Kingpin there was a small Halloween celebration which had vaults instead, and on Nov. 26 costumes were introduced, which came with all sorts of spending opportunities, so no extra Legendary stores then.
Masked Vengeance and Legendary Leaders stores were offered alongside with a pricey 5* costume bundle, that gave tokens to these stores instead of LLs.
Most of the extra stores were a part of some kind of celebrations, except this last one...?
To see who has been featured, and how often, I went back to have a look at the stores before the anniversary, and they all seem to just be the release stores (unless I missed something)...Date
Store
Featured
Sept. 20
Kitty
Kitty, Jean Gray, OML
Aug. 09
Loki
Loki, Thor, Black Bolt
Jun. 28
Wasp
Wasp, Okoye, Jessica Jones
May 17
Okoye
Okoye, Black Panther, SMPP
Apr. 19
Cap. Am (IW)
Cap. Am (IW), Hawkeye, Widow
Mar. 07
Jessica Jones
JJ, Black Panther, Green Goblin
I stopped at JJ, because it is since her cover that I've had every latest (even if just one cover for the 5e), and by a happy coincidence her release rounds this all out to roughly 1 year.
So in this 1 year the only 5* who hasn't been in any of these stores, not once, is Daredevil.
Everyone else has been featured at least once, if nothing else, in their own release stores (in the case of the newer characters).
OML of course is the record holder, with 4 store appearances.
So if I were to start speculating, I'd say chances are highest for Hawkeye, Widow (with Endgame looming, chances are really high for them!), SMPP and of course Daredevil to come up soon, either in the release store of the new 5* or any stores offered until then.
Thoughts? Speculations?
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I generally only see positives out of giving the player more choices. The difficult part is of course that you can only use CP and you can't use latest legend tokens etc. In my case I have 120+ LL tokens and only about 1300 CP saved up, so why would I want to split my draws on these stores where I can only use CP. I think for players not looking at hoarding though, or those who do buy clubs (CP) then this can make sense as a way to combat dilution in the 5* tier.2
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Nick441234 said:Would be nice to hit this store to finish Strange, since they dont seem to want to give him a feed. However, I cant possibly spend CP on a 2/5/5 Strange where theres a damn good chance I wont get a blue.0
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Warbringa said:I generally only see positives out of giving the player more choices. The difficult part is of course that you can only use CP and you can't use latest legend tokens etc. In my case I have 120+ LL tokens and only about 1300 CP saved up, so why would I want to split my draws on these stores where I can only use CP. I think for players not looking at hoarding though, or those who do buy clubs (CP) then this can make sense as a way to combat dilution in the 5* tier.5
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CT1888 said:Warbringa said:I generally only see positives out of giving the player more choices. The difficult part is of course that you can only use CP and you can't use latest legend tokens etc. In my case I have 120+ LL tokens and only about 1300 CP saved up, so why would I want to split my draws on these stores where I can only use CP. I think for players not looking at hoarding though, or those who do buy clubs (CP) then this can make sense as a way to combat dilution in the 5* tier.
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Warbringa said:Nick441234 said:Would be nice to hit this store to finish Strange, since they dont seem to want to give him a feed. However, I cant possibly spend CP on a 2/5/5 Strange where theres a damn good chance I wont get a blue.1
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So here we are now, with War of the Realms store, and Daredevil... Before that was BW and BP in Helas store... Only Hawkeye and SMPP left. Im sure Endgame will bring them around too...
(Just to add to the table above)2 -
These stores are ok for players who've played religiously forever and just need a cover or two to finish a 5, or few newer players who just need one cover for the PVE node.
For anyone else who actively wants to cover or chase one of these 5s, then you really do need a big stash of CPs built up, especially since LL tokens cannot be converted into CPs. Seems like for many these stores will lead to hoarding even more.
Unfortunately the way the cover system is designed along with rate we acquire LL/CPs , makes things very aggravating for many players. Especially those who want to key in on a specific 5, shouldn't require building a hoard for a year or longer.
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They should get rid of LT for good; make all LT prizes 25 CP, convert all our LT to CP and allow us to just spend in different places. This would help more people advance by concentrating pulls while offering us the same reward values. It makes too much sense to help combat dilution, because “splitting pulls” between CP/LT dilutes just as much as the number of characters.
I thought about posting this in suggestions, but it’d just rot there. Plus it will never happen. No way they drop a premium currency.7 -
Daredevil217 said:They should get rid of LT for good; make all LT prizes 25 CP, convert all our LT to CP and allow us to just spend in different places. This would help more people advance by concentrating pulls while offering us the same reward values. It makes too much sense to help combat dilution, because “splitting pulls” between CP/LT dilutes just as much as the number of characters.
I thought about posting this in suggestions, but it’d just rot there. Plus it will never happen. No way they drop a premium currency.
On the other hand, CP is what you get from buy clubs and so there’s a disincentive to hand out more.0 -
Ed_Dragonrider said:So here we are now, with War of the Realms store, and Daredevil... Before that was BW and BP in Helas store... Only Hawkeye and SMPP left. Im sure Endgame will bring them around too...
(Just to add to the table above)
As Ronin is coming soon, i think its a pretty safe bet to assume he will be in the next one (i would also guess along with Infinity Cap).
[I'll clean up the table later when I'm on the computer, maybe put it in a sparate post so i can edit along the way and we can keep better track.]
For this new store i think its great that it will be around for 10 days and that it has vaulted characters. If they did this for other future special legendary stores it would help the 4* tier a lot. Just rotate which characters get vaulted, and it might not take 2 years to get my Magik to 13 covers
That said, all these extra stores are great and all, now if we could only get extra cp earning opportunities so we could have something to actually spend in them. Support circuit being pulled for however long is another low blow in this area (for me at least).
EDIT: I've updated the table and made a separate post which you can find in the tips and guides section: https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/78135/list-of-legendary-stores4 -
Daredevil217 said:They should get rid of LT for good; make all LT prizes 25 CP, convert all our LT to CP and allow us to just spend in different places. This would help more people advance by concentrating pulls while offering us the same reward values. It makes too much sense to help combat dilution, because “splitting pulls” between CP/LT dilutes just as much as the number of characters.
I thought about posting this in suggestions, but it’d just rot there. Plus it will never happen. No way they drop a premium currency.3
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