AW Reloaded Recruiting/Chat 20/20

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Good thing they will compensate us for their screw ups --> viewtopic.php?f=13&t=8703

Kappei wrote:

CelciusDJ wrote:

Well that server outage near the end of fatal was pretty sucky, I really hope that doesn't become a regular thing

It really screwed up the overall standings. I managed to stay in top 50 only thanks to a last minute shield hop for 42 points, but there have been others in the alliance that lost up to 200 points because their shields dropped while the servers where down. The biggest problem is that this kind of server outages only affect a part of the player base, so for those that can still play it's like Christmas morning: free points with minimum risk of retaliation.

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Well that's something at least. It would be even better if I could somehow turn that into a black psylocke cover but I guess its better than them doing nothing about it

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Bump.

I'll try to put up events placements in here if I find some time.

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Recruiting once again to replace a player who has lost interest. See our expected scores on page 1

russreid91

Are you still recruiting?

The alliance I'm in French Army was doing fairly well but we seem to be cycling members trying to find the right mix of roster and commitment. It has caused us to miss out on the last few Alliance 3*. I'm not a commander in the alliance so I can't do much for recruiting.

As for my roster I have a lot of of 3* covers but not enough to make them playable for the most part unless they are buffed, however I have a lot of iso ready when those covers come in. I have maxed out all of the 2* that I use and ditched the rest. Hoping for some Lazy Thor covers from the latest event to help me move him up.

I'm a Daily player with over 106,000 in the TaT and 8,400 in Season 2. I fully expect to be over 115,000 for Tat and 10,000 for Season 2. I am consistently in the 700s for PvP events usually finishing top 25.

My ID is Russ91

Also where is the Alliance currently sitting for TaT and Season 2, at the moment my current alliance is sitting on the outside looking in at the covers.

Thank you,

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pm'd you. we are still looking for applicants!

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Dear Wolves, it has come the moment for hard choices. As you should already know, in the latest events, both PvP and PvE, we've arrived everytime to a photo-finish ending, hitting or missing top 100 always by a handful of positions. This cannot continue.

Many of you keep getting sub-500 scores in PvP, ignoring or probably not knowing the fact that a couple of weeks ago we set a 600 points treshold. This limit was chosen to be low enough to be reachable by anyone but high enough to allow us to be competitive. While I realize that the last few tourneys have been hard - VERY hard actually - not being able to reach 600, sometimes not even reaching 300, may be considered not even trying.

I know that this game isn't your life and that problems may come at any minute, but I think in these moments communications is fundamental. I've seen many of you getting constantly very low scores, without hearing back from you nor in the in-game chat neither in the forums. In this situation, having one of us away for personal reasons has costed us dearly in terms of alliance placement, while other alliances, with 19 people, manage to reach top 50 easily.

As I said, we cannot keep going on this way. Since I'd love to hear everyone's opinion on the matter, anyone not answering this thread in the next 48 hours will be kicked from the alliance. This may seem harsh, but there are persons that have been ghosts in our alliance, the only communication we've heard from them has been their application. I'll bump this thread regularly in the next two days, and spam the chat telling you to come to pay a visit, so please spread the voice.

Also, any unjustified sub-par score will be treated very seriously from now on. Unexpected events can happen that prevent you from playing, but I expect some kind of communication from you regarding the matter. It can simply be a "Hey Kappei, my a-hole boss has been on my back day and night in the last two days" or something like that. But, for tinykitty's sake, show me you care. The way Demiurge has set up the alliance system is very demanding, but this way we can work around it and have some maneuverability regarding absent members and whatever may stop you from playing.

And last, let's talk about burnout. If you've been let down by Demiurge decisions, if you don't like the game anymore, or simply if you're bored, SPEAK NOW. Don't let the alliance drag yourself along if you know, or even suspect, that you're going to stop playing soon. I can understand how you feel, but playing sloppily is not going to help you and isn't surely getting covers for the alliance. Once more, it may sound harsh, but at the moment this is what the alliances are for: moar coverzz! If you're not going to help, make your decision now, before we make it for you.

I really hope you can understand that I don't like writing these things, but it was time for it to be done. When (not IF, WHEN) you answer please specify your IGN, if it's different from the one on the forums. Feel free to propose, speak your mind out or simply insult me. I'll read everything and not judge.

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Hi all,

I do agree with others, when we say that this game is not our lives. But still, we are playing.

I guess we are not asking you to spend a day playing and not taking care of your personal life, but if we want to be in an alliance, we should try to communicate in case something happens. And lately, it seems that some are missing the will to play.

My only comment here is that I hope we see changes before the end of the cage, as I am not willing to see covers slipping from my fingers again. WP and the new storm were already a big deal. And we have left top 100 from S2, so in case we are not back on track, we can say goodbye to NF.

Orangecrush

I think that we need to start kicking people who consistently underperformed without communication. I don't really mind someone getting under 600 in PvP, but not scoring at all without saying anything is just being an albatross to everyone else. I also think we might do a better job at focusing on one thing or another at a time because the million different events at a time can take some serious time to be really competitive.

Tyronepowers

I completely agree with playing serious for the alliance, but also see the personal life issue items as well.

That said, I personally am starting to feel the burnout from the PvE. Case in point. I busted my **** on the season 2 simulator. Played every node every day down to low double digits and I was off on 1 day because I had to work a 14 hour shift and needed sleep. That one day dropped me from top 10 to below 80!!! When that happened I about lost it. I continued to work it but those PvE events are a grueling, tedious slog fest.

I love the PvP but you can't be competitive in one without the other. The only thing keeping me in the game and working it is this alliance and trying not to let down the team.

As a solution, what if we start a "B" team alliance "AW Reloadeded" People burning out could camp in that one and play and once they get the energy back and the top alliance has an opening they could come up? What do you guys think?

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While I think a general goal of 600 in PvP is sensible, I am a bit concerned about recent pushes towards more PvE play. I kind of enjoyed TaT, but the final experience was the usual: it just doesn't seem worth the effort. It needs a lot of grinding to get anywhere near a top spot, and even then getting three covers is very hard.

Case in point: in TaT I managed to be first in my bracket three times, including the day before the end. That involved a LOT of grinding. I also played a few times during breaks on the final day, including a rather extended lunch break. Yet still I didn't end up in the top 40, nor did the alliance end up top 100, despite many of you having similar points to me (which was 5 times the top progression reward score, probably to make up for impossible progression rewards in most other PvEs).

IMO all that effort is hardly worth the three covers, even if they would be safe. And they are not -- in particular not when there's new characters, since everyone seems to be trying.

I propose having a more casual attitude towards PvE.

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Hello all, Flnn here. I know that in the latter half of season 2 my average performance in PVP has dropped, and I'm sorry because I could have done better. Honestly, it has been harder and harder for me to do well in PVP because of facing very tough teams from the start, and it is killing my interest in the game. Furthermore, it seems PVE is becoming more and more of a grindfest recently, and although I still do well in PVE, it sucks that being absent in the last 2 hours basically means all those days grinding were wasted. I would like our commanders to know that I am considering quitting the game after season 2 ends, if nothing changes in season 3. However, I am still fully committed to doing my best to help the alliance as season 2 comes to a close.

Chrono_Tata

Hey guys. Yeah, I agree that the minimum requirement should be enforced for PvP. I've been really busy the past couple of days but I've pushed hard to get above 600 points on every PvP event. I think that's definitely doable. PvE is a completely different story though and people would shoot past your ranking if you even take a break for a few hours. In PvP at least you can shield to get more or less the rank you expect.

But yeah, I completely sympathise with people who feel burned out about the game. I'm feeling pretty **** that I busted my butt off playing PvE for the entire week then not get any decent award just because I was too busy to maintain my rank on the final day. In any case, it's not fair to other people in the alliance if someone is constantly getting low score and causing other members to miss out on awards.

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biomarvel wrote:

My only comment here is that I hope we see changes before the end of the cage, as I am not willing to see covers slipping from my fingers again. WP and the new storm were already a big deal. And we have left top 100 from S2, so in case we are not back on track, we can say goodbye to NF.

While Season II can be fixed even at a last second with a quick replacement, I agree that the Cage with its LazyThor covers is a juicy target. We'll see what we can do.

Orangecrush wrote:

I think that we need to start kicking people who consistently underperformed without communication.

This is one of the things we're aiming to do with this post.

Orangecrush wrote:

I also think we might do a better job at focusing on one thing or another at a time because the million different events at a time can take some serious time to be really competitive.

Tyronepowers wrote:

[...]I personally am starting to feel the burnout from the PvE. Case in point. I busted my **** on the season 2 simulator. Played every node every day down to low double digits and I was off on 1 day because I had to work a 14 hour shift and needed sleep. That one day dropped me from top 10 to below 80!!! When that happened I about lost it. I continued to work it but those PvE events are a grueling, tedious slog fest.

I love the PvP but you can't be competitive in one without the other. The only thing keeping me in the game and working it is this alliance and trying not to let down the team.

Jakal wrote:

I am a bit concerned about recent pushes towards more PvE play. I kind of enjoyed TaT, but the final experience was the usual: it just doesn't seem worth the effort. It needs a lot of grinding to get anywhere near a top spot, and even then getting three covers is very hard. [...] I propose having a more casual attitude towards PvE.

flnn1 wrote:

Furthermore, it seems PVE is becoming more and more of a grindfest recently, and although I still do well in PVE, it sucks that being absent in the last 2 hours basically means all those days grinding were wasted

Let's talk about PvE for a second. If Demiurge wants to keep the current system of continuously refreshing stacks - and the addition of timers only reinforces this idea - AND rubberbanding we can all agree that grinding PvE is only a waste of time. Only the last 1-2 hours of an event actually count, if you've played even casually during the course of the event. We've had Toppy_UK in our alliance that started the last PvE on the fourth day and gained 50k+ points in a single day thanks to rubberbanding. Because of this, if you live in Europe, you can aspire to get all three of the covers only if you wake up at 4-5 a.m., in time to grind the end of the event.

<Personal opinion, not speaking as a Commander>
What does this mean for us as an Alliance? That we CAN - and in my opinion we should - take PvE more casually. Rubberbanding will guarantee a good spot, maybe not good enough for three covers (but those are usually 20-40 per bracket), but good enough to guarantee a good alliance placement. Taking the top spots of a bracket at this point remains your concern, if you have the determination and the means to do it, but at least we'll be getting the Alliance rewards for sure
</Personal opinion>

Be wary that EVERY ALLIANCE is fighting with this kind of problem. It's not just us: even those on top, ESPECIALLY those on top are experiencing burnout, and weeklong grindy PvE events are only making things worse.

PvP is another matter entirely. The frustration here comes from a whole lot of other problems, some of which are already being addressed by Demiurge - i.e. the skip tax for retaliations.
The other problem is the attacks that make you lose hundreds of points while getting only a few after winning a match. Here I can only give you a couple of suggestions based on my experience that have helped me get to at least 600 in almost every one of the latest tournaments:

- develop your roster. This may sound stupid to even mention, but it's actually the basis of everything. OBW+Thor/Ares aren't going to stop the attacks, MMN+CStorm even less so. Even LazyThor isn't going to be the solution to all your problems, that's true, but every skip you get is one less incoming attack.
- start early. This is in contrast to all of the old reccomendations about starting as late as possible. Up to 600-700 points it's a lot easier now than it was back then and starting early gives you plenty of time to recover.
- pick your fights wisely. Avoid using boosts and use the iso you save to skip. It may take some skips, but you're going to find that nice 30-35 fight that you can win without boost. For my experience, 30+ good target, 25-29 may be worth it but you risk a retaliation war, 24 and less not worth the hassle.
- know your limits. If you're way above your usual amount of points, shield. If you've gone for an hour fighting, winning everything, shield immediately. FOR GOD'S SAKE, SHIELD!
Don't be greedy. My greed cost me a patch cover, because I thought I could pass the last 20 minutes of the tourney unshielded.

Of course you experience may vary, but these have helped me greatly in the last few months.

Tyronepowers wrote:

As a solution, what if we start a "B" team alliance "AW Reloadeded" People burning out could camp in that one and play and once they get the energy back and the top alliance has an opening they could come up? What do you guys think?

I've been thinking about this too and there are a couple of things that bother me about a setup like this. I'll talk with celcius about it and let you know.

Unknown

What's up guys! PVE is not an issue for me but I am having a hard time with PVP lately since my last PVP score was a disaster . Just letting you guys know that I am doing my best and hope I can still make the 600 mark going forward

Unknown

Hi, can u guys add me in game. Celsius recruited me. We''ve got exact same problems as you're facing. I could potentially bring some immediate replacements. How many places you got available...or thinking of clearing up at the moment? My biggest problem is the communication thing. Seriously, so bloody frustrating! Esp. When things are falling apart and decisions have to be made

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AlexBatman wrote:

Hi, can u guys add me in game. Celsius recruited me. We''ve got exact same problems as you're facing. I could potentially bring some immediate replacements. How many places you got available...or thinking of clearing up at the moment? My biggest problem is the communication thing. Seriously, so bloody frustrating! Esp. When things are falling apart and decisions have to be made

You'll have to wait for celcius.

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Ok, cool. I've joined in game so get him to add me as soon as possible. Interesting reading your posts. We' were currently 131 for season but a lot of ppl gone quiet. We basically had exact showdown talks and( unlike u guys it seems) scraped top100 for best there is...I mean we actually hit number 100!

However, doesn't look hopeful. I was thinking perhaps a merger could work? The top 5/6 of our all were effectively carrying bottom 10. I mean w'ed have to talk as I'm not sure of their opinions let alone yours but it's a suggestion?

Ps- on some points brought up here...I agree with pvp taking priority over pve and the 5/600 pts being minimum goals in pvp... Unless the issue is brought up as to why the time/pts can't be gained. Main issue I've had over past 2/3weeks with my seemingly mute all.

Also, Last pve esp. What a grind fest that was...and I thought we were looking at low scores with top reward at 45k!!! I think you can't force ppl to do these but can expect a minimum contribution if all wants covers. Top 200 in a pve isn't unachievable if everyone contributes. Again, these were just suggestions we were putting out there in old all. That seemed to fall on deaf ears

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AlexBatman wrote:

Ok, cool. I've joined in game so get him to add me as soon as possible. Interesting reading your posts. We' were currently 131 for season but a lot of ppl gone quiet. We basically had exact showdown talks and( unlike u guys it seems) scraped top100 for best there is...I mean we actually hit number 100!

However, doesn't look hopeful. I was thinking perhaps a merger could work? The top 5/6 of our all were effectively carrying bottom 10. I mean w'ed have to talk as I'm not sure of their opinions let alone yours but it's a suggestion?

Ps- on some points brought up here...I agree with pvp taking priority over pve and the 5/600 pts being minimum goals in pvp... Unless the issue is brought up as to why the time/pts can't be gained. Main issue I've had over past 2/3weeks with my seemingly mute all.

Also, Last pve esp. What a grind fest that was...and I thought we were looking at low scores with top reward at 45k!!! I think you can't force ppl to do these but can expect a minimum contribution if all wants covers. Top 200 in a pve isn't unachievable if everyone contributes. Again, these were just suggestions we were putting out there in old all. That seemed to fall on deaf ears

I accepted you in Alex! And we will keep in touch about replacements we may need so thanks for offering for some of your old active alliance members to join up. That makes things alot more simple if we need to make up numbers

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Finally able to log on.

Thanks!