Bolas the Undead [Fixed]

Brigby

Hi Everyone. This should no longer be occurring anymore, as the event has been ended.

Mburn7

Brigby said:

Hi Everyone. This should no longer be occurring anymore, as the event has been ended.

Can confirm the event ended.  Any word on what happened and why?

rafalele

My coalition went from 48 position whe Bolas the Eternal Zombie should have died to 52 when the event finishes.

I created a ticket to support long before there were an official answer here.

EvilDead

This is the fourth even since 2.9 that bugs have cost your customers rewards. I've created tickets regarding lost progression rewards only to have the missing rewards parts of tickets simply ignored and the focus has always been this should be fixed now, let us know if it's still happening. Sphinx's decree alone has ruined Players vs. Greg events.

I don't spend a lot of money on this game but I throw a few bucks here and there. Is this the customer service experience we should expect? It's getting ridiculous. Should I spend my money elsewhere?

techmarine5

Mburn7 said:

Sarahschmara said:

Gunmix25 said:

Sarahschmara said:

Question: is it considered cheating if we play extra charges? @Brigby

if you manually circumvented the event through some steps, yes, absolutely!

But since there are no steps to circumvent the event that allows you to play extra charges and you have no choice but to do so upon entering the event with absolutely no part on your behalf triggering this glitch... then no... it isn't cheating. not even by a long shot.

I disagree. One of the most compelling arguments I heard was that to be considered cheating one must knowingly act outside of the rules. In this case, we all know the rules state that the event ends at 0%. 

Besides, the legacy-in-standard exploit could easily be triggered by using assigned PWs in story mode between matches. It’s not intuitive to me that I shouldn’t play story mode with those PWs while waiting for my nodes to recharge. 

In this case, I’m willing to believe that people simply saw they had charges and continued to play. Innocent mistake. But everyone now aware that something has definitely gone wrong and is purposefully taking advantage of an error in the code.

Again, I think it’s right to give players the benefit of the doubt for isolated instances. But isn’t it also right to expect that follow the rules when one is made aware of them?

Where do we draw the line? Is it manually taking extra steps? Is it ignoring the rules? What do you think? 

*I’m not trying to start a fight rather perhaps we could have a respectful philosophical discussion? We all have a knee jerk reaction “I’m not a cheater.” And morality is a sliding scale—we clearly have different thresholds and I’m interested in exploring that in a nonjudgemental way.* Might as well kill some time while we wait for this infernal event to end. Currently -9% health. 

I'll go back to my argument from before.

As long as you aren't using any outside code or modifying the game code, you should be able to do what is allowed in the game without it being cheating.

Its like how players aim fly balls for the short porch in Right Field at Yankee Stadium (baseball, for those that don't know).  You can hit a ball that would be an out in any other ballpark, but its a home run there.

Its like how you hit lots of lobs on a sunny day in Tennis so that your opponent gets blinded by the sun when they look up, or hit low balls on a windy day so they get dust and clay blown in their eyes.

Its like purposely hitting a ball into a hazard in Golf because you get to drop on the other side of it and not bother taking the risk of laying up and hitting another shot over it.

Its like giving someone a hard bump in Basketball when they are making a cut through the lane to try and throw off their timing and stop them from getting the ball.

Are all of those things questionable things to do in their respective games?  Yes.
Are all of those things something that will not get you the respect of your peers?  Yes.
Are all of them valid strategies to win without technically breaking the rules, but by playing a little dirty?  Absolutely.

In an app, the code is the absolute arbiter of the law.  If the code allows it, can you really consider it illegal?  Just like how if the refs allow something in a game, it is a legal maneuver.

I would disagree. This is more like the us court system where the code(lower judges) will make rulings, but the supreme Court(the devs) get the final call, knowing that their call will stand for all future cases. The analogy breaks down after that, but so does yours. After all, there are penalties written into the rules for some of those, which means that they are by definition acceptable actions. The problem arises when the action is forbidden but there is no consequence. However, I agree that he devs should have stopped it sooner.